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Yellow 1 · 01-11-2016, 08:58 AM

Some of the more geekier UK members might find this interesting; in my day job I run a large fleet of big boys tunnelling toys and whenever my lads do any servicing I submit oil samples to Caterpillar's analysis lab for reports - helps sometimes with knowing that a motor, pump or transmission etc is about to 'let go' so we can change-out stuff or rebuild units before major damage and expensive production stoppage. I slipped in two samples from my Camaro (taken by the technician at Toomey Chevrolet) Sent one from the engine (LS3) and one from the diff. I've pasted the engine report below so you can see what stuff is in there. No bits of big-ends, piston rings or small animals. Yet.....

(The forum doesn't seem to like the format of the report; the figures below the Elements refer to content in ppm (parts per million) e.g;
Fe (iron = 62 ppm)

Message: Oil Sample - Information Lab No:460072969
Attn: Ed
More Information
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SAMPLE DETAILS 11-Jan-2016
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CURRENT SAMPLE

Customer
BBMV C510 JOINT VENTURE
Jobsite
BBMV JOINT VENTURE HQ
Serial No
CHEVROLET
Unit No
LS3-V8
Model
CAMARO
Make
CHEVROLET
Oil Type
ACDelco Dexos 1
Oil Grade
5W/30
Compartment
ENGINE - PETROL
Compart Serial

Job No

Meter
18086
Lab No
460072969
Sample Date
22-Dec-2015
Eval

B

Sample Site
BBMV OFFICE

DETAILS

Lab No
Eval
Date Sampled
Date Received
Label
Actioned
Meter Read
Comp. Hours
Fluid Hours
Fluid Added
Fluid Changed
Filter Changed
460072969

B

22-Dec-2015
06-Jan-2016

N

18086
18086
0
0.00
Y
Y

ELEMENT TESTS

Lab No
Eval
PQI
V40
Pb
Sn
Cu
Na
K
Fe
Cr
Al
Si
Ni
Mo
Ba
Mg
Ca
P
Zn
OXI
NIT
SUL
F
A
W
460072969

B

17
74.4
0
1
46
3
4
Fe 62
Cr 1.5
7
7
0.2
3
0
6
1699
578
694
27
63
16
N
P
N

COMMENTS

Lab No
Eval
Comment
460072969

B

WE NOTE THAT THE OIL HAS BEEN CHANGED AT THIS TIME - WEAR METALS DON'T LOOK TOO BAD - COPPER, IRON AND ALUMINIUM IS SLIGHTLY ELEVATED BUT MAY WELL BE NORMAL FOR THIS TYPE OF ENGINE... PLEASE CONFIRM THE OIL TYPE / GRADE BEING USED AND WE WILL OBSERVE THE NEXT SCHEDULED SAMPLE BEFORE MAKING FURTHER COMMENTS.

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redleader · 01-11-2016, 12:35 PM

That is an AWESOME Post and. Great Idea!! :-) Thank you.

What does it all mean?!

There's a small business hiding in this ...

Please continue, maybe at 6 monthly Oil changes? :-)

Yellow 1 · 01-11-2016, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redleader

That is an AWESOME Post and. Great Idea!! :-) Thank you.

What does it all mean?!

There's a small business hiding in this ...

Please continue, maybe at 6 monthly Oil changes? :-)

Redleader - pm me your own email address & I'll send the original versions of diff and engine sample reports - and some jargon buster stuff to interpret it You could maybe work yer IT voodoo

on them and post them up in better format than a club-fingered mechanical engineer. The original is in Word with an accompanying pdf with graphs and colours and all sorts of magic stuff. If any of you UK guys want some of this I can maybe work something out for you.....

'Oily' Ed

RichSS2006 · 01-11-2016, 04:47 PM

Oily Ed, Is this only for your UK friends or can certain Yanks have a look see too?

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ghosted · 01-11-2016, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redleader

That is an AWESOME Post and. Great Idea!! :-) Thank you.

What does it all mean?!

There's a small business hiding in this ...

Please continue, maybe at 6 monthly Oil changes? :-)

There are already multiple oil analysis services available online, such as Blackstone Labs, I'm sending a sample in soon. But I agree, it's a great tool!

