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SolomonAKOO · 02-22-2013, 10:54 PM

So im looking at getting this cam shaft kit for my 2011 Camaro SS M6. is there anyone that has this kit or cam? If so how do you like it. Also i was wondering if anyone could help me with what pushrods and rocker arms i could use with this kit as they are not included in the kit. Thanks for the help and any input. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cc...make/chevrolet

Nightmare2012 · 02-22-2013, 11:22 PM

Pushrods aren't predetermined you have to have your engine builder measure them and rocker arms i personally went with just the trunion upgrade thinking bout later going with comp cams roller rocker arms

SolomonAKOO · 02-22-2013, 11:30 PM

Oh well I was planning on doing the install myself. And getting a tune from JRE. Guess it's not easy as that then huh.

SSMickey · 02-22-2013, 11:31 PM

I would recommend replacing your oil pump while your in there as well as your chain tensioner. You also don't need to replace your lifters. Your OE LS3 lifters are fine. Have you looked at some other websites at there complete cam kits? Vengeance and Jennety have kits with everything you need and nothing you don't.

SSMickey · 02-22-2013, 11:34 PM

A lot of the better builders have done there combos so often, they know what pushrod length to use. If your not going to go that route though, yes, you need to measure for the correct pushrod length after the install is done, then order the right ones.

SolomonAKOO · 02-22-2013, 11:38 PM

Yeah I've looked at a few of the Jannety packages but that's about it. Who would you suggest as far as buying a complete package from?

SSMickey · 02-22-2013, 11:46 PM

I only have personal experience with Vengeance Racing, so I'm biased, but I have heard nothing but good things about Jennety, especially his remote tuning.

SolomonAKOO · 02-23-2013, 12:12 AM

Well I looked at the Vengeance racing LS3 cam kit plus and that looks like a hell of a deal. But what cam would you suggest if I want power from around 2000 rpms up to 6000. And also want great driveability since this is my daily driver.

Bo White · 02-23-2013, 12:49 AM

That cam won't do well with ls3 heads. 222/224 is better suited for cathedral ports.

Nightmare2012 · 02-23-2013, 01:45 AM

^ what he said that duration is alil too high for my liking if you want something aggressive but still driveable look at the night fury that what i went with and im just waiting on the install.

CAP'N B · 02-23-2013, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightmare2012

^ what he said that duration is alil too high for my liking if you want something aggressive but still driveable look at the night fury that what i went with and im just waiting on the install.

The duration on that cam is small for the LS3. Nightmare you must have been looking at the advertised duration . To compare apples to apples you need to look at the duration at .050. And then there are difference in lobe profiles so that may not be an equal comparison.

Ucantctchme · 02-23-2013, 05:34 AM

I installed the vengeance cam plus kit with their Kaotik cam. It's a little bigger than the night fury cam everyone talks about here. It makes great power and drives well. This is my daily driver. Vengeance also does remote tuning.

litle88 · 02-23-2013, 05:41 AM

OP that kit is no bueno it's a baby cam for an Ls1 or 5.3's in that area.

I've heard nothing but good things from the Ls3's about the nightfury cam.

As far as springs I've also heard about the Brian Tooley Platinum springs that have had a "0" fail rate for quite some time now.
http://www.briantooleyracing.com/660...retainers.html

As long as you don't mill the heads your pushrod length is gonna be a 7.4. You can get them all here as well.
http://www.briantooleyracing.com/pushrods/

As far as supporting mods what have you gotten so far?

Hope this helps.

rahallfly · 02-23-2013, 08:23 AM

I would look around at some of the build shops on here. There is a lot of talk going around with the Night fury and vengeance cams. they are larger cam. If you dont want something that large look for the intake duration somewhere around 225-227.

I have never put a cam in a car before 3 weeks ago. my brother has been in an LS engine a few times and we just put in the cam i got. I ordered the VVT2 package from Texas speed. (for the L99 obviously) I thought everything was a great deal and texas speed is very knowledgeable and could answer any questions. I had to go with new lifters to replace the Displacement on Demand lifters that allow it to cut down to 4cyl but you dont have too.

I did not do the trunion upgrade from comp cams, i am still debating it, but there were a few (just a few of all sold) problems with them.

I have the LS2 Block tensioner new that came with the package if you need one i can mail it to you but if you get a package it should come with.

And last, If you are mechanically inclined and know your way around an engine, you can do this install because robertway did a DIY on the LS3 that is amazing!!

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125123

02-22-2013, 10:54 PM	#1
SolomonAKOO Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,210 View My Garage	Cam shaft help? So im looking at getting this cam shaft kit for my 2011 Camaro SS M6. is there anyone that has this kit or cam? If so how do you like it. Also i was wondering if anyone could help me with what pushrods and rocker arms i could use with this kit as they are not included in the kit. Thanks for the help and any input. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cc...make/chevrolet __________________ 1 7/8" TSP headers straight piped, Custom Tick Performance cam w/ supporting mods, 1" BMR springs and other BMR suspension mods. Tuned with HPtuners by Matt@FSP

02-22-2013, 11:30 PM	#3
SolomonAKOO Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,210 View My Garage	Oh well I was planning on doing the install myself. And getting a tune from JRE. Guess it's not easy as that then huh. __________________ 1 7/8" TSP headers straight piped, Custom Tick Performance cam w/ supporting mods, 1" BMR springs and other BMR suspension mods. Tuned with HPtuners by Matt@FSP

