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The SwiftChancelor · 02-24-2012, 06:38 PM

I got a couple guys I know that say that the stock GTO is faster than a stock SS. Their claim is because the Goat is lighter. Now of course they both own one so it makes sense they would say this. Of course I know this has been answered before, probably many times but what good is a forum if you cant ask questions, this is not a question. Besides if we just looked up all this information through past post and threads instead of making own it wouldn't be a forum, or it wouldn't be the informative Camaro forum that it is.

Anyways, to the real question which is faster stock? Thanks

RANGERGOD · 02-24-2012, 06:39 PM

Faster in what way? In the quarter? The Mustang's rear end will ensure that it puts out better 1/4 mile times.

*CamaroSpike23* · 02-24-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RANGERGOD

Faster in what way? In the quarter? The Mustang's rear end will ensure that it puts out better 1/4 mile times.

GTO = pontiac

not GT...lol

MaRoFreK · 02-24-2012, 06:52 PM

I think thats a drivers race. both are pretty close in numbers.

ULTRAZLS1 · 02-24-2012, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The SwiftChancelor

I got a couple guys I know that say that the stock GTO is faster than a stock SS. Their claim is because the Goat is lighter. Now of course they both own one so it makes sense they would say this. Of course I know this has been answered before, probably many times but what good is a forum if you cant ask questions, this is not a question. Besides if we just looked up all this information through past post and threads instead of making own it wouldn't be a forum, or it wouldn't be the informative Camaro forum that it is.

Anyways, to the real question which is faster stock? Thanks

L99 auto at 400hp and a GT0 6.0 ls2 at 400hp would be a very close race. Probably edge to the GTO. Better power to weight. But according to the fastest stock times the L99 has went just as quick as an ls2 GTO @ 12.8. Too close to call.

LS3 at 426 hp and ls2 GTO at 400hp would give a slight edge to the camaro. Manual camaro is 3860 lbs and GTO is like 3750 or so. LS3 has a better power to weight. 9.375 lb per hp for gto and 9.06 for ss ls3.

Cant really argue it...the fasest ever posted stock time for an ls3 5th gen is 12.5. The stock ls2 GTO has never gone 12.5 stock. 12.8 is the record I believe....and they have been around a lot longer.

So basically you are both right I suppose

Grabber · 02-24-2012, 07:53 PM

SS is def. the better machine.

One key reason is the trans difference and gearing. TR6060 > T-56 in many ways. The SS will put the power down more efficiently than a GTO will.

SS's are also top end machines and tend to trap a lot higher than even a well driven GTO.

SS > GTO.

fourmz · 02-24-2012, 08:46 PM

I've beat a 6.0 GTO the day after I brought my SS home, stock for stock. Close though.

MauriSSio · 02-24-2012, 09:05 PM

Stock fire stock the ls3 camaro is a tad faster. Expect maybe 1mph and 1 tenth quicker on average. L99 though is slower. You can't expect to weigh close to 200lbs more and produce the same power and expect to be faster.expect the l99 car to be slower by maybe 2mph and 2 tenths on average

MauriSSio · 02-24-2012, 09:08 PM

Vs an auto gto though expect it to be close. Better power to weight but worse gearing.

ULTRAZLS1 · 02-24-2012, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MauriSSio

Stock fire stock the ls3 camaro is a tad faster. Expect maybe 1mph and 1 tenth quicker on average. L99 though is slower. You can't expect to weigh close to 200lbs more and produce the same power and expect to be faster.expect the l99 car to be slower by maybe 2mph and 2 tenths on average

I would say it is closer to .2 -.3 tenths and 2-3mph advantage for the LS3 SS.

MauriSSio · 02-24-2012, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

I would say it is closer to .2 -.3 tenths and 2-3mph advantage for the LS3 SS.

Not from what I witness at the track. also, look at the numbers (and not hero runs) 25 less hp but also 100-150lbs less weight . The difference in performance is measurable, sorry but maybe not quite as much as you would like.

ULTRAZLS1 · 02-24-2012, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MauriSSio

Not from what I witness at the track. also, look at the numbers (and not hero runs) 25 less hp but also 100-150lbs less weight . The difference in performance is measurable, sorry but maybe not quite as much as you would like.

As much as I would like? I dont really care. My car wasnt stock 5 minutes lol

I was talking hero time vs hero time. 12.5 vs 12.8. Max potential for both cars shows a .3 tenth difference. Not really arguing just stating the facts. 3 years on the road and we have a camaro at 12.5 hero and 7 years on the road and we have the GTO at 12.8. Not sure whats to be argued or how I can be more fair.

YourBlindingBias · 02-25-2012, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RANGERGOD

Faster in what way? In the quarter? The Mustang's rear end will ensure that it puts out better 1/4 mile times.

Wrong car man.. lol

Rock36 · 02-25-2012, 08:14 AM

M6 to M6 would be pretty close, but the SS would have it with equal drivers and no mistakes. The gear ratios between a T-56 and TR6060 are nearly identical between an SS and 6.0L GTO.

