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'10CamaroDude · 08-13-2020, 05:23 AM

The problem with the wrong stand-alone cooler is, the temps will change drastically
when moving, to idle. You need one that is almost the entire length of the rad, and
about 4" tall for a stand alone cooler. Going to the rad first, stabilizes the fluid from
the trans, then out the rad through the cooler drops the temps. You want to be on
the 160 to 180 range for temps.My Mustang has a stand alone cooler, but it's 3/4" the
length of the radiator, and 4" tall. Temps spike to 192 at idle, and are at about 173
cruising.

People add a thermostat to the cooler, so the temp has a basement temp, but why?
You can use the existing radiator cooler to keep the temp stabilized, then the 2ndary
cooling after that.

You all should monitor your trans fluid temps with stand alone cooler that small, make
sure it doesn't go too high.

I am not saying anyone F'd up, but you need a good cooler used as a stand-alone.

The BOTTOM one is a typical factory stand alone. The top is a much better
aftermarket. Same length, just a lot taller.

If I were to add one to my Camaro, I am going to add it to the output side of the
rad so I always have a baseline temperature.

Hulk · 08-13-2020, 06:35 AM

My opinion has always been to run through the radiator first as you can not get the same heat transfer with air as you can with the water. This also helps with warming the fluid when cold. Then out to the air cooler and back to the trans. This has worked well for me.

havelegs · 08-13-2020, 07:23 AM

The adm kit has block offs for the radiator. I have to figure out how to run the lines from outlet of rad to the cooler back to the inlet. I don't think I have the hoses for that.

olblue75 · 08-13-2020, 09:45 PM

So what about us manual guys will we have the issues?? Really wanting a cooler for my TR6060.

havelegs · 08-15-2020, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooter18155

How big of a cooler would you say is big enough for a stand alone unit? I would think stand alone unit would be ideal so temp of engine coolant doesn’t affect trans temp and vice Vera. Or do you think I’m over thinking that?

Also which hose out of the radiator is the return line to the trans? Pass side or drivers side hose?

I too would like to know which side the inlet is. I'd assume driver's side as that is where the coolant enters but I'm not sure.

'10CamaroDude · 08-15-2020, 12:25 AM

Sitting in the car, Inlet is the right line, outlet is the left line.

Mine also has a power steering cooler on the right side of the rad, so you can
also add a P/S fluid cooler. I had one to use, I can't find it now...

havelegs · 08-17-2020, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by '10CamaroDude

Sitting in the car, Inlet is the right line, outlet is the left line.

Mine also has a power steering cooler on the right side of the rad, so you can
also add a P/S fluid cooler. I had one to use, I can't find it now...

So the flow is opposite of the coolant inlet? The coolant inlet is on the driver's side top.

Scooter18155 · 08-17-2020, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by '10CamaroDude

Sitting in the car, Inlet is the right line, outlet is the left line.

Mine also has a power steering cooler on the right side of the rad, so you can
also add a P/S fluid cooler. I had one to use, I can't find it now...

Sorry Camaro dude I find this confusing the way you described it. Is what I mean is inlet is the right line if your Sitting in driving seat is fine but inlet to the radiator im assuming? Or inlet to trans?

So the way I’m reading Your description is you leave the pass side transmission line hooked up as is and you would connect the trans cooler between the transmission and the radiator on the drivers side transmission line. Correct?

havelegs · 08-18-2020, 09:28 AM

Ok so is the bottom left or the bottom right side the inlet? This should make it very less confusing.

olblue75 · 08-18-2020, 11:17 AM

Bottom right is inlet and bottom left is outlet.

'10CamaroDude · 08-18-2020, 04:55 PM

I also have a right side TOP and BOTTOM, for the power steering fluid.

havelegs · 08-18-2020, 06:52 PM

Why would the flow be opposite of what the coolant is? I'm not sure of that makes sense. The inlet of the coolant would be on the top left and returns on the bottom.

'10CamaroDude · 08-19-2020, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by havelegs

Why would the flow be opposite of what the coolant is? I'm not sure of that makes sense. The inlet of the coolant would be on the top left and returns on the bottom.

And that's important, why?

Doesn't matter how the coolant flows. Older cars with the side tanks for
trans lines, go top to bottom, so what's that mean?

In fact, the RAD is the same way. Coolant goes in the TOP of one side,
then back into the motor at the bottom, of the other side. SO, not
only does it flow from one side to the other, it's UP to DOWN. With the
coolest portion of the fluid being at the bottom right side. Therefore,
putting the FROM trans line to that side, is the coolest point, then out the
other side to return to the trans. There are no cooling fins or veins for
the trans fluid, it is a heat exchanger. Trans fluid is put to the temperature
of the coolant, then out. Therefore, you have a baseline for the trans
temp. Putting the AUX cooler on after, cools additionally.

havelegs · 08-19-2020, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by '10CamaroDude

And that's important, why?

