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go_go_gadget88 · 03-16-2018, 09:52 AM

Update for anyone else that's ever curious and searching...

I reached out to TSP, as they sell the brass plug, on sizing. I guess it's a 17mm hex. So that's answered.

If nobody is sure, I will try and squeeze caliper in there and measure the size of the old plug if I can. Looks like the line comes undone like the tranny cooler lines into radiator..so just pull c-clip out and line will come out? So after line is moved, a socket should work? I'm guessing 30+mm on that one

Pro-tuned · 03-16-2018, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lazerlemonta

If your not road course racing the cooler is just something else to go bad imo. I have not seen oil temps much more the 220-240. Hell real drag racers back in the day would use 3 quarts of oil lol now we have improved racing scrapers and baffles..... much better option

I would stick with you on this. Having temperatures so high is not necessary. Keeping sulfur deposits from forming and burning off any moisture is what my concern is. Modern oils in recent times are regulated and processed to remove around 98% + or - by mandates. We complete this process through the sulfur recovery unit SRU in the refinement. You can see this on those cars with the digital gauge, you will see the recommended operating range with the little yellow line. I’m running this range and I’m not seeing deposits or having issues. Running high temperatures will only serve to degrade oil performance.

Bo White · 03-16-2018, 11:24 AM

Both of my Blackstone Lab results were great. Had one done at 100k miles and another at 130k. My next one will be at 150k

Pro-tuned · 03-16-2018, 11:35 AM

Such tests are more centered on engine wear and antifreeze chemicals, and not all compositions of oil.

Bo White · 03-16-2018, 11:53 AM

I seen that and that's why I paid the extra for testing for the additives.

Pro-tuned · 03-16-2018, 12:42 PM

For automotive applications I would use the base test only. There isn’t much value in $400-500 dollar tests when ultimately you will just change the oil. Oil companies have prioritory elements not shown as options for testing.

Bo White · 03-16-2018, 01:16 PM

I don't doubt some tests are expensive. I think it was like $70 to do it all. I may be remembering wrong but it was under 100

Pro-tuned · 03-16-2018, 01:42 PM

Got ya. I think the base test is like 28 plus hazmat shipping. FWIW personally, if something’s out of spec beyond that I would just change the oil.

el Wulf · 03-16-2018, 03:56 PM

Here's the DIY thread for the oil delete & air cooler install. It has the info that you're looking for: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=381050

sdynak · 03-16-2018, 04:54 PM

If you have a 1 1/4 socket that will work also. I would recommend getting a tap just in case. I wish I had when I had mine apart. I got the new plug in but I think it would have been better if the threads were chased. Now that is my experience.. you may have a different. I did buy the tap after in case I ever need to remove it again. Prayers from the man above I don't.

This is where I got my tap but it will take a good 6+ weeks - https://www.ebay.com/itm/S-1pcs-28mm...4AAOSwmmxW52BP

go_go_gadget88 · 03-16-2018, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by el Wulf

Here's the DIY thread for the oil delete & air cooler install. It has the info that you're looking for: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=381050

Perfect, thank you! I had measured with caliper on lunch and came up with 34mm, so glad this verified I ordered the right socket! Good info here. Doesn't look like there is really much to it.

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Originally Posted by sdynak

If you have a 1 1/4 socket that will work also. I would recommend getting a tap just in case. I wish I had when I had mine apart. I got the new plug in but I think it would have been better if the threads were chased. Now that is my experience.. you may have a different. I did buy the tap after in case I ever need to remove it again. Prayers from the man above I don't.

This is where I got my tap but it will take a good 6+ weeks - https://www.ebay.com/itm/S-1pcs-28mm...4AAOSwmmxW52BP

I just ordered a 34mm. May come in handy for an axle nut or something in the future. I had a 32mm, so I was close to having it!

I will just see how the plug wants to go in i guess. Don't really want to wait 6 weeks down waiting on a tap! Lol

Bo White · 03-16-2018, 10:31 PM

Mine wasn't xthreaded but it was only hand tight.

