beckyd need clarification: NOV ZL1 ALLOCATION

[GoldenBear]

Originally Posted by paul2010

There are 2500 chevrolet dealers.

At the end of 2010 there were just under 3,100 Chevrolet dealers in the U.S.

Originally Posted by paul2010

Take less then half of them out and add up the amount of allocations. You will end up with 1500 as this comes from a very reliable source.

There was a lot of hand waving with the above statement -- take less than half and add up the allocations? What allocation numbers did you use to arrive at 1,500?

The 1,500 number could, in fact, be correct, but you have provided no reasonable basis to support it, other than stating that it comes from a very reliable source, which we have no way of verifying.

[JoeP@TeamBeckyD]

A dealer can order as many ZL1's as they want to. They will only be able to "place" as many as their guide #. Ordering and placing are 2 very different things. An order is not a commitment to produce a car. "Placing" the order will move it into the system, and then it will get built. All of the other orders will sit.

Dealer gets a guide # of 7 and takes orders for 10 ZL1's. There's going to be 3 very unhappy people. The orders can be submitted now, but won't go anywhere until the allocation is available to the dealer to "Place" it.

Hope that helps.

[Shurenuff]

Originally Posted by IROCanSS

First two ordered get cars... unless the dealer feels #3 is higher priority customer.

Dealers can be VERY VERY shady. When I ordered mine, I watched EVERYTHING he did. I know I was #12, I know what status the other 11 before me were at, I knew where they stood on allocations... all before I gave him a dime. My order went EXACTLY as he said it would. BUT there can be some real scum sucker desler's out there.

If you got one... but say your number one and I go in and say hey dealer owner... I'll give you $20,000 over sticker for two ZL1s... what would he do??? The ethical dealer would say I'm sorry, they are sold. The scum would take the money, put them in as 1 and 2 and you'd be SOL.

Hopefully none stoop to that level but it could and has happened!

Quick question in regards to when allocations get picked up. Let's just say that there is no shady business like you describe. My dealer has 2 allocations for the model year per GM. Do you know what the determining factor is as far as when those are picked up in relation to all the orders submitted across the country? Is it a first come, first serve system based off of the order number or is it dependant on the size of the dealer and volume they do (or some other factor)?

Of course, if a customer changes his/her order at certain phases of the process, that would move them more to the back of the line. I'm just trying to understand how GM determines the order in which allocations are picked up.

BTW, my order number just changed to 1102, whatever that means

[IOMZL1]

1000 Order On Hold at Dealership
1100 Order Placed at Dealership
1101 Order Entered into System
1102 Order Entered via Web
2000 Order Accepted by Chevrolet
2001 Order Generated to Dealer
2005 Order Replaced with GM Prospec Order
2030 Order Edited by Chevrolet
2050 Order Changed
2500 Order Preferenced (or "Picked Up" or "Imaged"), Sent to Production
3000 Order Accepted by Production Control
3100 Order Available to Sequence (now becomes more stable)
3300 Order Selected and Scheduled for Production by Assembly Plant (Target Production Week usually available now)
3400 Order Broadcasted for Production (Internal Plant Order Produced)
3800 Vehicle Produced
4000 Vehicle Available to Ship
4104 Bailment Invoice Created
4B00 Bayed ("B", not 8)
4106 Bailment Released
4150 Vehicle Invoiced (Dealer Billed)
4200 Vehicle Shipped
4300 Intermediate Delivery
4V03 Estimated Delivery Date
4800 Rail Ramp Unload
5000 Vehicle Delivered to Dealer
6000 Vehicle Delivered to Customer
9000 Order Cancelled

[afirehawk1]

mine is also status 1102. Order entered via web.

[toilets]

what is the link to check your order?

[afirehawk1]

GMConnects.com

[IROCanSS]

Shu... I have no clue how GM determines when the get "picked up". Sorry.

[IROCanSS]

IOM... I have posted that numerous times in several threads... It seems to help a lot! 2000 is the golden number... well in the beginning. That means you were "picked up" and are on your way... Could be november.... could be June tho when you see this number.

[Shurenuff]

Originally Posted by IROCanSS

IOM... I have posted that numerous times in several threads... It seems to help a lot! 2000 is the golden number... well in the beginning. That means you were "picked up" and are on your way... Could be november.... could be June tho when you see this number.

and once the order is preferenced (2500) you are locked in to your order. See, I'm learning

[IOMZL1]

Originally Posted by IROCanSS

IOM... I have posted that numerous times in several threads... It seems to help a lot! 2000 is the golden number... well in the beginning. That means you were "picked up" and are on your way... Could be november.... could be June tho when you see this number.

