3.73 or 4.10? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

caverman · 02-17-2011, 11:59 PM

What is everyone using?

Early on I heard that 4.10 were not holding up and to use 3.73 to be on the safe side. Is this still the case or have the 4.10 gears had their issues sorted out?

HzMajesty · 02-18-2011, 01:29 AM

im in that same situation right now... search the forum on 4.11 gears from richmond...

BigMatt · 02-18-2011, 07:20 AM

I've heard all the issues have been worked out with the 4.10's for a while now.

caverman · 02-18-2011, 08:04 AM

My concern also is that the 4.10 will be a bit much for a daily driver. I'm wondering if 3.73 will be a nice middle ground gear. But then I think that going 3.45 - 3.73 isn't all that much and wouldn't be worth the money.....this isn't a cheap mod, especially compared to the $350 it cost me to buy and have the gears changed in my '69.

blazzin1 · 02-18-2011, 08:21 AM

I've always heard that the 3.73's are best for the L99's, and 4.10's for the LS3. And if you're LS3 is staying all naturally aspirated (i.e., no supercharger, no turbo), and you do want an agressive gear, you can even go up to 4.33's!!

Supercharged SS · 02-18-2011, 08:35 AM

You're going to get a differnt answer from everyone that will post in this thread. I won't tell you what's the best application. Mainly bc I don't know what the F i'm talking about. I can only tell you that in my L99, making north of 660 rwhp, I have a Jannetty built 4.10 rear. Its awesome and by far the best thing I have done to the car, besides everything else.

It accelerates like there's no tomorrow. Passing on the highway takes almost no throttle becasue you are so much closer to the power band. It does cruise at just below 2400 rpm at 75 which makes the exhaust note louder so if you DD drive that may not be for you.

2010 2-Tone · 02-18-2011, 08:39 AM

The several people that I spoke with that has the 4.10 say that it is the best for the LS3's. They love them and that 2nd pulls like 1st use too, 3rd pulls like 2nd use too and so on.

IMHO it is not worth the money to go from 3.45 to 3.73.

Apex Motorsports · 02-18-2011, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blazzin1

I've always heard that the 3.73's are best for the L99's, and 4.10's for the LS3. And if you're LS3 is staying all naturally aspirated (i.e., no supercharger, no turbo), and you do want an agressive gear, you can even go up to 4.33's!!

For a street driven daily driver this is my general recommendation. 4.10 is perfect for the LS3 cars but Richmond just released 4.11s that are apparently stronger. If you have any questions feel free to hit me up.

danhr · 02-18-2011, 10:03 AM

If you think 4.10's are too much for a street gear in these cars and you have a LS3, you need to unbuckle your pants and see if the boys are still hanging.

just my opinion.....

ProudLS · 02-18-2011, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apex Chase

For a street driven daily driver this is my general recommendation. 4.10 is perfect for the LS3 cars but Richmond just released 4.11s that are apparently stronger. If you have any questions feel free to hit me up.

Any idea how much it will be?

Thanks,

Apex Motorsports · 02-18-2011, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProudLS

Any idea how much it will be?

Thanks,

Same as the current gears including our gear and install kit packages. Hit me up if you would like details.

caverman · 02-19-2011, 10:43 PM

What should I be searching on to find more info and feedback about the different gears? I've tried 3.70, 3.73, 4.10, gears.....but not much info seems to be coming up.

I'm hoping to get an idea on RPM in different the different gears. ex: 2000 RPM, 75 mph, 6th gear with 4.10 vs 3.73.

Ucantctchme · 02-20-2011, 05:35 AM

Has anyone heard anything from Motive gear about a ring and pinion for our cars?

ripcard · 02-20-2011, 06:45 AM

Caverman here is what I copied from another gear ration discussion thread awhile back. IIRC it's Richmond's own info:

Camaro LS3 gear ratios

Manual transmissions (LS3/TR6060)

3.45 gears:
Top speed in X gear:
1st: 51 mph
2nd: 74 mph
3rd: 107 mph
4th: 153 mph
5th: 182 mph
6th: 269 mph

RPM at XX mph in 6th gear:
60 mph: 1380 rpm
70 mph: 1610 rpm
80 mph: 1850 rpm

3.73 gears:
Top speed in X gear:
1st: 47 mph
2nd: 68 mph
3rd: 99 mph
4th: 142 mph
5th: 169 mph
6th: 249 mph

RPM at XX mph in 6th gear:
60 mph: 1500 rpm
70 mph: 1750 rpm
80 mph: 2000 rpm

4.10 gears:
Top speed in X gear:
1st: 43 mph
2nd: 62 mph
3rd: 90 mph
4th: 129 mph
5th: 154 mph
6th: 226 mph

RPM at XX mph in 6th gear:
60 mph: 1650 rpm
70 mph: 1925 rpm
80 mph: 2200 rpm

4.33 gears:
Top speed in X gear:
1st: 41 mph
2nd: 59 mph
3rd: 85 mph
4th: 122 mph
5th: 145 mph
6th: 214 mph

RPM at XX mph in 6th gear:
60 mph: 1733 rpm
70 mph: 2025 rpm
80 mph: 2325 rpm

Hope this helps.

