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Chevy Runs Deep · 05-03-2018, 09:40 AM

I've driven several 6th gens and Caddy ATS's and while the alpha platform is slightly lighter with faster steering response, it is not a sports car. It still feels solid and heavy, and has too many seats. It actually drives very similar to a 5th gen just with a lighter touch. Hell a Corvette is considered heavy for a sports car. So is an ATSV sedan a sports car too? Or a C63?

rontammy0 · 05-03-2018, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chevy Runs Deep

I've driven several 6th gens and Caddy ATS's and while the alpha platform is slightly lighter with faster steering response, it is not a sports car. It still feels solid and heavy, and has too many seats. It actually drives very similar to a 5th gen just with a lighter touch. Hell a Corvette is considered heavy for a sports car. So is an ATSV sedan a sports car too? Or a C63?

A writer that auctually gets its....this is a good piece.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...ar-definition/

Chevy Runs Deep · 05-03-2018, 09:43 AM

Redefining a term? That sounds like marketing to euro buyers to me. How does 1 car redefine a segment?

rontammy0 · 05-03-2018, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Chevy Runs Deep

Redefining a term? That sounds like marketing to euro buyers to me. How does 1 car redefine a segment?

Guys were light up when the tried to call a 5th gen a sports car.....that was when we had just men and woman. Things just dont seem right.

DRKS1D3 · 05-03-2018, 09:57 AM

My definition...

Sports car (noun): A performance oriented vehicle that possesses nimble handling characteristics and contains no more than two seats.

Chevy Runs Deep · 05-03-2018, 10:00 AM

Haha I bought it because I specifically wanted an American muscle car. But even a Z/28 isn't a sports car. There's no third gender here

rontammy0 · 05-03-2018, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chevy Runs Deep

Haha I bought it because I specifically wanted an American muscle car. But even a Z/28 isn't a sports car. There's no third gender here

Lol....wait for it.....the Z/28 will be the next "sports car" . I remember reading an article where the writer even had the Challenger mixed in with the Camaro sports car...and the Mustang sports car.

PDXSSCE · 05-03-2018, 10:33 AM

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Modern muscle car is my terminology.

That would be the 5th generation Camaro, 5th generation Mustang & the Challenger.

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Originally Posted by Chevy Runs Deep

Redefining a term? That sounds like marketing to euro buyers to me. How does 1 car redefine a segment?

There are more cars than Camaro redefining the segment.

We all dislike change & we'll push back kicking & screaming, but the auto industry is evolving & segments are being redefined with or without us.

sherob · 05-03-2018, 10:48 AM

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That would be the 5th generation Camaro, 5th generation Mustang & the Challenger.

There are more cars than Camaro redefining the segment.

We all dislike change & we'll push back kicking & screaming, but the auto industry is evolving & segments are being redefined with or without us.

The UJM went thru this years ago, HD is going thru it now.

DRKS1D3 · 05-03-2018, 10:50 AM

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That would be the 5th generation Camaro, 5th generation Mustang & the Challenger.

So, you consider the 5th Gen Camaro to be a modern muscle car and the 6th Gen to be a sports car? Considering that the 6th Gen is simply an evolution of the 5th Gen, what qualifies it to be a sports car? Its lower weight?

PDXSSCE · 05-03-2018, 11:19 AM

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So, you consider the 5th Gen Camaro to be a modern muscle car and the 6th Gen to be a sports car? Considering that the 6th Gen is simply an evolution of the 5th Gen, what qualifies it to be a sports car? Its lower weight?

Yes, I believe the Camaro evolved from a modern muscle car in the 5th generation, to a modern sports car in the 6th generation.

Merriam-Webster:

Sports Car - a low small usually 2-passenger automobile designed for quick response, easy maneuverability, and high-speed driving.

