12-03-2018, 04:33 PM | #1 |
First HP Driving class
Some footage of my first HP driving class with Apex driving school at Motorsports ranch in Cresson TX (running clockwise on the 1.7 course). This was session #4. Hell of alot of fun. Long way to go to understand the correct racing lines.
Lap 5 was best of day. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-B...6bP5fjWJLPEKRr |
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12-04-2018, 07:04 AM | #2 |
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What I think you need to do is learn to imagine the path the car will need to take through the entire corner (or through a sequence of closely-spaced corners), not just what it takes to steer it over toward the inside curbing when the road is about to bend out of straight. This is something that very few people ever pick up from their street driving, as there's normally so much margin of grip remaining at street speeds that almost any line can be made to work - and it doesn't much matter "how well" it works as long as it works at all.
Learn how to think where you want the car to be, and where you want it pointed, further down the track than what normal street driving tends to teach you is "far enough ahead" (it isn't, or at least it won't be as you get faster). Actually, this is something that you can still practice in your street driving, subject to the limitations of lane width rather than total pavement width. Nobody teaches that in driver ed, either. Put "squeezing into the throttle" into your street driving, too. When it's second-nature to use the throttle that way, you'll be far less likely to use too much too quickly on the track. Or in the wet anywhere. I also thought it poor-ish etiquette on the part of the driver of the blue car (at about 2:50) to move back on line that close to you in an instructed novice session (advanced or experienced intermediate run groups, sure, have at it). If he was that concerned about not being able to make the corner from a slightly off line entry after passing you he should have just postponed his pass. Something that you can take away from his driving (I'm assuming that he was also a novice) is that he gave up an opportunity to feel what it might take to be off line through at least the early part of a corner. Norm
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12-04-2018, 07:24 AM | #3 |
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FWIW, it took several times to see that driver give you a point-by . . . a barely visible hand-only out the window barely above the mirror at 11:00. Kind of a "how not to give a point-by".
Norm
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Thank you for the feedback Norm.
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Norm full disclosure - I'm not an instructor, just an ordinary guy who happens to have had a corner-carving approach to driving for a rather long time
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12-22-2018, 11:34 PM | #7 |
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I was last at Cresson in March running the opposite direction in 3.1 config so a bit apple and oranges. FFWD the video to 1:35 to get to the 1.7 part of the track.
The main differences I saw were corners Tombstone and Big Bend. Assuming the direction is not a big factor, you can do 75+ through Big Bend and 70+ through Tombstone. I have done the track twice and my times weren't great, so there is even more headroom. The usual stuff: use all of the track, unwind your wheel on exit more. My friend's lap in a Fiesta no less in same direction on the 1.7.
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01-28-2019, 11:58 PM | #9 |
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cmack are you registered for 23-24 Mar?
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02-04-2019, 09:40 PM | #10 |
Geoff , no for 23/24. I am pretty sure I will be doing the Apex school for 03/02
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02-04-2019, 10:18 PM | #11 |
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Not familiar with apex school, need to look them up. I’ve enjoyed DE, especially with the 3.1
Hope to see you at a track soon!
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02-06-2019, 02:31 PM | #12 |
If you are out to Cresson please let me know. I am pretty close and can stop by just to watch and say hi.
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02-07-2019, 02:51 PM | #13 |
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PM sent
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