03-16-2018, 09:52 AM	#15
go_go_gadget88 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS ABM 6M Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Kansas Posts: 617	Update for anyone else that's ever curious and searching... I reached out to TSP, as they sell the brass plug, on sizing. I guess it's a 17mm hex. So that's answered. If nobody is sure, I will try and squeeze caliper in there and measure the size of the old plug if I can. Looks like the line comes undone like the tranny cooler lines into radiator..so just pull c-clip out and line will come out? So after line is moved, a socket should work? I'm guessing 30+mm on that one __________________ 2010 ABM 2SS/RS LS3 6 Speed -- Rotofab CAI \| Speed Engineering 1 7/8" Longtubes w/ cat Delete \| Magnaflow competition catback \| TSP 231/246 cam\| TSP/PAC .660" Spring Kit \| TSP CNC Ported Heads \| Bo White PTB \| GPI Ported/RM Intake \| 3.91's \| BC Catch Can \| MGW Shifter \| BMR 1" Drop Springs \| BMR Trailing arms/Toe Rods/Rear UCA Bushings \| Pegasus Subframe Mounts

03-16-2018, 11:24 AM	#17
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	Both of my Blackstone Lab results were great. Had one done at 100k miles and another at 130k. My next one will be at 150k __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

03-16-2018, 11:35 AM	#18
Pro-tuned Angewendet Ingenieur Drives: 14 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: USA Posts: 401	Such tests are more centered on engine wear and antifreeze chemicals, and not all compositions of oil. __________________ ———— LQ9, Iron Block, Forged internals, 408CI, Jannetty custom cam, TS short block, Whipple, Hardened Jackshaft, PRC 260, 2X3 Dynatech Full Competition, HF Cats, CAI, NW 103, Chee, ID 1300, COPO Breather, MSD, Fore Dual Pump, ultratorque, E85, dual Meth, True Trac, 3:45, 1500hp axle-shafts, DSS CF, BMR, custom Pearl/Candy paint by Jaidah.

03-16-2018, 11:53 AM	#19
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	I seen that and that's why I paid the extra for testing for the additives. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

03-16-2018, 12:42 PM	#20
Pro-tuned Angewendet Ingenieur Drives: 14 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: USA Posts: 401	For automotive applications I would use the base test only. There isn’t much value in $400-500 dollar tests when ultimately you will just change the oil. Oil companies have prioritory elements not shown as options for testing. __________________ ———— LQ9, Iron Block, Forged internals, 408CI, Jannetty custom cam, TS short block, Whipple, Hardened Jackshaft, PRC 260, 2X3 Dynatech Full Competition, HF Cats, CAI, NW 103, Chee, ID 1300, COPO Breather, MSD, Fore Dual Pump, ultratorque, E85, dual Meth, True Trac, 3:45, 1500hp axle-shafts, DSS CF, BMR, custom Pearl/Candy paint by Jaidah.

03-16-2018, 01:16 PM	#21
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	I don't doubt some tests are expensive. I think it was like $70 to do it all. I may be remembering wrong but it was under 100 __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

03-16-2018, 01:42 PM	#22
Pro-tuned Angewendet Ingenieur Drives: 14 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: USA Posts: 401	Got ya. I think the base test is like 28 plus hazmat shipping. FWIW personally, if something’s out of spec beyond that I would just change the oil.

03-16-2018, 03:56 PM	#23
el Wulf Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Camaro Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Chico, California Posts: 187 View My Garage	Here's the DIY thread for the oil delete & air cooler install. It has the info that you're looking for: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=381050

03-16-2018, 04:54 PM	#24
sdynak Drives: 2010 1SS Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Bayville, NJ Posts: 936	If you have a 1 1/4 socket that will work also. I would recommend getting a tap just in case. I wish I had when I had mine apart. I got the new plug in but I think it would have been better if the threads were chased. Now that is my experience.. you may have a different. I did buy the tap after in case I ever need to remove it again. Prayers from the man above I don't. This is where I got my tap but it will take a good 6+ weeks - https://www.ebay.com/itm/S-1pcs-28mm...4AAOSwmmxW52BP __________________ 2010 1SS LS3, Black, 235/250, .621/.615, 114 + 4, Kooks Stepped Headers, 3.91's, Bo White PTB, Flowmaster Mufflers, Cold Air Industries CAI, Apex Scoop & Windshield Washer Relocate, SLP Wheels, Skip Shift Eliminate, Barton Flat Stick, OEM HID/Halos, Dyno Tuned by ECS

03-16-2018, 10:31 PM	#26
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	Mine wasn't xthreaded but it was only hand tight. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X