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Rami ZL1 · 11-19-2018, 02:03 AM

After installing some new mods including an ice box in the trunk, the garage messed up with the methanol kit.
As a result on high RPM of 3th gear the methanol injection started going on & off.
They worked on the wiring and nozzle then I took it to the tuner and this issue was fixed.
tried multiple runs but as I go into 4th gear for a second or 2 the methanol goes completely off and comes back after a few minutes or switch the car off and on again.
The garage checked the wiring and told me it is done correctly.
Any idea what can be the reason?

Rob10CamaroSS · 11-19-2018, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rami ZL1

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As a result on high RPM of 3th gear the methanol injection started going on & off.
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tried multiple runs but as I go into 4th gear for a second or 2 the methanol goes completely off and comes back after a few minutes or switch the car off and on again.

Are you using a Boost Controller ? and are you saying the car shuts off ?

Is it set for MAF = Volts or Boost = PSI and what are your settings ?
In either case the wiring is pretty basic; a couple of wires for the pump, a couple of wires for the Fluid Level Switch, and a couple of wires for the Controller, ( + a wire going to the MAF).

I would start by looking at them all and making sure there's no issues there. As well as double checking the obvious; is the Nozzle mounted Higher than the Tank and is the Pump mounted lower than the Tank.

Good Luck

Rami ZL1 · 11-19-2018, 04:32 AM

Nope, only methanol goes off not the car
Being set to MAP or MAF that I need to check.
wiring was checked
Nozzle above tank
Pump below
Luckily the garage has a spare Alky methanol kit so they will start replacing the pump, test, control, test and see if the problem is in the kit itself.

Rob10CamaroSS · 11-20-2018, 06:07 AM

Hope they get it figured out for you

Rami ZL1 · 11-21-2018, 10:59 PM

And finally we found out the issue.
It is completely not related to the methanol kit it self.
The S/C was over heating reaching 70'c which makes the valve close and as a result power drop/RPM drop/Methanol goes off.
Filled my ice box with cold water and ice then things went fine.
Should change my spark plugs today and test my ZL1 in the roll race tomorrow.

Rami ZL1 · 12-02-2018, 01:51 AM

Latest update...
Me and the tuner assumed that was she issue as the reading on his laptop showed S/C temp was high.
I tested the car and same issue was still there yet now it is sometimes on 3rd and sometimes on 4th gear.
Mechanically everything is correct so we are assuming it is (Mehtanol kit controller or pump)
I'll direct test the pump today to know which is faulty.

Rami ZL1 · 01-14-2019, 12:54 AM

End of story it was 2 things causing this issue...
1- The methanol kit controller.
2- Tuning as the S/C valve was releasing pressure at 16.5 PSI. increased the limit to 18 to find out that my boost was 17.5
Finally the vehicle is back to normal.

Vegas Bound · 01-14-2019, 10:02 AM

Now it's time to swap that upper pulley for a 2.5.

EvilZL1 · 01-16-2019, 11:46 AM

I've heard about better controllers being the answer

11-19-2018, 02:03 AM	#1
Rami ZL1 Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Manual Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Qatar Posts: 12 View My Garage	Alky Methanol kit goes off on 4th gear After installing some new mods including an ice box in the trunk, the garage messed up with the methanol kit. As a result on high RPM of 3th gear the methanol injection started going on & off. They worked on the wiring and nozzle then I took it to the tuner and this issue was fixed. tried multiple runs but as I go into 4th gear for a second or 2 the methanol goes completely off and comes back after a few minutes or switch the car off and on again. The garage checked the wiring and told me it is done correctly. Any idea what can be the reason? __________________ Manual 2013 ZL1 - Kooks LTH, JLT CAI, Nick Williams 102mm TB with 107mm spacer, Weapon X S/C spacer, 10" Crank pulley, 2.7" supercharger pulley, ZR1 cam shaft, Alky methanol kit, AFCO heat exchanger. 725 WHP - 730 TQ Boost 16.5 PSI

11-19-2018, 04:32 AM	#3
Rami ZL1 Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Manual Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Qatar Posts: 12 View My Garage	Nope, only methanol goes off not the car Being set to MAP or MAF that I need to check. wiring was checked Nozzle above tank Pump below Luckily the garage has a spare Alky methanol kit so they will start replacing the pump, test, control, test and see if the problem is in the kit itself. __________________ Manual 2013 ZL1 - Kooks LTH, JLT CAI, Nick Williams 102mm TB with 107mm spacer, Weapon X S/C spacer, 10" Crank pulley, 2.7" supercharger pulley, ZR1 cam shaft, Alky methanol kit, AFCO heat exchanger. 725 WHP - 730 TQ Boost 16.5 PSI

11-21-2018, 10:59 PM	#5
Rami ZL1 Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Manual Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Qatar Posts: 12 View My Garage	And finally we found out the issue. It is completely not related to the methanol kit it self. The S/C was over heating reaching 70'c which makes the valve close and as a result power drop/RPM drop/Methanol goes off. Filled my ice box with cold water and ice then things went fine. Should change my spark plugs today and test my ZL1 in the roll race tomorrow. __________________ Manual 2013 ZL1 - Kooks LTH, JLT CAI, Nick Williams 102mm TB with 107mm spacer, Weapon X S/C spacer, 10" Crank pulley, 2.7" supercharger pulley, ZR1 cam shaft, Alky methanol kit, AFCO heat exchanger. 725 WHP - 730 TQ Boost 16.5 PSI

12-02-2018, 01:51 AM	#6
Rami ZL1 Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Manual Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Qatar Posts: 12 View My Garage	Latest update... Me and the tuner assumed that was she issue as the reading on his laptop showed S/C temp was high. I tested the car and same issue was still there yet now it is sometimes on 3rd and sometimes on 4th gear. Mechanically everything is correct so we are assuming it is (Mehtanol kit controller or pump) I'll direct test the pump today to know which is faulty. __________________ Manual 2013 ZL1 - Kooks LTH, JLT CAI, Nick Williams 102mm TB with 107mm spacer, Weapon X S/C spacer, 10" Crank pulley, 2.7" supercharger pulley, ZR1 cam shaft, Alky methanol kit, AFCO heat exchanger. 725 WHP - 730 TQ Boost 16.5 PSI

01-14-2019, 12:54 AM	#7
Rami ZL1 Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Manual Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Qatar Posts: 12 View My Garage	End of story it was 2 things causing this issue... 1- The methanol kit controller. 2- Tuning as the S/C valve was releasing pressure at 16.5 PSI. increased the limit to 18 to find out that my boost was 17.5 Finally the vehicle is back to normal. __________________ Manual 2013 ZL1 - Kooks LTH, JLT CAI, Nick Williams 102mm TB with 107mm spacer, Weapon X S/C spacer, 10" Crank pulley, 2.7" supercharger pulley, ZR1 cam shaft, Alky methanol kit, AFCO heat exchanger. 725 WHP - 730 TQ Boost 16.5 PSI

11-20-2018, 06:07 AM	#4
Rob10CamaroSS Drives: 2012 ZL1 Redline Phase 4 Join Date: May 2017 Location: Selden, NY Posts: 202	Hope they get it figured out for you

01-14-2019, 10:02 AM	#8
Vegas Bound Account Suspended Drives: 2013 Sparkly Red One Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Hospitality State Posts: 2,558	Now it's time to swap that upper pulley for a 2.5.

01-16-2019, 11:46 AM	#9
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