OFFICIAL 2010 Camaro Specifications (full tech specs PDF inside)

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by RS

Интересно сколь будет налог на камарыча в нашей раше!

Welcome RS,

I understood this


and this


The rest, i'm a bit fuzzy on...

[PA FAST]

Originally Posted by gtahvit

Welcome RS,

I understood this


and this


The rest, i'm a bit fuzzy on...

Don't speak Russian but this is the jist of it:

It will be interesting however the tax on камарыча in ours раше!

http://ets6.freetranslation.com/

Second Website:

There will interestingly to what extent be tax to [kamarycha] in our Rasch!

http://www.appliedlanguage.com/free_translation.shtml

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by PA FAST

Don't speak Russian but this is the jist of it:

It will be interesting however the tax on камарыча in ours раше!

http://ets6.freetranslation.com/

Second Website:

There will interestingly to what extent be tax to [kamarycha] in our Rasch!

http://www.appliedlanguage.com/free_translation.shtml

NICE!

Thanks

[PA FAST]

Originally Posted by gtahvit

NICE!

Thanks

No problem.

[chevyXstacy]

Is anyone else concerned with how heavy this thing will be?

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by chevyXstacy

Is anyone else concerned with how heavy this thing will be?

Lots of people are. I have a feeling their fears are groundless. The Camaro should still out perform its rivals in acceleration, fuel economy, and handling. We will know more about the feel of the car when reviews start coming in from magazines in a few months, and from owners a couple months after that. But so far, the general consensus is that Zeta's carry the weight well.

[NoFatCars]

Deal breaker for me. Very excited to read the specs until I got this one. I always look at weight when considering a car that is performance oriented.

This is what happens in the auto industry when the "soon to be layed off SUV engineers" get transferred to the performance car division. Just poor engineering. Does it have AWD? In this great day of "lighter cars lighter materials" I just don't get it (and it has an Aluminum block?!). Perhaps its the new uranium wheels? Was this a dry weight or was the 410lb typical American driver included? Now I understand the requirement for 14" rotors!

The good new is that its lighter that the challenger or charger (OMG 4000+!). If you don't think weight makes a difference then thats great; your beyond help (crack open a physics book or check the specs on a vette or better yet drive one).

Cant weight (wait) for the big three to go tits up. Maybe then they will start competing instead of selling to an eroding, captive customer base.

The engineering decisions on this car just thoroughly depress me.
(reference - a 67 SS weighed in at ~3240 - cast iron block and heads included)

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by NoFatCars

Deal breaker for me. Very excited to read the specs until I got this one. I always look at weight when considering a car that is performance oriented.

This is what happens in the auto industry when the "soon to be layed off SUV engineers" get transferred to the performance car division. Just poor engineering. Does it have AWD? In this great day of "lighter cars lighter materials" I just don't get it (and it has an Aluminum block?!). Perhaps its the new uranium wheels? Was this a dry weight or was the 410lb typical American driver included? Now I understand the requirement for 14" rotors!

The good new is that its lighter that the challenger or charger (OMG 4000+!). If you don't think weight makes a difference then thats great; your beyond help (crack open a physics book or check the specs on a vette or better yet drive one).

Cant weight (wait) for the big three to go tits up. Maybe then they will start competing instead of selling to an eroding, captive customer base.

The engineering decisions on this car just thoroughly depress me.
(reference - a 67 SS weighed in at ~3240 - cast iron block and heads included)

Write your congressmen, it's their nanny laws that are making cars heavy. In 1967 they didn't have bumper standards, side impact standards, mandatory air bags, mandatory ABS, mandatory stability control, mandaroty catalytic converters, mandatory filters on the fuel venting, etc. etc.

You know-it-all wannabes are a joke to those of us who do know it all.

Sure, there are ways the car can weigh less, but those involve exotic materials and you geniuses would sh!+ a brick if the new Camaro was $0.50 more than a Musting in MSRP, so think that one over a while!

Camaro Design Mantra:

a. Good Looking
b. Low Price
c. Lightweight
d. Quality Construction

(Pick any 3)

[Mindz]

What average american is 410 lbs? Are you part of a "larger" family where your average relatives weight is 400+?

[Muscle Master]

Originally Posted by Mindz

What average american is 410 lbs? Are you part of a "larger" family where your average relatives weight is 400+?

GodDamn........ I know I'm 274 but damn, I couldn't stand my self being that big ......unless I was all muscle

But thats got to be wrong, I say between 200-225 lb

[Mindz]

you forget most women are less than 150. average weight for an "american driver" is probably around 180.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by NoFatCars

Deal breaker for me. Very excited to read the specs until I got this one. I always look at weight when considering a car that is performance oriented.

This is what happens in the auto industry when the "soon to be layed off SUV engineers" get transferred to the performance car division. Just poor engineering. Does it have AWD? In this great day of "lighter cars lighter materials" I just don't get it (and it has an Aluminum block?!). Perhaps its the new uranium wheels? Was this a dry weight or was the 410lb typical American driver included? Now I understand the requirement for 14" rotors!

The good new is that its lighter that the challenger or charger (OMG 4000+!). If you don't think weight makes a difference then thats great; your beyond help (crack open a physics book or check the specs on a vette or better yet drive one).

Cant weight (wait) for the big three to go tits up. Maybe then they will start competing instead of selling to an eroding, captive customer base.

The engineering decisions on this car just thoroughly depress me.
(reference - a 67 SS weighed in at ~3240 - cast iron block and heads included)

The Camaro is heavy to meet safety regulations. This has been said time and time again. Despite that, it is still lighter than the Challenger by hundreds of pounds. The Camaro was engineered by Australians who never let affordable rear drive V8's die. It was not engineered by 'soon to be layed off SUV engineers'. Do you really think that they intentionally made the SS ~3900 lbs? Do you believe that they were sitting in the meetings and said "hmm, well we could save 100 lbs here, another 75 there, and a whoping 200 over there but we better not, we have to give the people something to gripe about". The engineers did the best they possibly could at optimising weight, cost, and performance. They could not compromise on safety. So maybe you would have been happier with a 3600 lb SS that uses lots of lightweight material and skimps on things that make living with the car every day more comfortable, but also costs $45 000. I wouldn't that because I can't afford a car that expensive. Besides, if it cost that much I could go get a Vette for the same price.

You brought up a good point when you suggested people should drive a corvette -it might change their mind on the weight issue. In return, might I suggest to you that you drive a Camaro before you say that it is too heavy and so forth. BMW's handle very well with their weight, as does the G8 and even the cars on the Chrysler LX platform do fairly well. The Camaro is lighter than all of them. For acceleration, the new SS will be the quickest and fastest Camaro that GM has produced. Ever. Maybe your issue with weight is fuel economy? Well if that is the case then look what the light Mustang gets, or the Challenger that has only a bit more power. The Camaro beats them both.

I don't quite believe you on the '67 SS weight. The light ZL1 Camaros with the aluminum blocks weighed 3300 lbs, granted it was a 69 not a 67 but I don't think the weight changed a whole lot on the 1st gens. Most Camaros back then weighed ~3500. But then cars were weighed in the most optimistic way to make them seem as light as possible, just as engine outputs were gross power not net power.

[tony19118]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

Camaro Design Mantra:

a. Good Looking
b. Low Price
c. Lightweight
d. Quality Construction

(Pick any 3)

i like that. very good point

[Mindz]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

Camaro Design Mantra:

a. Good Looking
b. Lower Price Then The Mustang
c. Lightweight
d. Quality Construction

(Pick any 3)

Fixed.