Yellow 1 · 01-11-2016, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichSS2006

Oily Ed, Is this only for your UK friends or can certain Yanks have a look see too?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Hi Rich - might just be a visa exemption available for you mate

I'll mail you tomorrow bud - just off to bed (23:05 here) only stayed up late to watch the sad David Bowie fallout (RIP - formative stuff in my life - what a legacy he's left)

01-11-2016, 08:58 AM	#1
Yellow 1 Grumpy Grey-haired Guy Drives: Camaro, Corvette & Merc C300(daily) Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: South Warwickshire, UK. Posts: 806 View My Garage	Oil sampling Some of the more geekier UK members might find this interesting; in my day job I run a large fleet of big boys tunnelling toys and whenever my lads do any servicing I submit oil samples to Caterpillar's analysis lab for reports - helps sometimes with knowing that a motor, pump or transmission etc is about to 'let go' so we can change-out stuff or rebuild units before major damage and expensive production stoppage. I slipped in two samples from my Camaro (taken by the technician at Toomey Chevrolet) Sent one from the engine (LS3) and one from the diff. I've pasted the engine report below so you can see what stuff is in there. No bits of big-ends, piston rings or small animals. Yet..... (The forum doesn't seem to like the format of the report; the figures below the Elements refer to content in ppm (parts per million) e.g; Fe (iron = 62 ppm) Message: Oil Sample - Information Lab No:460072969 Attn: Ed More Information ------------------------------------------------------------------ SAMPLE DETAILS 11-Jan-2016 ------------------------------------------------------------------ CURRENT SAMPLE Customer BBMV C510 JOINT VENTURE Jobsite BBMV JOINT VENTURE HQ Serial No CHEVROLET Unit No LS3-V8 Model CAMARO Make CHEVROLET Oil Type ACDelco Dexos 1 Oil Grade 5W/30 Compartment ENGINE - PETROL Compart Serial Job No Meter 18086 Lab No 460072969 Sample Date 22-Dec-2015 Eval B Sample Site BBMV OFFICE DETAILS Lab No Eval Date Sampled Date Received Label Actioned Meter Read Comp. Hours Fluid Hours Fluid Added Fluid Changed Filter Changed 460072969 B 22-Dec-2015 06-Jan-2016 N 18086 18086 0 0.00 Y Y ELEMENT TESTS Lab No Eval PQI V40 Pb Sn Cu Na K Fe Cr Al Si Ni Mo Ba Mg Ca P Zn OXI NIT SUL F A W 460072969 B 17 74.4 0 1 46 3 4 Fe 62 Cr 1.5 7 7 0.2 3 0 6 1699 578 694 27 63 16 N P N COMMENTS Lab No Eval Comment 460072969 B WE NOTE THAT THE OIL HAS BEEN CHANGED AT THIS TIME - WEAR METALS DON'T LOOK TOO BAD - COPPER, IRON AND ALUMINIUM IS SLIGHTLY ELEVATED BUT MAY WELL BE NORMAL FOR THIS TYPE OF ENGINE... PLEASE CONFIRM THE OIL TYPE / GRADE BEING USED AND WE WILL OBSERVE THE NEXT SCHEDULED SAMPLE BEFORE MAKING FURTHER COMMENTS. Sent by InfoTrak. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the individual to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please delete the message immediately, and notify the sender. Any rights not expressly granted herein are reserved. Reproduction, transfer or distribution of part or all of the contents in any form without the prior written permission of Finning (UK) Ltd. Is prohibited. Views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Finning (UK) Ltd. Please note that we reserve the right to monitor and read any emails sent and received by the Company under the Telecommunications (Lawful Business Practice) (Interception of Communications) Regulations 2000 Although Finning (UK) Ltd. has taken every reasonable precaution to ensure that any e-mails have been checked for viruses, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure this e-mail and its attachments are virus free before opening. Finning (UK) Ltd. accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Finning is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority for credit-related, regulated activities. Finning (UK) Ltd is a company registered in England and Wales (Company Registration Number 367090) and its registered office is at Watling Street, Cannock, Staffordshire WS11 8LL Copyright Finning (UK) Ltd. 2015

01-11-2016, 12:35 PM	#2
redleader redleader Drives: 2010 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: UK Posts: 2,201 View My Garage	Oil sampling That is an AWESOME Post and. Great Idea!! :-) Thank you. What does it all mean?! There's a small business hiding in this ... Please continue, maybe at 6 monthly Oil changes? :-)

01-11-2016, 04:47 PM	#4
RichSS2006 Drives: 2010 2SSRS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: South Carolina Posts: 506 View My Garage	Oily Ed, Is this only for your UK friends or can certain Yanks have a look see too? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ No longer stock, but oooh so much more fun!