New Chrome ZL1 Replica Wheels

[2SS/RSD]

Your ride looks great....love that chrome look!!

[bee sting]

Originally Posted by Fish-man

looks great!

someone asked why GM doesn't shut these down... well give it time I'm sure... but would like to point out that whoever makes these forgot to come on camaro5 and take pre-orders :-)

True, I think they could sell a few sets for sure . I've already had 2 guys
On Facebook today call where i got mine and place a order.

[wyd_trkr]

Originally Posted by Fish-man

looks great!

someone asked why GM doesn't shut these down... well give it time I'm sure... but would like to point out that whoever makes these forgot to come on camaro5 and take pre-orders :-)

Fish-Man. Sorry to have to interject into this good conversation, however, Every Vehicle on the Road made by every Auto Manufacturer, be it Foreign or Domestic has all their OEM Wheels made in China! By having them made in China, this also gives the Aftermarket a chance to make a Replica or a Styled Type Wheel and the Federal Court System Cannot and nor Will Not Prosecute , nor put a "Cease and Desist Order" on whomever is making these type wheels!

Look around you, as everything being "Invented" is being copied and reproduced all over the world, as I currently type! The Clincher here is, that these Aftermarket Wheels can look exactly like the factory ones, but if they use the Important Legal Term called either "Replica or Style" and someone tries to take them into a court of Law, forget it, as the Federal Court System will Laugh the Case right out of the Room! This is the way things have been within the last 3 to 4 years for Automobile Wheels not still being made in this country, as it is costing the Auto Manufacturer half the cost to get the Chinese to make them, verses to make them inside the good ole USA.

Look at Enkei Wheel Corporation, they have been making GM Wheels for the past 20 something years, but not anymore, they are made in China with an OEM Factory Designation on them. Also, for those of you that do not know this 90% of all Aftermarket Wheel are all made in China as well. Look at TSW Wheels, as I have owned 3 sets of their chrome wheels over the last 5 years and 2 years ago they stopped manufacturing them in California, as they too, also found that they could get them manufactured in China for less than 1/2 the cost of making them in house!

Fancy that! Now, gentlemen, enjoy your Factory Stamped Aftermarket OEM or Replica/Style Wheels, as they ALL are the "Same Exact" Production Casting as to what some others seem to think that it is FACTORY and FACTORY is no longer FACTORY, they all are made in China! Hope this helps!

[FINALLYSATISFIED]

Originally Posted by bee sting

I guess you know what your talking about I have 2 friends that Have ZL1's and setting side by side you can't tell the difference other than there set has ZL1 stamped in them . So call them "B-grade " if you want . And No my mind isn't playing tricks on me , I know Exactly what I bought .

As for why I bought them .. I didn't want something with ZL1 on them and I didn't want that size tire on the car . Do you have any idea what Real ZL1 Wheels and Tires cost ?- I'm sure you do sense you know my wheels are not real .
I got this complete set up for a Third of the cost of Real ZL1 wheels . No I don't have loads of $$$ so I bought what I could afford and what I thought would look good on the car And Something I haven't seen on anyone else's car .. Yet .
But thanks for your input

It's a good replica but like all replicas/variants none are perfect and true as OEM. I have the same rims and they look different to me. I like to call that a factual fact. You don't have to justify to me why you bought them, I didn't ask. That's your personal business. I didn't ask you for your financial status.

Yes I'm completely aware of what they cost, I'm a proud new owner of one. Once again you don't have to justify anything to me as why you bought them. No need to get emotional, everything will be allllrrriiiggghhht.

I didn't give you input, I gave you a compliment, FYA. I said they look good on your car, so take that for what it's worth.

[camaro_RS]

Not usually a huge fan of chrome on RY but those look pretty good! Nicely done.

[KMPrenger]

FinallySatisfied, you gave him an underhanded compliment and you know it...which is a douche move.

Bee...the wheels look good. I considered a set myself, but in the end I wanted the 10 spoke ZL1 wheels which for some reason GM has worked hard to shut down reproductions of those wheels. Factory Reproductions is releasing a wheel in May which is pretty close, in many sizes and finishes and at a great price. Thats where I'm heading!