Let me be clear, I'm not stating that it's white vs black. My point is that lines have been blurred & there's an evolution occurring in redefining segments. I'm confident the 7th generation Camaro & Mustang will move even deeper into sports car territory.

rontammy0 · 05-03-2018, 11:24 AM

Did we ever answer my original question? Would the 6th gen V6 sports car��... run with my modern muscle car 5th gen SS? Answer ....nope.

PDXSSCE · 05-03-2018, 11:36 AM

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Did we ever answer my original question? Would the 6th gen V6 sports car��... run with my modern muscle car 5th gen SS? Answer ....nope.

I wish a 5th generation SS & 6th generation V6 would simply meet at a track to settle it - with video evidence. Of course, with equally skilled & similar weight drivers.

Chevy Runs Deep · 05-03-2018, 11:51 AM

Maybe an autocross parking lot it may be competitive. otherwise it has no chance, sorry. Just because the term sports car sounds hip doesn't make the 6gen one. A Cayman, Miata, Z4 etc are sports cars. Hp has buying to do with it. A Guilia Quadrifoglio supposedly out handles most everything, still not a sports car and it weighs less than most 6gens

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05-03-2018, 09:43 AM	#185
Chevy Runs Deep Drives: 2015 BLK 1SS LS3 M6 NPP Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Atlanta Posts: 212	Redefining a term? That sounds like marketing to euro buyers to me. How does 1 car redefine a segment? __________________ 2015 BLK/BLK 1SS LS3 M6, NPP, NAV, Tint 2017 GMC Acadia 1983 Monte Carlo 5.3 LS Swap

05-03-2018, 09:57 AM	#187
DRKS1D3 Drives: '17 Corvette Grand Sport M7 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,748	My definition... Sports car (noun): A performance oriented vehicle that possesses nimble handling characteristics and contains no more than two seats. __________________ MY RIDE: 2017 CORVETTE GRAND SPORT--TRIPLE BLACK, 7 SPEED MANUAL, VARARAM TCR-7 INTAKE, BORLA CATLESS X-PIPE, CARBON FIBER STAGE 2 AERO, MGW SHORT-THROW SHIFTER SOLD2011 TRIPLE BLACK SS CONVERTIBLE--6 SPEED MANUAL, MANY MODS, 455 RWHP/435 RWTQ DAD'S RIDE: 2012 ZL1 #1866--BLACK, 6 SPEED MANUAL, EXPOSED CF HOOD, POLISHED WHEELS, SUNROOF, ROTO-FAB INTAKE "Silly Americans, taking from the rich and giving to the poor only works in fairy tales. Success is earned here!".

05-03-2018, 10:00 AM	#188
Chevy Runs Deep Drives: 2015 BLK 1SS LS3 M6 NPP Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Atlanta Posts: 212	Haha I bought it because I specifically wanted an American muscle car. But even a Z/28 isn't a sports car. There's no third gender here __________________ 2015 BLK/BLK 1SS LS3 M6, NPP, NAV, Tint 2017 GMC Acadia 1983 Monte Carlo 5.3 LS Swap

05-03-2018, 11:51 AM	#196
Chevy Runs Deep Drives: 2015 BLK 1SS LS3 M6 NPP Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Atlanta Posts: 212	Maybe an autocross parking lot it may be competitive. otherwise it has no chance, sorry. Just because the term sports car sounds hip doesn't make the 6gen one. A Cayman, Miata, Z4 etc are sports cars. Hp has buying to do with it. A Guilia Quadrifoglio supposedly out handles most everything, still not a sports car and it weighs less than most 6gens __________________ 2015 BLK/BLK 1SS LS3 M6, NPP, NAV, Tint 2017 GMC Acadia 1983 Monte Carlo 5.3 LS Swap

05-03-2018, 11:24 AM	#194
rontammy0 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 2SS/ RS INFERNO ORANGE L99 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Alliston Ontario Canada Posts: 9,057 View My Garage	Did we ever answer my original question? Would the 6th gen V6 sports car��... run with my modern muscle car 5th gen SS? Answer ....nope.