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K8811ss · 07-31-2021, 03:38 PM

So I just threw a rod through my oil pan and bent two lifters at the track not long ago. So now I'm looking at doing a full build for high boost. I'm just wondering if the block is OK, which it seems it is. If I should build the aluminum block or go with an iron block. A 6.0 or similar.

Omega · 07-31-2021, 03:46 PM

What are you goals?

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ttshovel · 07-31-2021, 04:02 PM

Iron 6.0 block and a set of rods/pistons will be enough. 365-370 cubes and send it

stevieturbo · 08-01-2021, 05:21 AM

I'd say you'd be incredibly lucky for the block to be ok after throwing a rod.

If you don't mind the weight, just go iron, although a well built LSA or LS3 based block would be fine depending on what's available these days

Bigdumogre · 08-01-2021, 08:43 AM

Damn you where at over 900 hp on stock bottom end?

IKILLEDSUPERMAN_ZL1 · 08-01-2021, 08:45 AM

Just curious what compression you are going with.

K8811ss · 08-04-2021, 05:43 PM

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What are you goals?

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Looking for at least 1500whp

K8811ss · 08-04-2021, 05:47 PM

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Damn you where at over 900 hp on stock bottom end?

It was at 900 on the dyno but was dialed back to 830 over concerns of the transmission and rear end. It was only at 700 on the pull that killed it.

ttshovel · 08-04-2021, 05:49 PM

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Looking for at least 1500whp

You need an aftermarket block and good parts an off the shelf twin kit isn't gonna do it. Budget about 25-30k for a reliable longblock alone

*SSE 4 2SS* · 08-05-2021, 10:25 PM

Have you peeked at this thread created over the years... It’s a sticky in the Forced induction V-8 area...

https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=311407

eLeSthree · 08-06-2021, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by K8811ss

Looking for at least 1500whp

I dont think stock sleeves would last long at that level.

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Originally Posted by ttshovel

You need an aftermarket block and good parts an off the shelf twin kit isn't gonna do it. Budget about 25-30k for a reliable longblock alone

I cant speak from personal experience, because I have never made that much power, but Thompson Motorsports sells their 1800hp rated Outlaw Dart shp pro or LSX shortblocks for about $10k. You can upgrade that to a longblock for another $5k -$7k or so, depending on heads/rockers.

https://www.thompsonmotorsports.net/...product_id=558

I got my 1300hp dart long block package from them for about $10-$11k.
They have guys making 1700whp on this "1300hp" setup with turbos.

It seems like it might be do-able for less than $25-30k, but then again, you have done it, and I haven't.

ttshovel · 08-06-2021, 09:30 AM

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I dont think stock sleeves would last long at that level.

I cant speak from personal experience, because I have never made that much power, but Thompson Motorsports sells their 1800hp rated Outlaw Dart shp pro or LSX shortblocks for about $10k. You can upgrade that to a longblock for another $5k -$7k or so, depending on heads/rockers.

https://www.thompsonmotorsports.net/...product_id=558

I got my 1300hp dart long block package from them for about $10-$11k.
They have guys making 1700whp on this "1300hp" setup with turbos.

It seems like it might be do-able for less than $25-30k, but then again, you have done it, and I haven't.

Where this thing wants to make power stock valvetrain stuff just doesn't cut it. Ive found that out the hard way. Factor in a set of shaft mounts, an intake/throttle body, a better set of springs than what comes on the heads originally, flexplate. That stuff really adds up.

K8811ss · 08-07-2021, 11:59 PM

[QUOTE=eLeSthree;11051008]I dont think stock sleeves would last long at that level.

I didn't plan on having anything stock on the motor. I just wasn't sure how long an aluminum block, even sleeved would would last at that power.

07-31-2021, 03:38 PM	#1
K8811ss Drives: RS/2SS white/black Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 26 View My Garage	Motor build for boost So I just threw a rod through my oil pan and bent two lifters at the track not long ago. So now I'm looking at doing a full build for high boost. I'm just wondering if the block is OK, which it seems it is. If I should build the aluminum block or go with an iron block. A 6.0 or similar. __________________ UPP 58mm TT, 127lb per hr. Injectors, e85 flex fuel w/ duel Areomotive fuel pumps, TSP stage 3 blower cam 900+hp 9.5psi

07-31-2021, 04:02 PM	#3
ttshovel Drives: 12 camaro ss, 72 chevelle, 91camaro Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: findlay,oh Posts: 2,069	Iron 6.0 block and a set of rods/pistons will be enough. 365-370 cubes and send it __________________ 12 camaro ss 427lsx, th400, f310 heads, crower shaft mounts, gpi specd solid roller, shearerfab 2k hp a/w, twin bullseye 88mm turbos, hughes pro ssx bolt together converter, holley dominator, 8.50 cert, backhalf, Ford 9", 33x17x16 tires, c16 fuel

08-01-2021, 08:43 AM	#5
Bigdumogre Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: New York Posts: 1,434	Damn you where at over 900 hp on stock bottom end? __________________ 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS - CSP Custom Cam 232/240 .615/.615 113 +3, Texas speed CNC heads, FTI billet triple disc converter, K&N cai, Katech ported TB, GPI Ported/rod modded manifold, Texas speed 1 7/8 headers, HFC, Flowmaster 2 chambers with x pipe, Mishimoto CC, MSD wires, Roto fab washer relocation, tru cool 40k trans cooler, apex scoop, Pedders extreme coil overs and much more!!

08-01-2021, 08:45 AM	#6
IKILLEDSUPERMAN_ZL1 Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Wichita,KS Posts: 603	Just curious what compression you are going with. __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS, 6.0 iron block forged bottom end, Dart heads, BTR intake, Huron twin turbo kit, Summit stage 3 twin turbo cam, Circle D stage 4 6L90, 3800 FTI converter. BMR suspension, Viking coil overs, Fore triple pump fuel system.

08-05-2021, 10:25 PM	#10
SSE 4 2SS Boosted Moderator Drives: Bone Stock LS3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Marion Tx Posts: 15,603	Have you peeked at this thread created over the years... It’s a sticky in the Forced induction V-8 area... https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=311407 __________________ If the car feels like it is on rails, you are probably driving too slow. -Ross Bentley Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you. “If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough.” Mario Andretti If you can turn, you ain't going fast enough...

07-31-2021, 03:46 PM	#2
Omega Drives: G8 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 251	What are you goals? Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk

08-01-2021, 05:21 AM	#4
stevieturbo Drives: it changes Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 1,126	I'd say you'd be incredibly lucky for the block to be ok after throwing a rod. If you don't mind the weight, just go iron, although a well built LSA or LS3 based block would be fine depending on what's available these days

08-07-2021, 11:59 PM	#13
K8811ss Drives: RS/2SS white/black Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 26 View My Garage	[QUOTE=eLeSthree;11051008]I dont think stock sleeves would last long at that level. I didn't plan on having anything stock on the motor. I just wasn't sure how long an aluminum block, even sleeved would would last at that power. __________________ UPP 58mm TT, 127lb per hr. Injectors, e85 flex fuel w/ duel Areomotive fuel pumps, TSP stage 3 blower cam 900+hp 9.5psi