Solution to rub marks & holes on '12 tops found - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

intensifi · 01-03-2015, 12:54 AM

NOTE: This discussion may also apply to '11 tops. Check the part numbers mentioned with your local top shop/dealer.

As some of you know I have been working to find the correct part numbers for the retrofit to take our tops to the current design where the tops seem to be working properly.

The rub marks and holes are primarily a function of the arms (or Push Rods in GM speak)

The 2nd design arm part numbers are:

22903705 (Convertible Top Push rod - Left - 2nd design)
22903706 (Convertible Top Push rod - Right - 2nd design)

If your car was built before 4/30/12 GM suggests the following Right part number be used instead:

22772213 (Convertible Top Push rod - Right - 1st design). Note: This applied to my car.

So on my last new top I had the following main parts installed.

22985764 Black Top - 2nd design
22772206 Bow
22772205 Bow
22936377 Bow
22903705 Left Arm/Push Rod - 2nd design
22772213 Right Arm/Push rod - 1st design
22840146 Pump

The pics are below. The top looks great!

Sorry for the lint, etc. The iPhone6+ camera catches everything.

The new design appears to be much better than the original. I have put it through about 50 cycles with no rub marks starting as of yet.

Note: My parts friend says he believes the 22772213 will be superseded by the newer 22903706 as inventory becomes depleted. Since this concerns me I have decided to buy a 22903706 (approx ~$230) and just keep it for if/when I ever need to have this top replaced as my warranty will be up soon.

I did learn something during this process that may be the crux of dealers not being too enthused regarding these extensive top updates. It took my dealer's very experienced top technician approximately 20 hours to rebuild my top from the parts. GM only credits them 8 hours for the job. Needless to say, I'm very happy with my dealer. Why GM doesn't ship this as a complete assembly ready to bolt in ???????

intensifi · 01-03-2015, 12:59 AM

more pics

angrykiller1 · 01-03-2015, 11:27 AM

that really does look pretty good. I wish you luck and it looks like you got a gem for a dealer. I found a good test is to ride a bumpy road with the top down. that's when it really eats if it's going to. I hope not. good luck

A.VEE.BEE · 01-03-2015, 11:33 AM

That looks good!

mdolandese · 01-03-2015, 11:38 AM

That top looks AWESOME!!! Lucky to have a dealer that took care of you that's for sure. Good Luck

classicrockr · 01-03-2015, 02:43 PM

But where are the top down pictures? My dealer has a top shop that did mine, but told me top & back windows can't be rolled down for a month. Service Rep told me last week that it would probably have to be adjusted after 30 days because he thinks its too tight. He said GM service told them 1 month also.

How long does the factory wait before putting new verts on the lot?

intensifi · 01-03-2015, 05:16 PM

Top down pics as requested.

EM1/SS · 01-04-2015, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicrockr

But where are the top down pictures? My dealer has a top shop that did mine, but told me top & back windows can't be rolled down for a month. Service Rep told me last week that it would probably have to be adjusted after 30 days because he thinks its too tight. He said GM service told them 1 month also.

How long does the factory wait before putting new verts on the lot?

The top shop that did mine said to put the top down on the drive home. It was little tight when I picked it up but it did loosen up the first month. I don't have any rub marks and it still looks great.

Baba · 01-05-2015, 06:57 AM

Outstanding. Thanks for taking the time to post the details and pics.

Good luck with your new top and please keep us posted as to any changes.

