1400 DSS Axles == Diff Leak - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

SizeMatters · 05-09-2011, 07:49 PM

Hey guys, long time reader, first time poster. I'm posting to see if anyone has experienced the Drive Shaft Shop axles not sealing properly in the differential housing.

The other day, smelling burning diff oil and seeing it all over the rear of my car I decided to put it on the lift and take a look. It seems that one of the axles was not inserted far enough into the diff case for the axle seal flange to seat against the seal itself. We tried several times to reinsert the axle but could never get it inserted far enough to seal. We ended up reinstalling the stock axles, which are sealing up just fine.

Any tips would be a big help!

kevin1106 · 05-09-2011, 07:59 PM

Idk what to say other than mine are fine. I put a lot of grease on them and when I was putting them in, I pushed them in about an inch, then quickly shoved them in. Pulled lightly on then to make sure they snapped into place. All is fine here. Sorry to hear about your problem. Without being there to look at them, I'm no help.

markssylver · 05-09-2011, 08:23 PM

Probobly when U pulled the stock axle out u might have nocked the little spring off of the axle seal causing it not to seal tightly around the axle

Driveshaftshop · 05-10-2011, 05:44 AM

Its possible you may not have gotten it all the way in to to start, We used to be a large rebuilder of CV axles at one time doing over 8000 a month. in the past when we have seen this problem (but never on a Camaro) the axle was not installed all the way to start and was driven on the small area of the spline past the snap ring (the little 1/8" of spline) this then would twist a little or tear and make it so the rest of the spline would not go in because they were out of alignment with each other. you could give us a call, we would help out......

Colby627 · 09-13-2011, 09:41 AM

I am having the same problem,, I have had the same axles for about 6 months, then all of a sudden the passenger side seal is leaking,, Called the local dealership here in Houston and NOBODY (dealers that is) in Houston has any,, even after calls to GM, they have none in stock and will not committ to when they may have some. So,,, an alert is being sent out to all dealers in the US to find one,, are any aftermarket seals available?

JANNETTYRACING · 09-13-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Colby627

I am having the same problem,, I have had the same axles for about 6 months, then all of a sudden the passenger side seal is leaking,, Called the local dealership here in Houston and NOBODY (dealers that is) in Houston has any,, even after calls to GM, they have none in stock and will not committ to when they may have some. So,,, an alert is being sent out to all dealers in the US to find one,, are any aftermarket seals available?

I have seals in stock.

ducatisl · 09-13-2011, 04:10 PM

Yep, those axle stub shaft seals are real easy to dork up.

topgun1 · 10-11-2011, 06:35 PM

Not on the DSS axles, but I have had this happen on the stock axle. I just had my leaking axle seals replaced under warranty last week. I noticed a couple months ago the oil that was on the back of my exhaust cut-outs which I have mounted just forward of the mufflers. I also know of several other new Camaros that have had the same issue. My mechanic who does the major work on my car has worked on 4 or 5 new Camaros and said he noticed it on all of them. I know to some degree, they can "bleed" which is normal, but not a leak. Everyone should check and make sure they do not have this problem, and get it repaired under warranty if you do if it's stock of course.

Merc · 10-12-2011, 07:16 AM

I had no issues with my DSS axels, however I bought the special Kent-Moore tool off Ebay to install mine just to be sure. Had no troubles to get a set of axel seals for the current diff build, dealer had them in less than a week.

JANNETTYRACING · 10-12-2011, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topgun1

Not on the DSS axles, but I have had this happen on the stock axle. I just had my leaking axle seals replaced under warranty last week. I noticed a couple months ago the oil that was on the back of my exhaust cut-outs which I have mounted just forward of the mufflers. I also know of several other new Camaros that have had the same issue. My mechanic who does the major work on my car has worked on 4 or 5 new Camaros and said he noticed it on all of them. I know to some degree, they can "bleed" which is normal, but not a leak. Everyone should check and make sure they do not have this problem, and get it repaired under warranty if you do if it's stock of course.

Over filling the diff is the most common reason the axle seals will leak.

MRGOODWRENCH3 · 10-15-2011, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markssylver

Probobly when U pulled the stock axle out u might have nocked the little spring off of the axle seal causing it not to seal tightly around the axle

X 2. I have seen this many times before. The DSS product is top quality and I do not think it is the source of your problem. I would look really close at the seal.

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 10-16-2011, 12:32 PM

Had to check the collover on the driver side and what do i find, a second rear collover leaking, and then i look and see lots of heavy grease on the exhaust pipe and all the way around, so what parts do i need to buy? no going to a dealer to many MI on the car.

yotaman96 · 12-01-2011, 03:05 AM

Both sides have leaked ever since I installed my DSS axles. I've put them in three times now trying to stop the leaking. How do you replace the axle seals?

Driveshaftshop · 12-01-2011, 04:58 PM

Its not the axles, the seal need to be changed. give Ted or any of the guys from Janetty a call. they will be able to help

05-09-2011, 07:49 PM	#1
SizeMatters Banned Drives: 2010 IOM Camaro SS/RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 3	1400 DSS Axles == Diff Leak Hey guys, long time reader, first time poster. I'm posting to see if anyone has experienced the Drive Shaft Shop axles not sealing properly in the differential housing. The other day, smelling burning diff oil and seeing it all over the rear of my car I decided to put it on the lift and take a look. It seems that one of the axles was not inserted far enough into the diff case for the axle seal flange to seat against the seal itself. We tried several times to reinsert the axle but could never get it inserted far enough to seal. We ended up reinstalling the stock axles, which are sealing up just fine. Any tips would be a big help!