Agreed…. If you don’t have 2000, you don’t have a car. Helps explain the confusion a little. There can be 1,000,000 ZL1 orders with a status of 1000, 1100, 1101, 1102 – but only (less than 3000 2012) orders will go to status 2000 or higher.

[OldScoolCamaro]

Originally Posted by MY68RS

VS:

"OCT. 24 - Allocation number... This will be the number of ZL1s the dealer can order. It does NOT mean they can order that many right away. They are alloted to the dealer. The allotment cycle used to run Thursday to Thursday (check for updates Friday morning). So the next allocation cycle is October 6th-13th... a dealer is alloted so many orders that cycle. They get ther allocation cycle a month at a time (October) So lets say they get 4 allocated for October... and there are 4 cycles (weeks) in October... it could be 4-0-0-0 or 0-0-0-4 or 1-1-1-1 or 2-0-2-0... and so on. Get it? They will only know 1 month at a time."

My Questions still.
"It does NOT mean they can order that many right away."
Truth or false?

"So the next allocation cycle is October 6th-13th... a dealer is alloted so many orders that cycle."
Truth or False?

Is this the mystery why some dealers can't order now even though they state they have been allocated 5 zl1's?

Does it mean just because a dealer has allocation they STILL cannot at this time submit a successful order until a later date?
Do you feel because of this statement "It does NOT mean they can order that many right away." is why Me and 10 others are now in limbo even though we have been promised a allocation spot?

Originally Posted by Shurenuff

Quick question in regards to when allocations get picked up. Let's just say that there is no shady business like you describe. My dealer has 2 allocations for the model year per GM. Do you know what the determining factor is as far as when those are picked up in relation to all the orders submitted across the country? Is it a first come, first serve system based off of the order number or is it dependant on the size of the dealer and volume they do (or some other factor)?

Of course, if a customer changes his/her order at certain phases of the process, that would move them more to the back of the line. I'm just trying to understand how GM determines the order in which allocations are picked up.

BTW, my order number just changed to 1102, whatever that means

Shure, see both other posts I included for some answers!

Originally Posted by IOMZL1

1000 Order On Hold at Dealership
1100 Order Placed at Dealership
1101 Order Entered into System
1102 Order Entered via Web
2000 Order Accepted by Chevrolet
2001 Order Generated to Dealer
2005 Order Replaced with GM Prospec Order
2030 Order Edited by Chevrolet
2050 Order Changed
2500 Order Preferenced (or "Picked Up" or "Imaged"), Sent to Production
3000 Order Accepted by Production Control
3100 Order Available to Sequence (now becomes more stable)
3300 Order Selected and Scheduled for Production by Assembly Plant (Target Production Week usually available now)
3400 Order Broadcasted for Production (Internal Plant Order Produced)
3800 Vehicle Produced
4000 Vehicle Available to Ship
4104 Bailment Invoice Created
4B00 Bayed ("B", not 8)
4106 Bailment Released
4150 Vehicle Invoiced (Dealer Billed)
4200 Vehicle Shipped
4300 Intermediate Delivery
4V03 Estimated Delivery Date
4800 Rail Ramp Unload
5000 Vehicle Delivered to Dealer
6000 Vehicle Delivered to Customer
9000 Order Cancelled

[1BADZL1]

Originally Posted by BeckyD@RodgersChevrolet

A dealer can order as many ZL1's as they want to. They will only be able to "place" as many as their guide #. Ordering and placing are 2 very different things. An order is not a commitment to produce a car. "Placing" the order will move it into the system, and then it will get built. All of the other orders will sit.

Dealer gets a guide # of 7 and takes orders for 10 ZL1's. There's going to be 3 very unhappy people. The orders can be submitted now, but won't go anywhere until the allocation is available to the dealer to "Place" it.

Hope that helps.

BINGO.
My Inventory Manager Broke it down this way. He did not like me at first, but we are good now. This stuff is really more complicated than all the information given, and even though I will get the first one and only ZL1 out of my dealers FIRST cycle, I am starting to understand a bit better. Still a big learning curve! Thanks BeckyD!

[toilets]

here is what GMconnects says about mine. what the heck does that mean?

(CT000) Vehicle has been entered into the system and will be updated the following business day in most cases.

I dont see a CT000 code