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Lio Martinez · 03-10-2014, 04:35 PM

Ok so I finally decided to go ahead and do a Cam on the 1LE since the shop is gonna change waste gates springs and increase boost to 8 PSi I decided to do a Cam as well.

At first I wanted something really mild. But then I thought if I'm investing all this money might as well make it work. So I contacted a Comp rep and he was really helpful and did two Custom Comp cam grinds for me the first one was this one

And then I thought about it and decided I wanted a more chopping idle so he created it this one

The second one I will need Dual valve springs with seats and retainers. I want a 3 bolt cam so I'll have to get a 3 boot conversion kit, New push rods etc..

I know very little about cams. This car is a daily driver but I want the most power I can get. What do you guys think of the second Cam set up!?

AGP Turbo · 03-10-2014, 05:10 PM

IMO don't bother with ether. The gains will be the equivalent of turning the boost up 1-2psi. And you could just turn the boost up for free.

Unreal · 03-10-2014, 05:26 PM

I've never been impressed with comps recommendations. Contact Pat G or Ed Curtis for cam specs. I ran a comp spec'd cam once, and honestly it sucked.

BullF-16 · 03-10-2014, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Unreal

I've never been impressed with comps recommendations. Contact Pat G or Ed Curtis for cam specs. I ran a comp spec'd cam once, and honestly it sucked.

Don't know Ed Curtis, I'm sure he is great. I do know Pat Guerra aka PatG is awesome. patrick@guerragroup.com

Just tell Pat what you want and goals and future goals and he will set it up! Tell him I sent you....if you decide on him.

old motorhead · 03-10-2014, 06:50 PM

As mentioned, you can get the power you want by adjusting the boost. The first cam is -8 degrees of overlap vs the second cam's 0 degrees. Fairly big difference in drivability there. Also, as mentioned, get someone other than Comp to spec you a cam. It's a crap shoot when you call them as to whether the guy you're talking to has a clue. I do like the sound that a mild performance cam gives you. Something between the two cams you mentioned would be where I'd want to be. Negative 3 or 4 degrees of overlap is my sweet spot on an LS3.

Allanski · 03-10-2014, 06:56 PM

I have this cam out of my turbo for sale:
Custom turbo cam
DURATION INTAKE 250 EXHAUST 252
ROCKER ARM RATIO 1.8 GROSS LIFT .624
LOBE SEPARATION 117

Asking only $200 plus shipping $40

It is a custom cam that the shop had built for my stock engine we parted out.

PM me if interested.

BooSSted · 03-10-2014, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Unreal

I've never been impressed with comps recommendations. Contact Pat G or Ed Curtis for cam specs. I ran a comp spec'd cam once, and honestly it sucked.

Lio Martinez · 03-10-2014, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by old motorhead

As mentioned, you can get the power you want by adjusting the boost. The first cam is -8 degrees of overlap vs the second cam's 0 degrees. Fairly big difference in drivability there. Also, as mentioned, get someone other than Comp to spec you a cam. It's a crap shoot when you call them as to whether the guy you're talking to has a clue. I do like the sound that a mild performance cam gives you. Something between the two cams you mentioned would be where I'd want to be. Negative 3 or 4 degrees of overlap is my sweet spot on an LS3.

What do the degrees if overlap mean?

Lio Martinez · 03-10-2014, 08:45 PM

I really want a cam that has a nice kick but can still be driven everyday...

Unreal · 03-10-2014, 08:51 PM

Overlap is how much time (in degrees) both the intake and exhaust valve are open. Like I said, talk to Pat G or Ed Curtis. They are the LS cam experts. I wouldn't run either one of those in your car, but that is me. Plus what lobes are those on? Comp typically like to recommend super aggressive lobes that kill valve springs/etc quickly.

Lio Martinez · 03-10-2014, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Unreal

Overlap is how much time (in degrees) both the intake and exhaust valve are open. Like I said, talk to Pat G or Ed Curtis. They are the LS cam experts. I wouldn't run either one of those in your car, but that is me. Plus what lobes are those on? Comp typically like to recommend super aggressive lobes that kill valve springs/etc quickly.

How different is a Comp cam to a Night fury cam?