09-13-2011, 04:10 PM	#7
ducatisl Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 2SS 6m Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Fort Walton Beach...surrounded by da** pickup trucks I can't see around! Posts: 692 View My Garage	Yep, those axle stub shaft seals are real easy to dork up. __________________ Procharged F1A-94 on a 416 LSA block, Callies/Manley/Scat/Melling/Cloyes/ARP/Ferrea/Landspeed/Hi-Ram/FIC/Tick/Alky/ Strange/QA1/DSS/BMR/RPS/Tilton/GZM/Fore/AEM/ATi/JGS etc., built/tuned by me and Innovative Street Technologies 'Mo's Seemingly Endless Build Thread

10-11-2011, 06:35 PM	#8
topgun1 Drives: 10 SIM 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 1,940 View My Garage	Not on the DSS axles, but I have had this happen on the stock axle. I just had my leaking axle seals replaced under warranty last week. I noticed a couple months ago the oil that was on the back of my exhaust cut-outs which I have mounted just forward of the mufflers. I also know of several other new Camaros that have had the same issue. My mechanic who does the major work on my car has worked on 4 or 5 new Camaros and said he noticed it on all of them. I know to some degree, they can "bleed" which is normal, but not a leak. Everyone should check and make sure they do not have this problem, and get it repaired under warranty if you do if it's stock of course. __________________ 5th Gen Camaros of the Carolinas SIM, 2SS/RS LS3 5/7/11 453.9 RWHP 427.5 RWTQ VMS Stage 2.5 Comp Cams kit, Cold Air Inductions intake, ADM race scoop, DT 1 3/4" headers, Solo cats, 3" Magnaflow catback, Pypes cutouts, HP tune, H&R SuperSport springs, Eibach sways/spacers, TexasSpeed UD pulley, LSR tensioner pulley, Barton shifter, skip shift eliminator, powder-coated calipers, R1 concept rotors, StopTech pads, Granatelli wires, Lloyds mats, tint, AAC afterburner taillamps, AAC scanner/sidemarkers, SRP pedals, custom engine cover, black bowties, Ridergraphix hood spears....

10-12-2011, 07:16 AM	#9
Merc In The Circle Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SSRS IOM M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Abbotsford BC Canada Posts: 11,291	I had no issues with my DSS axels, however I bought the special Kent-Moore tool off Ebay to install mine just to be sure. Had no troubles to get a set of axel seals for the current diff build, dealer had them in less than a week. Attached Images __________________ My Build Thread

12-01-2011, 03:05 AM	#13
yotaman96 Drives: 2017 Camaro SS1LE 2000 Trans Am WS6 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Portland, TN Posts: 2,955 View My Garage	Both sides have leaked ever since I installed my DSS axles. I've put them in three times now trying to stop the leaking. How do you replace the axle seals? __________________ 2017 Krypton Green SS 1LE Magnacharged 2000 Trans Am WS6 manual trans 2002 Trans Am 2015 Ram Crew Cab Cummins Last edited by yotaman96; 12-01-2011 at 08:59 PM.

05-09-2011, 07:59 PM	#2
kevin1106 Drives: 2015 ZO6 3LZ Stage 2 A8 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: La plata MD Posts: 2,299 View My Garage	Idk what to say other than mine are fine. I put a lot of grease on them and when I was putting them in, I pushed them in about an inch, then quickly shoved them in. Pulled lightly on then to make sure they snapped into place. All is fine here. Sorry to hear about your problem. Without being there to look at them, I'm no help.

05-09-2011, 08:23 PM	#3
markssylver Drives: 95 bbb impala ss Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: md Posts: 332	Probobly when U pulled the stock axle out u might have nocked the little spring off of the axle seal causing it not to seal tightly around the axle

05-10-2011, 05:44 AM	#4
Driveshaftshop Drives: own more cars than i can list Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 1,124	Its possible you may not have gotten it all the way in to to start, We used to be a large rebuilder of CV axles at one time doing over 8000 a month. in the past when we have seen this problem (but never on a Camaro) the axle was not installed all the way to start and was driven on the small area of the spline past the snap ring (the little 1/8" of spline) this then would twist a little or tear and make it so the rest of the spline would not go in because they were out of alignment with each other. you could give us a call, we would help out......

09-13-2011, 09:41 AM	#5
Colby627 Drives: 2010 2SS LSA-S/C 6.6 L Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Huffman, Texas Posts: 131 View My Garage	I am having the same problem,, I have had the same axles for about 6 months, then all of a sudden the passenger side seal is leaking,, Called the local dealership here in Houston and NOBODY (dealers that is) in Houston has any,, even after calls to GM, they have none in stock and will not committ to when they may have some. So,,, an alert is being sent out to all dealers in the US to find one,, are any aftermarket seals available?

10-16-2011, 12:32 PM	#12
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	Had to check the collover on the driver side and what do i find, a second rear collover leaking, and then i look and see lots of heavy grease on the exhaust pipe and all the way around, so what parts do i need to buy? no going to a dealer to many MI on the car.

12-01-2011, 04:58 PM	#14
Driveshaftshop Drives: own more cars than i can list Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 1,124	Its not the axles, the seal need to be changed. give Ted or any of the guys from Janetty a call. they will be able to help

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