Rude Awakening : Lesson Learned - Drive Safe

[Maxspeed]

Was that the other guys Camaro in the background?

[jd10013]

Originally Posted by =Stephens=

The reason you would turn off traction control. If you were on snow or sand or a slick surface and you got stuck or can not move. Turning off the traction control would enable your tires to spin your way out of it.

Thanks

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by upflying

Insurance just went up a notch for all of us.

i think only if you live in the atlanta, GA area.

[dekan513]

price to me if u dont want it , ill fix that up no prob if u think its gone

[cmb74656]

By some strange coincidence, I clicked on this thread just as Spicoli was totaling the Z/28 on Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

Sorry about the car. Glad you're okay.

[007s 'Vert]

Originally Posted by cmb74656

By some strange coincidence, I clicked on this thread just as Spicoli was totaling the Z/28 on Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

Sorry about the car. Glad you're okay.

Ha Ha! "You just be glad I have fast reflexes"

I love that movie

[IROCanSS]

Originally Posted by jd10013

dumb question, why can it be turned off?

Because sometimes you want to actually control your car yourself and not rely on the car to do it. I personally always turn it off. I think the car runs like crap with it on. I just respect the fact my car has over 400 available horsepower at the rear wheels. It all about respect for the car.



Sent while on baby duty.... please sleep

[MaRoFreK]

glad your ok man

[pbretelson]

Glad you are ok. Cars can be replaced.

[Daily Driver]

Im sure its totaled, glad you are OK. At least you are man enough to admit fault. Hopefully everything works out for you and stay safe.

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by IROCanSS

Because sometimes you want to actually control your car yourself and not rely on the car to do it. I personally always turn it off. I think the car runs like crap with it on. I just respect the fact my car has over 400 available horsepower at the rear wheels. It all about respect for the car.



Sent while on baby duty.... please sleep

I'm not saying this to belittle you.....

...but if you think the car 'runs like crap' with it on - I'm thinking that you're breaking the rear tires loose with regularity - or there's something wrong with your traction control system.

I'm sure you saw the 'accident' at the Press event at V.I.R. -- You may have respect for the car - but there's a reason why they call it an 'accident' -- and for the life of me I don't understand why anyone would turn the traction control off on public roads. In the past two weeks I can think of three other accidents (this is the fourth) ON THIS SITE -- that occurred in part because the traction control was switched off.

Tidbit: Those of us assigned ZL1 Captured Test Fleet vehicles have been told "don't even THINK about it"

(I shall now turn to page vii in our ZL1 handout that we were given and had to sign that we'd read it -- and we can read in unison:

"..the ZL1 is a very powerful vehicle. Traction Control and Stability Control MUST be active at all times. Failure to comply with this directive will result in revoked driving privileges and up to and including Termination....") (underline put there by GM -- not me...)

Wellalrightythen!


We received similar instructions with other CTF Camaros and Corvettes --- now - I think that perhaps the people who made this proclamation are quite familiar with Camaro - and they're making this rule for a reason.

I guess what I'd say to you is this:

1. It's your car - you are free to do as you see fit.

2. If you DO wreck your Camaro - it's another in the junk yard - and insurance rates will continue to climb. Don't believe me? Go look at the sales rates of Muscle cars from 1966 to 1969 - and watch as they drop off a cliff in late 1969 and 1970--that happened for a reason: Most accidents happened at high rates of speed and were quite --how shall we put this? "spectacular?" -- those of us who were around will tell you that some insurance costs were very nearly equal to the base price of the car PER YEAR by 1970! Do we really want to go thru that again?

3. I do hope that you and your loved ones and innocent ones are not injured if you do, indeed have an accident.....but if you hit me and I find out that you disabled your traction control - I'm not going to be a bit happy - and if I'm injured, I might consider coming after you legally.

4. Please-- I'm begging you: don't talk about shutting it off on this or any other site - it only encourages others - and that's not a good thing.......

Again - I'm not wanting to belittle you - but I've seen too many people killed in accidents where Stability control or seatbelts may have saved lives had people just used them.

[Fiveg56]

A day will come when it will be illegal to turn traction/stability control off on public streets...

[z28racer]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

I'm not saying this to belittle you.....

...but if you think the car 'runs like crap' with it on - I'm thinking that you're breaking the rear tires loose with regularity - or there's something wrong with your traction control system.

I'm sure you saw the 'accident' at the Press event at V.I.R. -- You may have respect for the car - but there's a reason why they call it an 'accident' -- and for the life of me I don't understand why anyone would turn the traction control off on public roads. In the past two weeks I can think of three other accidents (this is the fourth) ON THIS SITE -- that occurred in part because the traction control was switched off.

Tidbit: Those of us assigned ZL1 Captured Test Fleet vehicles have been told "don't even THINK about it"

(I shall now turn to page vii in our ZL1 handout that we were given and had to sign that we'd read it -- and we can read in unison:

"..the ZL1 is a very powerful vehicle. Traction Control and Stability Control MUST be active at all times. Failure to comply with this directive will result in revoked driving privileges and up to and including Termination....") (underline put there by GM -- not me...)

Wellalrightythen!


We received similar instructions with other CTF Camaros and Corvettes --- now - I think that perhaps the people who made this proclamation are quite familiar with Camaro - and they're making this rule for a reason.

I guess what I'd say to you is this:

1. It's your car - you are free to do as you see fit.

2. If you DO wreck your Camaro - it's another in the junk yard - and insurance rates will continue to climb. Don't believe me? Go look at the sales rates of Muscle cars from 1966 to 1969 - and watch as they drop off a cliff in late 1969 and 1970--that happened for a reason: Most accidents happened at high rates of speed and were quite --how shall we put this? "spectacular?" -- those of us who were around will tell you that some insurance costs were very nearly equal to the base price of the car PER YEAR by 1970! Do we really want to go thru that again?

3. I do hope that you and your loved ones and innocent ones are not injured if you do, indeed have an accident.....but if you hit me and I find out that you disabled your traction control - I'm not going to be a bit happy - and if I'm injured, I might consider coming after you legally.

4. Please-- I'm begging you: don't talk about shutting it off on this or any other site - it only encourages others - and that's not a good thing.......

Again - I'm not wanting to belittle you - but I've seen too many people killed in accidents where Stability control or seatbelts may have saved lives had people just used them.

Sounds to me like you boy's dont know how to drive. If you cant handle your car without the traction control on you might want to consider getting a different car or getting driving lessons. I also think that ABS should be able to be shut off by the driver. To many people buy cars that are way over there driving ability. Think you might be one!

[ZachSGMSS]

Originally Posted by z28racer

Sounds to me like you boy's dont know how to drive. If you cant handle your car without the traction control on you might want to consider getting a different car or getting driving lessons. I also think that ABS should be able to be shut off by the driver. To many people buy cars that are way over there driving ability. Think you might be one!

You don't know who you're talking to there do you?