02-17-2011, 11:59 PM	#1
caverman Drives: '69 SS Convertible Join Date: May 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 7,111	3.73 or 4.10? What is everyone using? Early on I heard that 4.10 were not holding up and to use 3.73 to be on the safe side. Is this still the case or have the 4.10 gears had their issues sorted out? __________________ *-2010 Camaro* 2SS \| M6 \| VR w/White Stripes \| 1 3/4" KOOKS - 3" Magnaflow \| LPE 3.91 gears \| ADM tuned \| Halltech w/ADM Scoop \| Spohn/BMR Trailing Arm/Toe Rod \| BC Coilovers\| Pedders FE4 ZL1 swaybars \| Cradle/Diff/Radius Rod bushings \| VMax TB \| Morimoto Projectors \| MGW shifter \| Red Calipers Build Journal

02-18-2011, 01:29 AM	#2
HzMajesty Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Blk/Blk Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: BAH Posts: 339 View My Garage	im in that same situation right now... search the forum on 4.11 gears from richmond... __________________ SHOCKWAVE - 2SS/RS/M6 - Blk/Blk JRE Tuned - ARH LT 1-7/8 w/Cats - JRE Rear 4.11 - Borla "S" Cat-Back - CAI by CAI - H&R drop - HURST Shifter - BMR Tunnel Brace; 4 Point Brace; Adjustable Toe Rod; Rear Trailing Arms - Sphon Control Arms - MTI Racing w/Fire Sleeves - Stealth Ambers - GTS Tails - Phantom Grille - Concept LED Sidemarkers - Blacked out logos - Hotchkis Bars & End links - BMR Front Driveshaft Loop (install soon) - BMR Subframe connectors (install soon) http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3813191#

02-18-2011, 07:20 AM	#3
BigMatt 2010 Camaro 2 SS/RS M6 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: Clayton Delaware Posts: 1,218 View My Garage	I've heard all the issues have been worked out with the 4.10's for a while now. __________________ Forged LS3, FED M311 heads, CAI Inc, ARH 1 7/8, Corsa Xtreme, Taylor Wires, MGW Shifter, Street slayer twin carbon clutch, Tick braided clutch line & speed bleeder, ZL1 Diff Swap, BMR Split drop, Sway Bars, Trailing Arms, Toe Rods, Pro bushing kit, Carslyle racing 15in conversion, Whipple, LPE dual fuel pumps, Rx catch can, Id1300x, Alky Control

02-18-2011, 08:04 AM	#4
caverman Drives: '69 SS Convertible Join Date: May 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 7,111	My concern also is that the 4.10 will be a bit much for a daily driver. I'm wondering if 3.73 will be a nice middle ground gear. But then I think that going 3.45 - 3.73 isn't all that much and wouldn't be worth the money.....this isn't a cheap mod, especially compared to the $350 it cost me to buy and have the gears changed in my '69. __________________ *-2010 Camaro* 2SS \| M6 \| VR w/White Stripes \| 1 3/4" KOOKS - 3" Magnaflow \| LPE 3.91 gears \| ADM tuned \| Halltech w/ADM Scoop \| Spohn/BMR Trailing Arm/Toe Rod \| BC Coilovers\| Pedders FE4 ZL1 swaybars \| Cradle/Diff/Radius Rod bushings \| VMax TB \| Morimoto Projectors \| MGW shifter \| Red Calipers Build Journal

02-18-2011, 10:03 AM	#9
danhr BAMF SS Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS A8 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ford City, PA Posts: 3,023	If you think 4.10's are too much for a street gear in these cars and you have a LS3, you need to unbuckle your pants and see if the boys are still hanging. just my opinion..... __________________ 2016 1SS A8: FBO + Circle D + P1X + Meth + Tuned by Pray Performance Stock Longblock 800 SAE rwhp. 9.4 @ 145 mph.

02-18-2011, 08:21 AM	#5
blazzin1 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS R6P Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: St. Cloud, FL Posts: 4,845 View My Garage	I've always heard that the 3.73's are best for the L99's, and 4.10's for the LS3. And if you're LS3 is staying all naturally aspirated (i.e., no supercharger, no turbo), and you do want an agressive gear, you can even go up to 4.33's!!