The SS will generally take the GTO with its slightly better power-to-weight ratio, and a higher redline. Just don't get ****y and don't mess up.

The Goat might be lighter (not by that much), but the 26 extra hp from the LS3 makes up for it. Tell your buddies to do the math.

02-24-2012, 06:38 PM	#1
The SwiftChancelor Drives: SGM, 2011 2SS/RS, L99 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Wildcat Country Posts: 593 View My Garage	6.0 GTO faster than a SS, stock? I got a couple guys I know that say that the stock GTO is faster than a stock SS. Their claim is because the Goat is lighter. Now of course they both own one so it makes sense they would say this. Of course I know this has been answered before, probably many times but what good is a forum if you cant ask questions, this is not a question. Besides if we just looked up all this information through past post and threads instead of making own it wouldn't be a forum, or it wouldn't be the informative Camaro forum that it is. Anyways, to the real question which is faster stock? Thanks __________________ K&N air intake, Solo w/Jpipes axleback, SP 1 7/8 LT headers

02-24-2012, 06:39 PM	#2
RANGERGOD IDBZ M.C. Drives: 12' IOM, 2SS, LS3 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Columbus, Ga. Posts: 562	Faster in what way? In the quarter? The Mustang's rear end will ensure that it puts out better 1/4 mile times. __________________

02-24-2012, 06:52 PM	#4
MaRoFreK Drives: IOM 1SS w/factory Hurst Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Buckhannon, West Virginia Posts: 721	I think thats a drivers race. both are pretty close in numbers. __________________ "Success is following the pattern of life one enjoys most." Stainless works Catback with Flowmaster Single Chamber Mufflers, Vararam, Factory Hurst, SLP SS emblems, SLP Skip Shift

02-24-2012, 07:53 PM	#6
Grabber Just a car guy Drives: 2016 Durango R/T AWD Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Wheeling, IL Posts: 808	SS is def. the better machine. One key reason is the trans difference and gearing. TR6060 > T-56 in many ways. The SS will put the power down more efficiently than a GTO will. SS's are also top end machines and tend to trap a lot higher than even a well driven GTO. SS > GTO. __________________ 2016 Durango R/T AWD 2014 5.0 - Ported CobraJet Manifold - SCJ Mono-Blade TB - Kooks 1-3/4" LT Headers - Kooks O/R H-pipe - Custom Intake - McLeod clutch line - Borla S-Type Axle Backs - AED Tuned - 443 RWHP / 388 RWTQ - GONE 05 GT - Sold 03 Cobra - Gone (Never Forgotten)

02-24-2012, 08:46 PM	#7
fourmz Fourmz Drives: 2010 2SS/RS 1968 Firebird 1994 Z28 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Soldotna,Alaska Posts: 382	I've beat a 6.0 GTO the day after I brought my SS home, stock for stock. Close though. __________________ Black-in-Black/Blue out 2010 2SS/RS LS-3 -Magnacharger TVS2300,OD cog belt drive, 3.4" pulley, Janetty smooth idle blower cam,ID-850 injectors,ZL1 fuel pump,MSD boost a pump, ADM FPCM Janetty custom tune,Doug Thorley long tube headers, Corsa catback,C.A.I. Intake, Roto-Fab Big Gulp Scoop, Monster LT1/SC Clutch assembly,Eibach pro kit plus, BMR cradle/diff bushings, Barton Shifter,JRE 3.91 Eaton Tru-Trac rear diff,Barton Short Throw SHifter, Boss 339 20" wheels,Painted heritage grille, Sparks Restoration Inverted blue/black SS emblems, Seibon BB carbon fiber hood, ZL1 front bumper conversion.

02-24-2012, 09:05 PM	#8
MauriSSio Banned Drives: 1968 Ford Galaxie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Jose Posts: 630	Stock fire stock the ls3 camaro is a tad faster. Expect maybe 1mph and 1 tenth quicker on average. L99 though is slower. You can't expect to weigh close to 200lbs more and produce the same power and expect to be faster.expect the l99 car to be slower by maybe 2mph and 2 tenths on average

02-24-2012, 09:08 PM	#9
MauriSSio Banned Drives: 1968 Ford Galaxie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Jose Posts: 630	Vs an auto gto though expect it to be close. Better power to weight but worse gearing.

02-25-2012, 08:14 AM	#14
Rock36 I just like V8s Drives: 2007 Corvette Z06 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 919	M6 to M6 would be pretty close, but the SS would have it with equal drivers and no mistakes. The gear ratios between a T-56 and TR6060 are nearly identical between an SS and 6.0L GTO. The SS will generally take the GTO with its slightly better power-to-weight ratio, and a higher redline. Just don't get ****y and don't mess up. The Goat might be lighter (not by that much), but the 26 extra hp from the LS3 makes up for it. Tell your buddies to do the math. __________________ "Anyone know who sells the driver mods?" 2007 Corvette Z06: Le Mans blue, 2LZ

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