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frenchsquared · 01-09-2017, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Welker2

The OP asked about a Camaro versus a Camaro ...

No he asked about Corvette vs Camaro

Welker2 · 01-09-2017, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by frenchsquared

No he asked about Corvette vs Camaro

Corrected ... thanks

lbls1 · 01-09-2017, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Camaro Dude

The chronological events is significant.

A mid-engine Corvette is beginning to make more sense.

It would even most likely void such title questions like this thread all together.

Yea....well to be honest both Camaro and Corvette have been close in performance during certain periods. Its just noteworthy to observe how much the Camaro has grown since 1993. One should also look at both the current base Corvette and the Camaro, and observe how close these two models are in performance.

I suppose once the Vette (or if) goes to mid-engine then the gap will widen in terms of overall performance. No one really knows the exact period that one can predict the change to a mid-engine platform.

MrChrisLS3 · 01-09-2017, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lbls1

Yea....well to be honest both Camaro and Corvette have been close in performance during certain periods. Its just noteworthy to observe how much the Camaro has grown since 1993. One should also look at both the current base Corvette and the Camaro, and observe how close these two models are in performance.

I suppose once the Vette (or if) goes to mid-engine then the gap will widen in terms of overall performance. No one really knows the exact period that one can predict the change to a mid-engine platform.

In terms of raw horsepower, yes there have been Camaros in the past that were very close and a couple that exceeded the Corvettes of the period. However, they were still apples and oranges comparisons.

Now, the 6th gen Camaro is truly as close to the Corvette as it has ever been in terms of overall performance. Given some of the numbers the 1LE is getting on tracks, the 6th gen Camaro seems to have stolen the title of "performance bargain" away from the Corvette. The ZL1 seems to be one heck of a car as well. The Alpha platform has really put the Camaro in whole new class.

The Corvette is always going to have some advantages just from it's design. Transverse spring suspension and lower center of gravity, combined with the inherent weight savings from the materials is always going to put the Corvette a step in front, model to model. Now, compare the ZL1 to the base Corvette? I guess it would really depend on the track and the driver.

Where the Corvette goes from here is a good question. It would be a huge roll of the dice for GM to change it's platform to a mid-engine elite supercar. With the probability that doing so would put the base model deep into six figures, will there be enough of a market to support it?

gringo · 01-09-2017, 02:25 PM

The Corvette and Camaro may be close in performance now, but once the new (LT5?) DOHC V8 is introduced, the performance gap will once again widen in favor of the Vette.

DRKS1D3 · 01-09-2017, 02:34 PM

1. Define the term "better".

2. Any answer to the OP's original question is purely subjective.

Camaro Dude · 01-09-2017, 10:32 PM

Sledge picks up like no other vette can.

'Nuff said.

Now excuse me while I go lollllll! @ Wut's betta m2 vs m4, thread in a BMW forum.

Dmpsix · 01-10-2017, 08:32 AM

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The only Vette I would look at is the ZR1. Maybe a Z06. Anything before that .....no thanks I find them to be ugly.. I like the look of the Camaro. . ..unless its one of the vettes i mentioned....Camaro all the way.

This right here.

If you're gonna get a C6 Vette, at the very least get a Z06 and do some things to that interior, because it's awful.

People act like interior doesn't matter, but it does... in the C6 Vette, interiors are absolute trash. The steering wheel comes off a 2005 Cobalt, the seats look like they were made in China and the dash looks like something off of an early 2000's Honda Civic.

Not trying to flame anyone, because the C7 is in a totally different league. But while the Camaro interior doesn't exactly scream German luxury car, it's still century's ahead in terms of quality vs the C6 vette.

Now like other's have said, if going fast and all around better performing vehicle is your priority, then yes... the C6 Vette is without question the better vehicle.