02-18-2011, 08:35 AM	#6
Supercharged SS Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 11,927	You're going to get a differnt answer from everyone that will post in this thread. I won't tell you what's the best application. Mainly bc I don't know what the F i'm talking about. I can only tell you that in my L99, making north of 660 rwhp, I have a Jannetty built 4.10 rear. Its awesome and by far the best thing I have done to the car, besides everything else. It accelerates like there's no tomorrow. Passing on the highway takes almost no throttle becasue you are so much closer to the power band. It does cruise at just below 2400 rpm at 75 which makes the exhaust note louder so if you DD drive that may not be for you.

02-18-2011, 08:39 AM	#7
2010 2-Tone Drives: 2010 RY 2SS with Custom Stripes Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Jennings, La. Posts: 2,220 View My Garage	The several people that I spoke with that has the 4.10 say that it is the best for the LS3's. They love them and that 2nd pulls like 1st use too, 3rd pulls like 2nd use too and so on. IMHO it is not worth the money to go from 3.45 to 3.73.

02-19-2011, 10:43 PM	#12
caverman Drives: '69 SS Convertible Join Date: May 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 7,111	What should I be searching on to find more info and feedback about the different gears? I've tried 3.70, 3.73, 4.10, gears.....but not much info seems to be coming up. I'm hoping to get an idea on RPM in different the different gears. ex: 2000 RPM, 75 mph, 6th gear with 4.10 vs 3.73. __________________ *-2010 Camaro* 2SS \| M6 \| VR w/White Stripes \| 1 3/4" KOOKS - 3" Magnaflow \| LPE 3.91 gears \| ADM tuned \| Halltech w/ADM Scoop \| Spohn/BMR Trailing Arm/Toe Rod \| BC Coilovers\| Pedders FE4 ZL1 swaybars \| Cradle/Diff/Radius Rod bushings \| VMax TB \| Morimoto Projectors \| MGW shifter \| Red Calipers Build Journal

02-20-2011, 05:35 AM	#13
Ucantctchme Drives: 2010 ss. 1990 RS the faster one. Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Orlando Posts: 549	Has anyone heard anything from Motive gear about a ring and pinion for our cars?

02-20-2011, 06:45 AM	#14
ripcard INJACC Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS CGM/IO 6M Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Burritts Rapids, ON Canada Posts: 770	Caverman here is what I copied from another gear ration discussion thread awhile back. IIRC it's Richmond's own info: Camaro LS3 gear ratios Manual transmissions (LS3/TR6060) 3.45 gears: Top speed in X gear: 1st: 51 mph 2nd: 74 mph 3rd: 107 mph 4th: 153 mph 5th: 182 mph 6th: 269 mph RPM at XX mph in 6th gear: 60 mph: 1380 rpm 70 mph: 1610 rpm 80 mph: 1850 rpm 3.73 gears: Top speed in X gear: 1st: 47 mph 2nd: 68 mph 3rd: 99 mph 4th: 142 mph 5th: 169 mph 6th: 249 mph RPM at XX mph in 6th gear: 60 mph: 1500 rpm 70 mph: 1750 rpm 80 mph: 2000 rpm 4.10 gears: Top speed in X gear: 1st: 43 mph 2nd: 62 mph 3rd: 90 mph 4th: 129 mph 5th: 154 mph 6th: 226 mph RPM at XX mph in 6th gear: 60 mph: 1650 rpm 70 mph: 1925 rpm 80 mph: 2200 rpm 4.33 gears: Top speed in X gear: 1st: 41 mph 2nd: 59 mph 3rd: 85 mph 4th: 122 mph 5th: 145 mph 6th: 214 mph RPM at XX mph in 6th gear: 60 mph: 1733 rpm 70 mph: 2025 rpm 80 mph: 2325 rpm Hope this helps. __________________ Pedders Xa Coilovers & Sways w/Fe4, Pfadt Rear Trailing Arms & Tie Rods, Forgestar CF5s, ZL1 Brakes, 1LE 3.91 Diff, Pedders Cradle Bushings, MGW STS, BTR Stage II Cam, Fluidampr U/D Pulley, Performance Redline Dyno Tune, CAI & Apex Scoop, Pfadt Tri-Y Headers w/HF Cats, Magnaflow 3" Cat Back, RX Catch Can, VMax TB, Billet Tunnel Brace, SRP Pedals, Skip Shift, Seibon CF Hood & ST Trunk, 1LE Splitter, ZL1 Rockers & Diffuser, Heritage Grill, F & R Sparks "SS" badges, Billet Door Handles, Tint, Technostalgia Tail Lights, AAC Side Markers, BlackVue dash cam and my favourite accessory...Litho #163.

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