01-03-2015, 12:54 AM	#1
intensifi Drives: '12 2LT Convertible Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Belmont, California Posts: 1,701	Solution to rub marks & holes on '12 tops found NOTE: This discussion may also apply to '11 tops. Check the part numbers mentioned with your local top shop/dealer. As some of you know I have been working to find the correct part numbers for the retrofit to take our tops to the current design where the tops seem to be working properly. The rub marks and holes are primarily a function of the arms (or Push Rods in GM speak) The 2nd design arm part numbers are: 22903705 (Convertible Top Push rod - Left - 2nd design) 22903706 (Convertible Top Push rod - Right - 2nd design) If your car was built before 4/30/12 GM suggests the following Right part number be used instead: 22772213 (Convertible Top Push rod - Right - 1st design). Note: This applied to my car. So on my last new top I had the following main parts installed. 22985764 Black Top - 2nd design 22772206 Bow 22772205 Bow 22936377 Bow 22903705 Left Arm/Push Rod - 2nd design 22772213 Right Arm/Push rod - 1st design 22840146 Pump The pics are below. The top looks great! Sorry for the lint, etc. The iPhone6+ camera catches everything. The new design appears to be much better than the original. I have put it through about 50 cycles with no rub marks starting as of yet. Note: My parts friend says he believes the 22772213 will be superseded by the newer 22903706 as inventory becomes depleted. Since this concerns me I have decided to buy a 22903706 (approx ~$230) and just keep it for if/when I ever need to have this top replaced as my warranty will be up soon. I did learn something during this process that may be the crux of dealers not being too enthused regarding these extensive top updates. It took my dealer's very experienced top technician approximately 20 hours to rebuild my top from the parts. GM only credits them 8 hours for the job. Needless to say, I'm very happy with my dealer. Why GM doesn't ship this as a complete assembly ready to bolt in ??????? Attached Images __________________ Mods: GM Locking Gas Cap, RS License Plate Frame, SS Brembos, ZL1 FrontEnd, 14/15 Convertible Top Last edited by intensifi; 01-26-2015 at 11:37 PM.

01-03-2015, 12:59 AM	#2
intensifi Drives: '12 2LT Convertible Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Belmont, California Posts: 1,701	more pics Attached Images __________________ Mods: GM Locking Gas Cap, RS License Plate Frame, SS Brembos, ZL1 FrontEnd, 14/15 Convertible Top

01-03-2015, 11:33 AM	#4
A.VEE.BEE So Cold! Drives: Summit White 2015 2SS Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Carrollton, VA Posts: 1,154	That looks good! __________________

01-03-2015, 05:16 PM	#7
intensifi Drives: '12 2LT Convertible Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Belmont, California Posts: 1,701	Top down pics as requested. Attached Images __________________ Mods: GM Locking Gas Cap, RS License Plate Frame, SS Brembos, ZL1 FrontEnd, 14/15 Convertible Top

01-05-2015, 06:57 AM	#9
Baba Drives: 2011 Camaro 2LT RS Convertible Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USAREUR, CONUS/DOD-A, VA Posts: 1,745	Outstanding. Thanks for taking the time to post the details and pics. Good luck with your new top and please keep us posted as to any changes. __________________ 2011 Camaro 2LT RS Convertible Summit White Black Leather 3 Pedals Build Date: 06/27/2011 Purchased: 07/30/2011 Title Received: 08/15/2011 1984 Camaro (3rd Gen.): Traded: 1987 "Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss."

01-03-2015, 11:27 AM	#3
angrykiller1 Drives: 2011 2ss inferno orange convertible Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: baton rouge Posts: 136	that really does look pretty good. I wish you luck and it looks like you got a gem for a dealer. I found a good test is to ride a bumpy road with the top down. that's when it really eats if it's going to. I hope not. good luck

01-03-2015, 11:38 AM	#5
mdolandese Drives: 2013 ZL1 Victory Red Vert Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Wauconda, Il Posts: 315	That top looks AWESOME!!! Lucky to have a dealer that took care of you that's for sure. Good Luck

01-03-2015, 02:43 PM	#6
classicrockr Pills are for Pansies Drives: 2023 2SS Red Hot Vert Camaro Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Citrus Springs FL Posts: 1,296	But where are the top down pictures? My dealer has a top shop that did mine, but told me top & back windows can't be rolled down for a month. Service Rep told me last week that it would probably have to be adjusted after 30 days because he thinks its too tight. He said GM service told them 1 month also. How long does the factory wait before putting new verts on the lot?