If you want all around ride quality, looks, feel, etc. then go with the Camaro. That's exactly why I chose mine.

lbls1 · 01-10-2017, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MrChrisLS3

In terms of raw horsepower, yes there have been Camaros in the past that were very close and a couple that exceeded the Corvettes of the period. However, they were still apples and oranges comparisons.

Now, the 6th gen Camaro is truly as close to the Corvette as it has ever been in terms of overall performance. Given some of the numbers the 1LE is getting on tracks, the 6th gen Camaro seems to have stolen the title of "performance bargain" away from the Corvette. The ZL1 seems to be one heck of a car as well. The Alpha platform has really put the Camaro in whole new class.

The Corvette is always going to have some advantages just from it's design. Transverse spring suspension and lower center of gravity, combined with the inherent weight savings from the materials is always going to put the Corvette a step in front, model to model. Now, compare the ZL1 to the base Corvette? I guess it would really depend on the track and the driver.

Where the Corvette goes from here is a good question. It would be a huge roll of the dice for GM to change it's platform to a mid-engine elite supercar. With the probability that doing so would put the base model deep into six figures, will there be enough of a market to support it?

Personally I am having my doubts as whether the Corvette will ever become a mid-engine design. Part of the reason for Corvette's continued success is because they have not deviated from their original design roots, and those origins being centered on the front engine, rear axle and full perimeter frame design. The Corvette has excelled at perfecting this platform, so much so that it begs the question as to whether the vette could significantly improve its performance with a different design. In terms of traction and handling, I could see the advantages of a mid-engine design. In my mind I could only see the platform change with the elimination of the V8 engine; However I also feel that the elimination of the V8 will seriously imperil the Corvette and Camaro lines.

Bulldog3071 · 01-10-2017, 11:13 AM

I have both a 2010 SS and a 2014 Stingray with the Z51 package and I enjoy them both, each one has its strong and weak points

camaro500 · 01-21-2017, 01:57 PM

Stock vs. stock, I would choose corvette everyday. Problem is I didn't have Corvette money 4 years ago at 25, when I bought the SS. Today, I'd love to pick up a new Z06 with Z07 package

Now excuse me while I go lollllll! @ Wut's betta m2 vs m4, thread in a BMW forum.[/QUOTE]

MrChrisLS3 · 01-21-2017, 11:02 PM

When I bought the Camaro, I was on fence between the '11 Ls3 SS, that I bought as a CPO, or an '08 Corvette with substantially higher miles. Now that the warranty is done, and never had to use any of it, I often wished I had gotten the Corvette. But I've never really kicked myself for the decision either. I like the Camaro just fine.

2010reddevil · 01-22-2017, 03:37 AM

As a driver's car, the 'Vette wins hands down in my book. Especially against a 5th Gen. You can get a base LS3 C6 A6 in the 10's quite easily with stall, FBO, cam and tune. A Camaro needs a bit more because of the weight. Best bang for the buck driver's car is the C5Z and C6Z hands down. Both cars stock are ridiculously fast and when modded, well you get the point. If I had the scratch, I would want a C5Z with a cammed LS3 transplant honestly. Lightweight combined with 480+whp = smiles for miles!! A cammed C6Z is another league all on it's own really. I love the 5th, but in all honesty, the 5th is right where it belongs performance wise, right behind the 'Vette. I wish they'd make a modern reincarnation of the Nova and Chevelle again...........

Camaro Dude · 01-22-2017, 08:35 PM

I'll roll with some of the rationalizing on here....

stock vs stock vs stock..

CTS-V!