Unreal · 03-10-2014, 09:05 PM

Comp is a brand of cams, night fury is one companies name of a cam that could be a comp cam, could be a different brand, just depends on who grinds it.

prdi · 03-11-2014, 03:15 PM

im not a fan of the night fury cam... seems like all their cams lethal installs is called a night fury cam lol...dont see how the same cam specs work in EVERY type of car lol.. all they do is change the LSA to the different applications which to me is bull...

prdi · 03-11-2014, 03:18 PM

the advantage of a pat g cam is it is on EPS lobes which keeps the valve train happy. Comps usually do there cams on an aggressive lobe which causes fast wear on valve train parts.. and the EPS cam is cut by cam motion. So no worries about bad cam core like which happens with comp or bad lobes or anything like that.

03-10-2014, 04:35 PM	#1
Lio Martinez Account Suspended Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS RS 1LE IMO Turbo Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Oxnard. CA Posts: 1,747 View My Garage	Need help on this CAM for my turbo 1LE Ok so I finally decided to go ahead and do a Cam on the 1LE since the shop is gonna change waste gates springs and increase boost to 8 PSi I decided to do a Cam as well. At first I wanted something really mild. But then I thought if I'm investing all this money might as well make it work. So I contacted a Comp rep and he was really helpful and did two Custom Comp cam grinds for me the first one was this one And then I thought about it and decided I wanted a more chopping idle so he created it this one The second one I will need Dual valve springs with seats and retainers. I want a 3 bolt cam so I'll have to get a 3 boot conversion kit, New push rods etc.. I know very little about cams. This car is a daily driver but I want the most power I can get. What do you guys think of the second Cam set up!?

03-10-2014, 05:26 PM	#3
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	I've never been impressed with comps recommendations. Contact Pat G or Ed Curtis for cam specs. I ran a comp spec'd cam once, and honestly it sucked. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

03-10-2014, 08:51 PM	#10
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Overlap is how much time (in degrees) both the intake and exhaust valve are open. Like I said, talk to Pat G or Ed Curtis. They are the LS cam experts. I wouldn't run either one of those in your car, but that is me. Plus what lobes are those on? Comp typically like to recommend super aggressive lobes that kill valve springs/etc quickly. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

03-10-2014, 09:05 PM	#12
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Comp is a brand of cams, night fury is one companies name of a cam that could be a comp cam, could be a different brand, just depends on who grinds it. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

03-10-2014, 05:10 PM	#2
AGP Turbo Drives: All things Turbocharged Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: AZ Posts: 1,199	IMO don't bother with ether. The gains will be the equivalent of turning the boost up 1-2psi. And you could just turn the boost up for free.

03-10-2014, 06:50 PM	#5
old motorhead Drives: Maggie blown LS3 vette Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SE TX Posts: 1,490	As mentioned, you can get the power you want by adjusting the boost. The first cam is -8 degrees of overlap vs the second cam's 0 degrees. Fairly big difference in drivability there. Also, as mentioned, get someone other than Comp to spec you a cam. It's a crap shoot when you call them as to whether the guy you're talking to has a clue. I do like the sound that a mild performance cam gives you. Something between the two cams you mentioned would be where I'd want to be. Negative 3 or 4 degrees of overlap is my sweet spot on an LS3.

03-10-2014, 06:56 PM	#6
Allanski Drives: Car Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Burlington Ontario Canada Posts: 750 View My Garage	I have this cam out of my turbo for sale: Custom turbo cam DURATION INTAKE 250 EXHAUST 252 ROCKER ARM RATIO 1.8 GROSS LIFT .624 LOBE SEPARATION 117 Asking only $200 plus shipping $40 It is a custom cam that the shop had built for my stock engine we parted out. PM me if interested.

03-10-2014, 08:45 PM	#9
Lio Martinez Account Suspended Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS RS 1LE IMO Turbo Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Oxnard. CA Posts: 1,747 View My Garage	I really want a cam that has a nice kick but can still be driven everyday...

03-11-2014, 03:15 PM	#13
prdi Drives: CTS-V Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Online Posts: 53	im not a fan of the night fury cam... seems like all their cams lethal installs is called a night fury cam lol...dont see how the same cam specs work in EVERY type of car lol.. all they do is change the LSA to the different applications which to me is bull...

03-11-2014, 03:18 PM	#14
prdi Drives: CTS-V Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Online Posts: 53	the advantage of a pat g cam is it is on EPS lobes which keeps the valve train happy. Comps usually do there cams on an aggressive lobe which causes fast wear on valve train parts.. and the EPS cam is cut by cam motion. So no worries about bad cam core like which happens with comp or bad lobes or anything like that.