2015 Mustang-FRPP Drag Mods and Times

[trademaster]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

You say this while boasting of an 11.77 run from a naturally asperated 5.0 with a tune and drag radials? An 11.93 run from a stock ZL1 seems unbelievable to you? It has been done by private owners (with video).

I need to learn to stop engaging in conversation with people like you. Where in my post did I boast about anything?

In case you need some review, here is the definition:

Talk with excessive pride and self-satisfaction about one's achievements, possessions, or abilities.

Sounds a lot like my post, huh?

Where did I say an 11.93 run from a stock ZL1 is unbelievable? Read my post again then ponder it for a while. Try to figure out what all those words mean together, rather than independently.

Here, I'll break it down for you even further:

GM does some 1/4 mile runs with and without drag radials. GM reports times for the car, says they are on stock tires. No big deal.

Ford does some 1/4 mile runs with and without skinnies up front. It isn't even a question of if they ran slicks in the rear or not, they say they did. Ford reports times without the skinnies up front. BLASPHEMY, THEY ARE LYING THEY HAD SKINNIES AND THERE IS NO WAY THE 12.56 WAS WITHOUT THEM!

So when Ford runs a car in two configurations and reports times, those times must absolutely be in the configuration that they did not reference. Why? Why is this true for Ford and not GM?

If you don't see how biased that is then I am wasting my time.

[Jason@JacFab]

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by trademaster

I need to learn to stop engaging in conversation with people like you. Where in my post did I boast about anything?

In case you need some review, here is the definition:

Talk with excessive pride and self-satisfaction about one's achievements, possessions, or abilities.

Sounds a lot like my post, huh?

Where did I say an 11.93 run from a stock ZL1 is unbelievable? Read my post again then ponder it for a while. Try to figure out what all those words mean together, rather than independently.

Here, I'll break it down for you even further:

GM does some 1/4 mile runs with and without drag radials. GM reports times for the car, says they are on stock tires. No big deal.

Ford does some 1/4 mile runs with and without skinnies up front. It isn't even a question of if they ran slicks in the rear or not, they say they did. Ford reports times without the skinnies up front. BLASPHEMY, THEY ARE LYING THEY HAD SKINNIES AND THERE IS NO WAY THE 12.56 WAS WITHOUT THEM!

So when Ford runs a car in two configurations and reports times, those times must absolutely be in the configuration that they did not reference. Why? Why is this true for Ford and not GM?

If you don't see how biased that is then I am wasting my time.

Take a look in the mirror pal. I didn't comment on the Ford runs one way or the other with the exception of the apparent need to beef up the rear. I posted Chevy's 2015 document stating the 11.93 run was made with all factory equipment in reply to a denier to which you replied.

Originally Posted by trademaster

it seems pretty silly to just accept GM saying that they didn't use drag radials for the ET they reported.

All your babbling to me about skinnies or no skinnies has nothing to do with anything I've said.

[trademaster]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

Take a look in the mirror pal. I didn't comment on the Ford runs one way or the other with the exception of the apparent need to beef up the rear. I posted Chevy's 2015 document stating the 11.93 run was made with all factory equipment in reply to a denier to which you replied.

You actually replied directly to me, quoting my post and putting in bold a fraction of a sentence which you took out of context. Nowhere in the post I replied to is there documentation.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by trademaster

You actually replied directly to me, quoting my post and putting in bold a fraction of a sentence which you took out of context. Nowhere in the post I replied to is there documentation.

Yes there is a PDF attached to #35 that you replied to. I quoted it as well.

I only replied "in bold" to the part of your post that had anything to do with what I said. Peace

[1QwikZ28]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

Yes there is a PDF attached to #35 that you replied to. I quoted it as well.

I only replied "in bold" to the part of your post that had anything to do with what I said. Peace

So, if the ZL1 runs 11s "stock", does that mean the GT500 is a low 11 second car or that the Hellcat is a high 10 second car?

[trademaster]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

I only replied "in bold" to the part of your post that had anything to do with what I said. Peace

Which is exactly how you took it out of context. I didn't say it is unbelievable that the ZL1 ran those times on stock tires, I pointed out how biased it is to assume that GM is telling the truth while simultaneously (see: and) assuming Ford is lying. Both companies ran their cars in two configurations, then reported times from the less modified configuration.

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by trademaster

I didn't say it is unbelievable that the ZL1 ran those times on stock tires, I pointed out how biased it is to assume that GM is telling the truth while simultaneously (see: and) assuming Ford is lying. Both companies ran their cars in two configurations, then reported times from the less modified configuration.

The document cited is an OFFICIAL GM document. On their stationery. On their website. If you have a problem with its bona fides, contact GM.

As for Ford, in this case, we're NOT assuming anything. We've simply caught them, on their own video, LYING! To YOU!

Period. End of story.

And YOU, if you're feeling slighted, can contact Jesse Kershaw and let HIM know. If you're NOT feeling slighted, see the previous paragragh...

Thanks for your input.

[TheReaper]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

The document cited is an OFFICIAL GM document. On their stationery. On their website. If you have a problem with its bona fides, contact GM.

As for Ford, in this case, we're NOT assuming anything. We've simply caught them, on their own video, LYING! To YOU!

Period. End of story.

And YOU, if you're feeling slighted, can contact Jesse Kershaw and let HIM know. If you're NOT feeling slighted, see the previous paragragh...

Thanks for your input.

Ford lies to me and GM lies to you and we both believe what our favorite manufacturer says.

[tooslow]

Originally Posted by TheReaper

Ford lies to me and GM lies to you and we both believe what our favorite manufacturer says.

Yep, that about sums up this thread.

LOWDOWN, you need to relax before you give yourself a heart attack.

[87GNX]

Originally Posted by tooslow

Yep, that about sums up this thread.

LOWDOWN, you need to relax before you give yourself a heart attack.

I like watching all his nonsense

[NASTY99Z28]

Regardless of the lies I feel bad for the mustang guys if they really do need to add those chassis parts. They've had years of the trouble free drag launches with the solid 8.8 and stock suspension. I wonder if its a flex issue that turns to wheel hop?

[LostPony]

LOWDOWN, C5's version of thePill. Or maybe he IS thePill in disguise!

Mind= BLOWN!!

[khell86]

Originally Posted by LostPony

LOWDOWN, C5's version of thePill. Or maybe he IS thePill in disguise!

Mind= BLOWN!!

The ultimate troll....

All along he's been a dodge fan!