[01pewterz28]

I like them in Chrome they look great on your ride.

[jameslk55]

The wheels look good but the chrome does not match the rest of your car's black and yellow theme. I think these wheels in black would've been better. Only the center caps match.

[bee sting]

Black Chrome would have been my 1st choice but no one is making them . Yes the theme is Black and Yellow but I just see so many with Black wheels . Figured I'd try something Different .
Anyway thanks for everyone's input good or bad .

[BrainleSS]

I like them, and if you do too, that is all that matters!

[inferno camaro]

Looks better than GM's semi polish or painted wheel in my opinion.

[Fish-man]

Originally Posted by wyd_trkr

Fish-Man. Sorry to have to interject into this good conversation, however, Every Vehicle on the Road made by every Auto Manufacturer, be it Foreign or Domestic has all their OEM Wheels made in China! By having them made in China, this also gives the Aftermarket a chance to make a Replica or a Styled Type Wheel and the Federal Court System Cannot and nor Will Not Prosecute , nor put a "Cease and Desist Order" on whomever is making these type wheels!

Look around you, as everything being "Invented" is being copied and reproduced all over the world, as I currently type! The Clincher here is, that these Aftermarket Wheels can look exactly like the factory ones, but if they use the Important Legal Term called either "Replica or Style" and someone tries to take them into a court of Law, forget it, as the Federal Court System will Laugh the Case right out of the Room! This is the way things have been within the last 3 to 4 years for Automobile Wheels not still being made in this country, as it is costing the Auto Manufacturer half the cost to get the Chinese to make them, verses to make them inside the good ole USA.

Look at Enkei Wheel Corporation, they have been making GM Wheels for the past 20 something years, but not anymore, they are made in China with an OEM Factory Designation on them. Also, for those of you that do not know this 90% of all Aftermarket Wheel are all made in China as well. Look at TSW Wheels, as I have owned 3 sets of their chrome wheels over the last 5 years and 2 years ago they stopped manufacturing them in California, as they too, also found that they could get them manufactured in China for less than 1/2 the cost of making them in house!

Fancy that! Now, gentlemen, enjoy your Factory Stamped Aftermarket OEM or Replica/Style Wheels, as they ALL are the "Same Exact" Production Casting as to what some others seem to think that it is FACTORY and FACTORY is no longer FACTORY, they all are made in China! Hope this helps!

Sorry to interject on your interjection, but your statements are not completely accurate.
There are still wheels made in the USA... granted not many, but some. ZL1 wheels are made (forged) by Alcoa... this is known , but you can read on the back of the rim...And, last I talked to my friend there, located in Ohio. Replica anything ZL1 that I have read about here are castings-likely China... so factory cannot equal oem here. Also know for a fact that oem does a ton more testing than most aftmkt. Doesn't automatically make aftmkt junk... just that you really don't know.

Now, I don't know a bit about court procedings/laws, etc but I would guess that since the outfits that advertised here got the cease & desist orders, there was a way around it.

The point of my post was to say simply that if one that is stealthy and doesn't come adverise on a public forum where everyone knows GM watches... may be sucessful in getting their wheels sold to folks... at least short term.

[wyd_trkr]

Originally Posted by Fish-man

Sorry to interject on your interjection, but your statements are not completely accurate.
There are still wheels made in the USA... granted not many, but some. ZL1 wheels are made by Alcoa... this is known , but you can read on the back of the rim...And, last I talked to my friend there, located in Ohio. Replica anything ZL1 that I have read about here are Chinese castings... so factory cannot equal oem here. Also know for a fact that oem does a ton more testing than most aftmkt. Doesn't automatically make aftmkt junk... just that you really don't know.

Now, I don't know a bit about court procedings/laws, etc but I would guess that since the outfits that advertised here got the cease & desist orders, there was a way around it.

The point of my post was to say simply that if one that is stealthy and doesn't come adverise on a public forum where everyone knows GM watches... may be sucessful in getting their wheels sold to folks... at least short term.

