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Laz · 03-16-2011, 03:09 PM

Just bought the 2011 SS/RS; while, this part is not on my car, not even the people at the dealer ship could tell me what it is so I can shop for it. Obviously its something for stability or support or control but they called a "Stater Bar" but I can't find anything on google for it. All info is greatly appreciated!

Cincy10SSRS · 03-16-2011, 03:15 PM

It's a strut tower brace; lots of performance oriented cars have them.

S-eatin-grin · 03-16-2011, 03:16 PM

It's a strut brace and unless you have a convertible...you don't really need it. You would get more bang for your buck elsewhere regarding suspension/chasis modifications.

Laz · 03-17-2011, 02:48 PM

Sweet! Thanks for the info and advise. But one question though why would only the convertible need it?

CC Performance · 03-17-2011, 02:58 PM

body flex without the roof is my guess... STB's are big on front wheel drive cars, but they have been being used on more and more cars like these now. As to their effectiveness on a solid roof car you get 50-50 of people saying yea or nay....

RiCorvette · 03-17-2011, 03:01 PM

It's a place to put all your trophies for display when you have your hood up at a car show

Laz · 03-17-2011, 03:28 PM

@ Ricamaro - LoL then I must get it!

@ CC Performance - Thanks for the info. Learned something new!

CC Performance · 03-17-2011, 03:46 PM

They are handy for leaning on as well, while your looking over the engine.

SilverIceman · 03-17-2011, 04:05 PM

And they look cool.

hypurone · 03-18-2011, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by S-eatin-grin

It's a strut brace and unless you have a convertible...you don't really need it.

Watch the video on this page. It should change your point of view. Hell I could feel it the day I bought the car!

http://www.pfadtracing.com/catalog/p...roducts_id/189

CC Performance · 03-18-2011, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by hypurone

Watch the video on this page. It should change your point of view. Hell I could feel it the day I bought the car!

http://www.pfadtracing.com/catalog/p...roducts_id/189

3mm? I guarantee the rest of the car flexes at least that much as well.
Stiffening the chassis you can feel yes but does it make a difference in the actual day to day driving of the car? Do you over-steer less now?
What is the actual difference... not just the fact it felt stiffer... can you really corner better? I'd like to see some real world results of people drifting off a corner and it being corrected from stopping 3mm of flex.
Not saying it doesn't help just want to see real world data on it.
There are so many things involved with the handling of the car. PS fade from hot fluid, tires, shocks.. etc

hypurone · 03-18-2011, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Performance

3mm? I guarantee the rest of the car flexes at least that much as well.
Stiffening the chassis you can feel yes but does it make a difference in the actual day to day driving of the car? Do you over-steer less now?
What is the actual difference... not just the fact it felt stiffer... can you really corner better? I'd like to see some real world results of people drifting off a corner and it being corrected from stopping 3mm of flex.
Not saying it doesn't help just want to see real world data on it.
There are so many things involved with the handling of the car. PS fade from hot fluid, tires, shocks.. etc

I think you have lost sight of the "real world".... It is ALL about "feel" out here. Not whether I can shave a tenth off a lap or corner at max G. Spend some time on some shitty roads with uneven surfaces, bad transitions and overall poor surface conditions and you want the car to track and respond as best it can through it all.... I have owned several cars that I have added a STB to. Each and every time it has improved the feel and control of the car. That is all the data I need...

4xchamp · 03-20-2011, 02:27 PM

Nuts !
That's my pull up bar ! Who owns that Camaro !!

Capthowdy · 03-20-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

Just bought the 2011 SS/RS; while, this part is not on my car, not even the people at the dealer ship could tell me what it is so I can shop for it. Obviously its something for stability or support or control but they called a "Stater Bar" but I can't find anything on google for it. All info is greatly appreciated!

03-16-2011, 03:09 PM	#1
Laz Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 6 View My Garage	What is this bar over the engine? Just bought the 2011 SS/RS; while, this part is not on my car, not even the people at the dealer ship could tell me what it is so I can shop for it. Obviously its something for stability or support or control but they called a "Stater Bar" but I can't find anything on google for it. All info is greatly appreciated! Attached Images

03-17-2011, 04:05 PM	#9
SilverIceman Drives: Camaro SS SIM Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 971 View My Garage	And they look cool. __________________ MYBADSS

03-20-2011, 02:27 PM	#13
4xchamp MURC 666 Drives: 69 Pace Car 68 Camaro Restomod 81 Z Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New England , U.S.A. Posts: 480	Nuts ! That's my pull up bar ! Who owns that Camaro !! __________________ Guys hoarding their Camaros are depriving some youngster the opportunity to restore it 25 years from now . Drive it like you stole it , let the next guy baby it !

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03-16-2011, 03:15 PM	#2
Cincy10SSRS Drives: 2010 2SS RS M6 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cincinnati area Posts: 1,522	It's a strut tower brace; lots of performance oriented cars have them.

03-16-2011, 03:16 PM	#3
S-eatin-grin Drives: 2013 2SS/RS AGM Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: WV Posts: 1,170 View My Garage	It's a strut brace and unless you have a convertible...you don't really need it. You would get more bang for your buck elsewhere regarding suspension/chasis modifications.

03-17-2011, 02:48 PM	#4
Laz Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 6 View My Garage	Sweet! Thanks for the info and advise. But one question though why would only the convertible need it?

03-17-2011, 02:58 PM	#5
CC Performance Account Suspended Drives: 99 Camaro SS, 79 z28, 70 GTX Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ST Helens, OR Posts: 1,759	body flex without the roof is my guess... STB's are big on front wheel drive cars, but they have been being used on more and more cars like these now. As to their effectiveness on a solid roof car you get 50-50 of people saying yea or nay....

03-17-2011, 03:01 PM	#6
RiCorvette Drives: 2017 Corvette Grand Sport 3LT Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Center of the known Universe Posts: 863	It's a place to put all your trophies for display when you have your hood up at a car show

03-17-2011, 03:28 PM	#7
Laz Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 6 View My Garage	@ Ricamaro - LoL then I must get it! @ CC Performance - Thanks for the info. Learned something new!

03-17-2011, 03:46 PM	#8
CC Performance Account Suspended Drives: 99 Camaro SS, 79 z28, 70 GTX Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ST Helens, OR Posts: 1,759	They are handy for leaning on as well, while your looking over the engine.