01-09-2017, 02:34 PM	#48
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01-10-2017, 11:13 AM	#52
Bulldog3071 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Kernersville, NC Posts: 931 View My Garage	I have both a 2010 SS and a 2014 Stingray with the Z51 package and I enjoy them both, each one has its strong and weak points __________________ Hurst Short Throw Shifter, K&N CAI, SRP Racing Pedals, GM Performance Exhaust, GM GFX Package Lakewood Strut Tower Brace, JBA Shorty Headers, JBA 8 MM Wires, Airaid TB Spacer, Phastek CAI Scoop, Washer Bottle Relocation Kit, Stainlees Steel Brake Lines, Brake Performance Slotted and Drilled Rotors, BMR Tunnel Brace, BMR Trailing Arms, BMR Subframe Connectors, Borla ATAK Muffelers, Z28 Wickerbill Spoiler, VTC, Bow Tie Delete, BMR Adjustable Front Swaybar, BMR End Link Kit, BMR Extreme Rear Anti-Roll Kit, Diablo I1000 "InTune"

01-21-2017, 01:57 PM	#53
camaro500 Drives: 2017 Jaguar F Type R Tuned 498awhp Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Canada Posts: 871 View My Garage	Stock vs. stock, I would choose corvette everyday. Problem is I didn't have Corvette money 4 years ago at 25, when I bought the SS. Today, I'd love to pick up a new Z06 with Z07 package Now excuse me while I go lollllll! @ Wut's betta m2 vs m4, thread in a BMW forum.[/QUOTE] __________________ JRE cammed w.full bolt ons 444rwhp/422rwtq SOLD 2017 Jaguar F Type R ''Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.'' - F. Bueller

01-22-2017, 03:37 AM	#55
2010reddevil Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Victory Red 6M Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gulf Coast, TX Posts: 1,424	As a driver's car, the 'Vette wins hands down in my book. Especially against a 5th Gen. You can get a base LS3 C6 A6 in the 10's quite easily with stall, FBO, cam and tune. A Camaro needs a bit more because of the weight. Best bang for the buck driver's car is the C5Z and C6Z hands down. Both cars stock are ridiculously fast and when modded, well you get the point. If I had the scratch, I would want a C5Z with a cammed LS3 transplant honestly. Lightweight combined with 480+whp = smiles for miles!! A cammed C6Z is another league all on it's own really. I love the 5th, but in all honesty, the 5th is right where it belongs performance wise, right behind the 'Vette. I wish they'd make a modern reincarnation of the Nova and Chevelle again........... __________________ 2011 2SS 6A Red Jewel Metallic, Vararam Tune CAI, Magnaflow 3" Competition c/b, Speed Engineering 1-7/8 LT's, Circle D 5C, M/T 275/40R20 S/S, HPTuners tune by Ryan@GPI 12.3 @ 112 ACM as of 12/22/19 Gone on 12/28/19 R I P 2010 2SS 6M Victory Red/Black (old ride) CAI intake, Speed Engineering 1 7/8" LT's, X4 base tune, Flowmaster Outlaw axle-back. 12.6 @ 115 SAR as of 9/19/15 Gone but never forgotten. Last edited by 2010reddevil; 01-22-2017 at 09:08 PM.

01-22-2017, 08:35 PM	#56
Camaro Dude Drives: ‘13 1LE Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Earth Posts: 3,904	I vote neither I'll roll with some of the rationalizing on here.... stock vs stock vs stock.. CTS-V!

01-09-2017, 02:25 PM	#47
gringo Account Suspended Drives: Camaro V6 Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: U.S. Posts: 1,722	The Corvette and Camaro may be close in performance now, but once the new (LT5?) DOHC V8 is introduced, the performance gap will once again widen in favor of the Vette.

01-09-2017, 10:32 PM	#49
Camaro Dude Drives: ‘13 1LE Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Earth Posts: 3,904	Sledge picks up like no other vette can. 'Nuff said. Now excuse me while I go lollllll! @ Wut's betta m2 vs m4, thread in a BMW forum.

01-21-2017, 11:02 PM	#54
MrChrisLS3 Drives: 2018 1SS M6 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 2,617	When I bought the Camaro, I was on fence between the '11 Ls3 SS, that I bought as a CPO, or an '08 Corvette with substantially higher miles. Now that the warranty is done, and never had to use any of it, I often wished I had gotten the Corvette. But I've never really kicked myself for the decision either. I like the Camaro just fine.