Doesn't matter how the coolant flows. Older cars with the side tanks for
trans lines, go top to bottom, so what's that mean?

In fact, the RAD is the same way. Coolant goes in the TOP of one side,
then back into the motor at the bottom, of the other side. SO, not
only does it flow from one side to the other, it's UP to DOWN. With the
coolest portion of the fluid being at the bottom right side. Therefore,
putting the FROM trans line to that side, is the coolest point, then out the
other side to return to the trans. There are no cooling fins or veins for
the trans fluid, it is a heat exchanger. Trans fluid is put to the temperature
of the coolant, then out. Therefore, you have a baseline for the trans
temp. Putting the AUX cooler on after, cools additionally.

OK thanks for the explanation

08-13-2020, 06:35 AM	#16
Hulk Drives: 2011 Synenergy Green 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Pueblo, Co Posts: 557	My opinion has always been to run through the radiator first as you can not get the same heat transfer with air as you can with the water. This also helps with warming the fluid when cold. Then out to the air cooler and back to the trans. This has worked well for me. __________________ 2011 Synenergy Green 2SS/RS Automatic.

08-13-2020, 07:23 AM	#17
havelegs Drives: '23 LT1 A10 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 988	The adm kit has block offs for the radiator. I have to figure out how to run the lines from outlet of rad to the cooler back to the inlet. I don't think I have the hoses for that. __________________ 24 LT1 M6 Sharkskin Metallic Last edited by havelegs; 08-13-2020 at 06:59 PM.

08-13-2020, 09:45 PM	#18
olblue75 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Clarksville Tennesse. Posts: 6,064	So what about us manual guys will we have the issues?? Really wanting a cooler for my TR6060. __________________ Orange Krush II 1LE Front sway bar, Splitter, shocks and struts, Z28 dual mode mufflers, Intake, UCA Bushings, and Toresen 3.91 Diff. 1 piece DSS Drive Shaft, ZL1/C7 Calipers, and 32mm JPSS Rear Bar. ASC race spec splitter and wicker. 6th Gen M017 Wheels. Stainless Works 1 7/8 LTs. DSE and PAFDT Suspension components.

08-18-2020, 11:17 AM	#24
olblue75 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Clarksville Tennesse. Posts: 6,064	Bottom right is inlet and bottom left is outlet. __________________ Orange Krush II 1LE Front sway bar, Splitter, shocks and struts, Z28 dual mode mufflers, Intake, UCA Bushings, and Toresen 3.91 Diff. 1 piece DSS Drive Shaft, ZL1/C7 Calipers, and 32mm JPSS Rear Bar. ASC race spec splitter and wicker. 6th Gen M017 Wheels. Stainless Works 1 7/8 LTs. DSE and PAFDT Suspension components.

08-18-2020, 06:52 PM	#26
havelegs Drives: '23 LT1 A10 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 988	Why would the flow be opposite of what the coolant is? I'm not sure of that makes sense. The inlet of the coolant would be on the top left and returns on the bottom. __________________ 24 LT1 M6 Sharkskin Metallic

08-13-2020, 05:23 AM	#15
'10CamaroDude Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro LS Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Pgh Posts: 739 View My Garage	The problem with the wrong stand-alone cooler is, the temps will change drastically when moving, to idle. You need one that is almost the entire length of the rad, and about 4" tall for a stand alone cooler. Going to the rad first, stabilizes the fluid from the trans, then out the rad through the cooler drops the temps. You want to be on the 160 to 180 range for temps.My Mustang has a stand alone cooler, but it's 3/4" the length of the radiator, and 4" tall. Temps spike to 192 at idle, and are at about 173 cruising. People add a thermostat to the cooler, so the temp has a basement temp, but why? You can use the existing radiator cooler to keep the temp stabilized, then the 2ndary cooling after that. You all should monitor your trans fluid temps with stand alone cooler that small, make sure it doesn't go too high. I am not saying anyone F'd up, but you need a good cooler used as a stand-alone. The BOTTOM one is a typical factory stand alone. The top is a much better aftermarket. Same length, just a lot taller. If I were to add one to my Camaro, I am going to add it to the output side of the rad so I always have a baseline temperature.

08-15-2020, 12:25 AM	#20
'10CamaroDude Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro LS Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Pgh Posts: 739 View My Garage	Sitting in the car, Inlet is the right line, outlet is the left line. Mine also has a power steering cooler on the right side of the rad, so you can also add a P/S fluid cooler. I had one to use, I can't find it now...

08-18-2020, 09:28 AM	#23
havelegs Drives: '23 LT1 A10 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 988	Ok so is the bottom left or the bottom right side the inlet? This should make it very less confusing.

08-18-2020, 04:55 PM	#25
'10CamaroDude Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro LS Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Pgh Posts: 739 View My Garage	I also have a right side TOP and BOTTOM, for the power steering fluid.