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Old 01-16-2014, 07:11 AM   #29
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Ecoboost is a marketing name for a series of DI Turbo Chatged engines. Ford will gladly tell you includes a whole host of calibrations as well. But every engine today is uniquely calibrated for each application. GM beat Ford to DI turbocharging with the 2.0 in the Solstice and this is coming from a Ford power train engineer.

So the only thing "special" is the use of smaller displacement turbo engines in place of larger NA engines. Ecoboost = DI turbocharging.
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Old 01-16-2014, 07:52 AM   #30
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Plus from what I've seen, DI turbocharged smaller displacement engines are great for fuel economy in smaller cars.

Not so much in a light duty truck. Hence all the EcoBoost fuel economy controversy.
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:09 AM   #31
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I'm not sure where all the Ecoboost hate really comes from. It wasn't supposed to get the FE of the 3.7 V6 with the power of the 6.2. It was supposed to get the FE of a small V8 with the power of a big V8. It does that (mine gets exactly what the sticker says for City/Hwy MPG). If Ford wanted to give up some towing capacity in exchange for FE they would develope another version...oh wait they just did.
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:13 AM   #32
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nah.... don't like it... its got some decent things on it but overall its just not it.
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:36 AM   #33
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To all the ecoboost haters. . Do you even own one? Real mileage for you. .

Summer blend gas
City 20 mpg
Hwy 24 mpg

Winter blend
City - 18
Hwy - 21

And on top of that I can drag race destroy any Chevy 6.2... and any bolt on 5th gen v6 camaro for a matter of fact.

Ecoboost is a game changer no doubt.


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Old 01-16-2014, 08:37 AM   #34
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Btw that's with a 2wd 3.15 geared

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Old 01-16-2014, 08:46 AM   #35
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they're not awesome at all. they have the power of a v7 and the efficiency of a v8, with the complexity of a TTv6. zero advantage at all. in reality, the new 6.2 gm offers a huge power advantage with the same economy, and way less headaches. once the ecoboost gets to 60,000+ miles, it's a maintenance nightmare, with turbo and sensor issues. remember, you're putting your faith in a company to build a TT DI v6 that can't even get a spark plug right.

the ecoboost is far from a game changer. if anything, it's a step backwards.

The Ecoboost makes similar power as the 5.0 and GMs new 5.3, and makes similar TQ to Fords 6.2. So by what your saying they all have the power of a V7? I'm confused I'm not sure what a V7 is? Was it a typo?

Like stated earlier there has been a few issues with condensation, but the number of issues compared to the number sold is a very low percent. IDK where your 60K + mile nightmare is coming from! but I know several people that have ecoboosts with 110K + miles with no issues other than general maintenance. I used an Ecoboost as a work truck for a short period and I always got every bit of the advertised gas milage. Out on the highway 21-22 easy. Same with any vehicle gas milage depends on how your drive it. I personal owned a 5.0 F150 and am more impressed by the milage it gets compared to the Ecoboost, on the highway I get 21 all day. Loved the sound from the 5.0 but the power was better in the Ecoboost

Gas milage are trucks with 4wd. My 5.0 F150 had 3:73 rear I think the Eco had 3:55s

I'm not sure what your referring to by the spark plug issue, can you educate me on the issue? I haven't heard of an issue so I'm curious. Unless your referring to the 3V spark plugs?
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:49 AM   #36
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Honestly I can't help nut think that the nano2.7EB was developed to be the 150's new FE "champion" which in turn frees up the 3.5 to be more aggressively tuned. Especially since the 3.5 will now be "replacing" the 6.2 Boss.
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:53 AM   #37
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Honestly I can't help nut think that the nano2.7EB was developed to be the 150's new FE "champion" which in turn frees up the 3.5 to be more aggressively tuned. Especially since the 3.5 will now be "replacing" the 6.2 Boss.

I agree here. The current Ecoboost was leaving quite a bit on the table power wise IMO. I'm hoping the next gen 6.2 from Ford wasn't announced because it's still in development, but I'm probably hoping for nothing lol
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:55 AM   #38
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This is what a tuned downpipe ecoboost can do at the track.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVrw1LpQtps&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Don't be fooled by the weak stock tune they put on this truck.

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Old 01-16-2014, 09:04 AM   #39
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Btw that's with a 2wd 3.15 geared

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Hwy mileage is till rated by the EPA at 22. GM's 5.3 V8 is rated at 23.
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Old 01-16-2014, 09:06 AM   #40
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Hwy mileage is till rated by the EPA at 22. GM's 5.3 V8 is rated at 23.
Very true. But if you're going to compare the 5.3 to the 3.5EB, then look at the whole picture. How much output (thusly towing and hauling capacities) are you giving up to the EB to get that 1mpg?

If your then going to say that if you need that increased towing and hauling capacity you can get the 6.2. Again, very true, but then let's ask how much FE are giving up to the EB for that increased output?

That my friend is how EB is marketed to do. Give you the FE of a small V8/ "large" V6 and the ability to work it like a much larger V8.
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Old 01-16-2014, 09:30 AM   #41
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To the haters, I DO own one. I purchased it to tow my track cars, now the 1LE. The gas mileage and power is great. No issues with the truck, so call me biased or whatever. Now, the looks of the new one, that's definitely a hit or miss prospect.
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Old 01-16-2014, 09:31 AM   #42
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Very true. But if you're going to compare the 5.3 to the 3.5EB, then look at the whole picture. How much output (thusly towing and hauling capacities) are you giving up to the EB to get that 1mpg?

If your then going to say that if you need that increased towing and hauling capacity you can get the 6.2. Again, very true, but then let's ask how much FE are giving up to the EB for that increased output?

That my friend is how EB is marketed to do. Give you the FE of a small V8/ "large" V6 and the ability to work it like a much larger V8.
Exactly. And what's more, it doesn't lose much FE when towing. My last F150's MPG was cut almost in half when towing. My EB goes from 21-22 Hwy to 18-19. BTW, that's with a SuperCab 4x4 with 3.73 gears.
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