TRUE to what I already mentioned, that 90% of the wheels for all manufactures are made in China, as well as using Alcoa Aluminum in their manufacturing process! However, what you are stating is the other 10% and just maybe the Factory 2012-2013 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Wheels just might be made in this country, but to date there is no positive proof of that anywhere, even if they are an Alcoa product, as that material can be purchased from any country that wants to purchase it for manufacturing of anything pertaining to Aluminum Productivity of any Part or Parts!

Alcoa products are also made in China and that is a fact, as several Truck companies use theses Chinese wheels on their Tractor Trailers here in this country. Reason again, is called cost effectiveness and all these Auto Manufactures Do Not make all the parts for any specific vehicle in this country, as they are made everywhere, be it Korea, China, Japan, Tailand, Mexico , South America wherever! There is no such thing today as a Vehicle being mass produced that is ALL AMERICAN, however it is All American Built! No Arguement there for sure!

Back to your other statement, 99% of all Known Automobile Aftermarket Wheel Manufacturers Advertise on Ebay or Amazon.com, instead of on the Car Enthusiast Forums, unless the other Aftermarket Specialty Companies on these Forums Offer other Wheel Products etc.

Again, anybody can reproduce or copy anything out here today when it pertains to manufacturing in the form of a "Replica or Style" words in their manufacturing and get away with it, as their Advertising is NOT stating it is indeed an EXACT Copy of their wheel or wheels!

The Only "Legal Patent" in this Country that would "Prevent & Protect" something like that from happening would be for a Manufacturer to Obtain a "Utility Patent" from the US Patent Office in Washington, D.C. and if those products are Duplicated and Sold to be the "Technical Name", then the "Registered Patent Holder can "Prosecute" against any and all companies copying their Identical Product with the same "Identical Product Description" attached to it! Hope this helps, as this has been investigated by others over the years and been proven to be very accurate information!

[Fish-man]

Originally Posted by wyd_trkr

TRUE to what I already mentioned, that 90% of the wheels for all manufactures are made in China, as well as usng Alcao Aluminum in their manufacturing process! However, what you are stating is the other 10% and just maybe the Factory 2012-2013 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Wheels just might be made in this country, but to date there is no positive proof of that anywhere, even if they are an Alcoa product, as that material can be purchased from any country that wants to purchase it for manufacturing of anything pertaining to Aluminum Productivity of any Part or Parts!

Alcoa products are also made in China and that is a fact, as several Truck companies use theses Chinese wheels on their Tractor Trailers here in this country. Reason again, is called cost effectiveness and all these Auto Manufactures Do Not make all the parts for any specific vehicle in this country, as they are made everywhere, be it Korea, China, Japan, Tailand, Mexico , South America wherever! There is no such thing today as a Vehicle being mass produced that is ALL AMERICAN, however it is All American Built! No Arguement there for sure!

Back to your other statement, 99% of all Known Automobile Aftermarket Wheel Manufacturers Advertise on Ebay or Amazon.com, instead of on the Car Enthusiast Forums, unless the other Aftermarket Specialty Companies on these Forums Offer other Wheel Products etc.

Again, anybody can reproduce or copy anything out here today when it pertains to manufacturing in the form of a "Replica or Style" words in their manufacturing and get away with it, as their Advertising is NOT stating it is indeed an EXACT Copy of their wheel or wheels!

The Only "Legal Patent" in this Country that would "Provent & Protect" something like that from happening would be for a Manufacturer to Obtain a "Utility Patent" from the US Patent Office in Washington, D.C. and if those products are Duplicated and Sold to be the "Technical Name", then the "Registered Patent Holder can "Prosecute" against any and all companies copying their Identical Product with the same "Identical Product Description" attached to it! Hope this helps, as this has been investigated by others over the years and been proven to be very accurate information!

No doubt there isn't any car made that has 100% of parts sourced/built in country. No argument there. But to be fair, your first paragraph did say "all China" for oe wheels. I wont imply any % of US made wheels... although i know it is low. Its a global economy now. No getting around it.

ZL1 wheels are made in USA. You can find pics of the printing on the rim here... and I know this from my friend that works there. I will ask him about the china alcoa truck wheels... I don't know much about that to be honest.

Again, not sure about legalese... but suspect deep pockets just can put someone smaller in a position that they give up... right or wrong... regardless of industry/situation.