Oil Cooler delete questions - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

go_go_gadget88 · 03-15-2018, 09:55 PM

Well, I started tearing back down some to inspect things with my build. When I went to jack the car up, I noticed a small puddle of coolant underneath. After some tracing, it looks like it's coming out the large "plug" on the drivers side where the oil cooler line goes into the block.

Since I have fluids out, it seems like a good time to go ahead and just delete the whole thing. Is this all I need (full delete)?

http://www.improvedracing.com/coolin...ductsearchusen

And then, I couldn't find from a search. What size socket is needed to take that factory plug out of the block? Looks pretty big.

And for the new plug that comes in the kit, what is needed to put that in? I am guessing I have neither of these tools.

Thanks in advance!

Synner · 03-15-2018, 11:48 PM

I believe it was 22mm. I used a motorcycle axle removal tool or you can find some giant allen wrenches by googling.

Pro-tuned · 03-16-2018, 03:53 AM

What’s the plan after deletion?

Bo White · 03-16-2018, 04:44 AM

Probably leaving it off.
Mine has been deleted for 70k miles now.

go_go_gadget88 · 03-16-2018, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo White

Probably leaving it off.
Mine has been deleted for 70k miles now.

Correct. If the thing is just gonna leak I'll just take it all off and eliminate the possibility.

Since you've done this Bo, do you remember the sizes of the factory plug, Or the new one?

frankwjr · 03-16-2018, 07:35 AM

the oil cooler/heater get's the motor up to temp faster...mostly for emmision's but a motor that warms up quickly does ultimately have less wear...

my plug has been weepin for a while now...traced it after gettin a wiff one day...my understanding they got cross threaded at the plant...

Bo - how did the delete affect your regular drivin temps..if at all?

Bo White · 03-16-2018, 07:51 AM

Takes longer for oil temps to get up and it's about 240ish on the interstate.
Oil temps between 230-260* are ideal.

lazerlemonta · 03-16-2018, 07:53 AM

If your not road course racing the cooler is just something else to go bad imo. I have not seen oil temps much more the 220-240. Hell real drag racers back in the day would use 3 quarts of oil lol now we have improved racing scrapers and baffles..... much better option

TXM62SS · 03-16-2018, 07:54 AM

Got rid of mine about 3 years ago. No issues at all.

Bo White · 03-16-2018, 08:00 AM

Agreed on road racing. Extended high rpm racing will tax oil.

Bo White · 03-16-2018, 08:01 AM

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=390453

xc_SS/RS · 03-16-2018, 08:09 AM

how likely is it that the plug is crossthreaded?

go_go_gadget88 · 03-16-2018, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXM62SS

Got rid of mine about 3 years ago. No issues at all.

Since you have done this, do you know what tools I need for those large plugs? And does the cooler come out fine with the pan and everything still bolted in place?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo White

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=390453

Yeah I have seen this. That's one of the posts about it that made me decide to just delete. Not seeing tool sizes listed in that thread though?

Quote:

Originally Posted by xc_SS/RS

how likely is it that the plug is crossthreaded?

Well, I'm sure it has been in there from the factory. But as mentioned above, I guess the factory crossthreaded some of them? I had no leaks before my cam swap, and didn't think I had messed with this any to cause a leak.

Bildo · 03-16-2018, 09:22 AM

I left mine on the LS3 when I sold it, just blocked off the radiator bung with a vacuum cap and a hose clamp. New block already had a block off plate above the oil filter housing.

03-15-2018, 09:55 PM	#1
go_go_gadget88 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS ABM 6M Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Kansas Posts: 617	Oil Cooler delete questions Well, I started tearing back down some to inspect things with my build. When I went to jack the car up, I noticed a small puddle of coolant underneath. After some tracing, it looks like it's coming out the large "plug" on the drivers side where the oil cooler line goes into the block. Since I have fluids out, it seems like a good time to go ahead and just delete the whole thing. Is this all I need (full delete)? http://www.improvedracing.com/coolin...ductsearchusen And then, I couldn't find from a search. What size socket is needed to take that factory plug out of the block? Looks pretty big. And for the new plug that comes in the kit, what is needed to put that in? I am guessing I have neither of these tools. Thanks in advance! __________________ 2010 ABM 2SS/RS LS3 6 Speed -- Rotofab CAI \| Speed Engineering 1 7/8" Longtubes w/ cat Delete \| Magnaflow competition catback \| TSP 231/246 cam\| TSP/PAC .660" Spring Kit \| TSP CNC Ported Heads \| Bo White PTB \| GPI Ported/RM Intake \| 3.91's \| BC Catch Can \| MGW Shifter \| BMR 1" Drop Springs \| BMR Trailing arms/Toe Rods/Rear UCA Bushings \| Pegasus Subframe Mounts

