02-24-2012, 06:38 PM | #1 |
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6.0 GTO faster than a SS, stock?
I got a couple guys I know that say that the stock GTO is faster than a stock SS. Their claim is because the Goat is lighter. Now of course they both own one so it makes sense they would say this. Of course I know this has been answered before, probably many times but what good is a forum if you cant ask questions, this is not a question. Besides if we just looked up all this information through past post and threads instead of making own it wouldn't be a forum, or it wouldn't be the informative Camaro forum that it is.
Anyways, to the real question which is faster stock? Thanks
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02-24-2012, 06:39 PM | #2 |
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Faster in what way? In the quarter? The Mustang's rear end will ensure that it puts out better 1/4 mile times.
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GTO = pontiac not GT...lol
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02-24-2012, 06:52 PM | #4 |
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I think thats a drivers race. both are pretty close in numbers.
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LS3 at 426 hp and ls2 GTO at 400hp would give a slight edge to the camaro. Manual camaro is 3860 lbs and GTO is like 3750 or so. LS3 has a better power to weight. 9.375 lb per hp for gto and 9.06 for ss ls3. Cant really argue it...the fasest ever posted stock time for an ls3 5th gen is 12.5. The stock ls2 GTO has never gone 12.5 stock. 12.8 is the record I believe....and they have been around a lot longer. So basically you are both right I suppose Last edited by ULTRAZLS1; 02-24-2012 at 07:09 PM. |
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02-24-2012, 07:53 PM | #6 |
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SS is def. the better machine.
One key reason is the trans difference and gearing. TR6060 > T-56 in many ways. The SS will put the power down more efficiently than a GTO will. SS's are also top end machines and tend to trap a lot higher than even a well driven GTO. SS > GTO.
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02-24-2012, 08:46 PM | #7 |
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I've beat a 6.0 GTO the day after I brought my SS home, stock for stock. Close though.
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02-24-2012, 09:05 PM | #8 |
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Stock fire stock the ls3 camaro is a tad faster. Expect maybe 1mph and 1 tenth quicker on average. L99 though is slower. You can't expect to weigh close to 200lbs more and produce the same power and expect to be faster.expect the l99 car to be slower by maybe 2mph and 2 tenths on average
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02-24-2012, 09:08 PM | #9 |
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Vs an auto gto though expect it to be close. Better power to weight but worse gearing.
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I would say it is closer to .2 -.3 tenths and 2-3mph advantage for the LS3 SS. |
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02-24-2012, 09:25 PM | #11 |
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Not from what I witness at the track. also, look at the numbers (and not hero runs) 25 less hp but also 100-150lbs less weight . The difference in performance is measurable, sorry but maybe not quite as much as you would like.
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I was talking hero time vs hero time. 12.5 vs 12.8. Max potential for both cars shows a .3 tenth difference. Not really arguing just stating the facts. 3 years on the road and we have a camaro at 12.5 hero and 7 years on the road and we have the GTO at 12.8. Not sure whats to be argued or how I can be more fair. |
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02-25-2012, 08:14 AM | #14 |
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M6 to M6 would be pretty close, but the SS would have it with equal drivers and no mistakes. The gear ratios between a T-56 and TR6060 are nearly identical between an SS and 6.0L GTO.
The SS will generally take the GTO with its slightly better power-to-weight ratio, and a higher redline. Just don't get ****y and don't mess up. The Goat might be lighter (not by that much), but the 26 extra hp from the LS3 makes up for it. Tell your buddies to do the math.
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