02-22-2013, 11:31 PM	#4
SSMickey Drives: 2010 IBM 2SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Columbia S.C. Posts: 1,455 View My Garage	I would recommend replacing your oil pump while your in there as well as your chain tensioner. You also don't need to replace your lifters. Your OE LS3 lifters are fine. Have you looked at some other websites at there complete cam kits? Vengeance and Jennety have kits with everything you need and nothing you don't. __________________ ProCharger P1X, Vengeance Racing Kaotic Cam, ARH Headers and Exhaust with Borla ATAK mufflers, MGW Shifter, MTI Drop Springs, Forgeline RB3C Wheels, 3.91 gears, Night Owl LED Control System

02-22-2013, 11:34 PM	#5
SSMickey Drives: 2010 IBM 2SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Columbia S.C. Posts: 1,455 View My Garage	A lot of the better builders have done there combos so often, they know what pushrod length to use. If your not going to go that route though, yes, you need to measure for the correct pushrod length after the install is done, then order the right ones. __________________ ProCharger P1X, Vengeance Racing Kaotic Cam, ARH Headers and Exhaust with Borla ATAK mufflers, MGW Shifter, MTI Drop Springs, Forgeline RB3C Wheels, 3.91 gears, Night Owl LED Control System

02-22-2013, 11:38 PM	#6
SolomonAKOO Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,210 View My Garage	Yeah I've looked at a few of the Jannety packages but that's about it. Who would you suggest as far as buying a complete package from? __________________ 1 7/8" TSP headers straight piped, Custom Tick Performance cam w/ supporting mods, 1" BMR springs and other BMR suspension mods. Tuned with HPtuners by Matt@FSP

02-22-2013, 11:22 PM	#2
Nightmare2012 come find out;) Drives: stockish 2012 camaro ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: speed county Posts: 2,166 View My Garage	Pushrods aren't predetermined you have to have your engine builder measure them and rocker arms i personally went with just the trunion upgrade thinking bout later going with comp cams roller rocker arms

02-22-2013, 11:46 PM	#7
SSMickey Drives: 2010 IBM 2SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Columbia S.C. Posts: 1,455 View My Garage	I only have personal experience with Vengeance Racing, so I'm biased, but I have heard nothing but good things about Jennety, especially his remote tuning. __________________ ProCharger P1X, Vengeance Racing Kaotic Cam, ARH Headers and Exhaust with Borla ATAK mufflers, MGW Shifter, MTI Drop Springs, Forgeline RB3C Wheels, 3.91 gears, Night Owl LED Control System

02-23-2013, 12:12 AM	#8
SolomonAKOO Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,210 View My Garage	Well I looked at the Vengeance racing LS3 cam kit plus and that looks like a hell of a deal. But what cam would you suggest if I want power from around 2000 rpms up to 6000. And also want great driveability since this is my daily driver. __________________ 1 7/8" TSP headers straight piped, Custom Tick Performance cam w/ supporting mods, 1" BMR springs and other BMR suspension mods. Tuned with HPtuners by Matt@FSP

02-23-2013, 12:49 AM	#9
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	That cam won't do well with ls3 heads. 222/224 is better suited for cathedral ports. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

02-23-2013, 01:45 AM	#10
Nightmare2012 come find out;) Drives: stockish 2012 camaro ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: speed county Posts: 2,166 View My Garage	^ what he said that duration is alil too high for my liking if you want something aggressive but still driveable look at the night fury that what i went with and im just waiting on the install.

02-23-2013, 05:34 AM	#12
Ucantctchme Drives: 2010 ss. 1990 RS the faster one. Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Orlando Posts: 549	I installed the vengeance cam plus kit with their Kaotik cam. It's a little bigger than the night fury cam everyone talks about here. It makes great power and drives well. This is my daily driver. Vengeance also does remote tuning. __________________ Vararam, XS Power longtubes and exhaust with Magnaflow mufflers, 1LE gears, Vengeance Racing spec'd comp cam with all supporting valvetrain upgrades, Melling Pump. QTP cutouts. 480rwhp.

02-23-2013, 05:41 AM	#13
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	OP that kit is no bueno it's a baby cam for an Ls1 or 5.3's in that area. I've heard nothing but good things from the Ls3's about the nightfury cam. As far as springs I've also heard about the Brian Tooley Platinum springs that have had a "0" fail rate for quite some time now. http://www.briantooleyracing.com/660...retainers.html As long as you don't mill the heads your pushrod length is gonna be a 7.4. You can get them all here as well. http://www.briantooleyracing.com/pushrods/ As far as supporting mods what have you gotten so far? Hope this helps. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

02-23-2013, 08:23 AM	#14
rahallfly Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Mansfield Ohio Posts: 267	I would look around at some of the build shops on here. There is a lot of talk going around with the Night fury and vengeance cams. they are larger cam. If you dont want something that large look for the intake duration somewhere around 225-227. I have never put a cam in a car before 3 weeks ago. my brother has been in an LS engine a few times and we just put in the cam i got. I ordered the VVT2 package from Texas speed. (for the L99 obviously) I thought everything was a great deal and texas speed is very knowledgeable and could answer any questions. I had to go with new lifters to replace the Displacement on Demand lifters that allow it to cut down to 4cyl but you dont have too. I did not do the trunion upgrade from comp cams, i am still debating it, but there were a few (just a few of all sold) problems with them. I have the LS2 Block tensioner new that came with the package if you need one i can mail it to you but if you get a package it should come with. And last, If you are mechanically inclined and know your way around an engine, you can do this install because robertway did a DIY on the LS3 that is amazing!! http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125123 __________________ TSP VVT2, OBX LTs Catless mids, Flowmaster, Half K&N, Half Fastlane Pipeline CAI, Tuned by RDP Motorsports! Thats the main fun adders SHAKE ANNNNNNND BAKE!!!!!