03-16-2018, 03:53 AM	#3
Pro-tuned Angewendet Ingenieur Drives: 14 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: USA Posts: 401	What’s the plan after deletion? __________________ ———— LQ9, Iron Block, Forged internals, 408CI, Jannetty custom cam, TS short block, Whipple, Hardened Jackshaft, PRC 260, 2X3 Dynatech Full Competition, HF Cats, CAI, NW 103, Chee, ID 1300, COPO Breather, MSD, Fore Dual Pump, ultratorque, E85, dual Meth, True Trac, 3:45, 1500hp axle-shafts, DSS CF, BMR, custom Pearl/Candy paint by Jaidah.

03-16-2018, 04:44 AM	#4
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	Probably leaving it off. Mine has been deleted for 70k miles now. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

03-16-2018, 07:35 AM	#6
frankwjr Drives: 2010 SS 2SS M6 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Smithsburg, Md. Posts: 2,445	the oil cooler/heater get's the motor up to temp faster...mostly for emmision's but a motor that warms up quickly does ultimately have less wear... my plug has been weepin for a while now...traced it after gettin a wiff one day...my understanding they got cross threaded at the plant... Bo - how did the delete affect your regular drivin temps..if at all? __________________ 2010 SS 2SS M6 - Tune by RDP dynoSteve!(Woot) - Daily Driver - *150K!* - All work by me...

03-16-2018, 07:51 AM	#7
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	Takes longer for oil temps to get up and it's about 240ish on the interstate. Oil temps between 230-260* are ideal. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

03-15-2018, 11:48 PM	#2
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,544	I believe it was 22mm. I used a motorcycle axle removal tool or you can find some giant allen wrenches by googling.

03-16-2018, 07:53 AM	#8
lazerlemonta Drives: 2010 C6 1LT Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 877 View My Garage	If your not road course racing the cooler is just something else to go bad imo. I have not seen oil temps much more the 220-240. Hell real drag racers back in the day would use 3 quarts of oil lol now we have improved racing scrapers and baffles..... much better option __________________ 2010 C6 JET STREAM BLUE BOLT ONS TO THE EXTREME, GPI 281cc HEADS, Darth_V8r SPEC CAM, FAST 102 INTAKE, CRANK SCRAPER, QUARTER MASTER 7.25" CLUTCH, RPM 3.90 STAGE II DIF, Z51 Gear Set AND E85 Best ET 10.58 @ 131.8 stock heads and stock cam 453/445 SAE 10.62@134.82 GPI 281CC Heads, SS4 Cam and X1 Intake Best 1/8 6.80@105.75 Best MPH 134.82

03-16-2018, 07:54 AM	#9
TXM62SS Drives: 2012 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Pearland, TX Posts: 388	Got rid of mine about 3 years ago. No issues at all. __________________ Victory Red 2012 2SS/RS LS3 Camaro Pat G. Spec Cam from Cam Motion 228/236 .599/.599 112+2LSA Kooks 1-7/8" LTs w/ Cats Roto-Fab, Bo White TB, Borla Touring Catback 3.91 1LE Gears, MGW Tuned by Pat G

03-16-2018, 08:00 AM	#10
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	Agreed on road racing. Extended high rpm racing will tax oil. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

03-16-2018, 08:01 AM	#11
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=390453 __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

03-16-2018, 08:09 AM	#12
xc_SS/RS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: somewhere in MD Posts: 4,883	how likely is it that the plug is crossthreaded? __________________ 2010 2SS/RS Z/28 intake, NW, FAST 102, speed engineering LT's, some exhaust, ATI -10% pulley, GM flex fuel injectors, DSX flex fuel sensor, MGW shifter, HP Tuners, some suspension work, stickers and a little weight loss. 12.63 @113.53

03-16-2018, 09:22 AM	#14
Bildo Drives: 2012 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 1,677	I left mine on the LS3 when I sold it, just blocked off the radiator bung with a vacuum cap and a hose clamp. New block already had a block off plate above the oil filter housing. __________________ 2012 2SS M6, ERL Superdeck 6 427, PRC 255 Heads, Procharger F1A w/ 3.85 pulley, 1300hp intercooler, Squash Dual 450lph, E85, ID1700, RXT Clutch, DSS 1pc driveshaft, GForce axles, Eaton Detroit Trutrac, a bunch of other crap I don't feel like typing.