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Bfh_american · 06-03-2019, 03:59 AM

Afternoon Gents. I have a question. I'll be SCing, camming, etc my 2013 2SS Camaro. With that added power, 700 +- will the rear end need to be changed? I've been debating this with a friend, and would like another opinion.

bct10985 · 06-03-2019, 06:08 AM

Some have rans 9’s with the stock SS rear. Depends on what your plans are with the car. 700hp your not going to get traction with stock wheels/tires. If smoking tires till 80mph is the goal then the stock rear/axles might survive. If you add a decent rim/tire and get traction then they may not.

Bfh_american · 06-03-2019, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bct10985

Some have rans 9’s with the stock SS rear. Depends on what your plans are with the car. 700hp your not going to get traction with stock wheels/tires. If smoking tires till 80mph is the goal then the stock rear/axles might survive. If you add a decent rim/tire and get traction then they may not.

I'm not really gonna be doing any track racing/ dragging any time soon. Just gonna be on the roads/ pleasure car. Tires are gonna be good quality, but I'm not gonna be doing anything out of the norm. What would you recommend if I do upgrade?

Omega · 06-03-2019, 06:25 AM

If you address everything you need to to eliminate wheel hop, you will be fine.

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Bfh_american · 06-03-2019, 06:37 AM

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If you address everything you need to to eliminate wheel hop, you will be fine.

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Wheel hop, essentially the car losing and gaining traction over and over again. So, the remedy is either better tires or bushings, right?

10aSSee D · 06-03-2019, 09:07 AM

I’m running G-force 9 inch and axles along with BMR suspension. I had Nittio NT-05 tires and would just blow the tires off through 4th gear. I switched to Mickey Thompson street ss drag radials and man do they hook!

Bfh_american · 06-03-2019, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 10aSSee D

I’m running G-force 9 inch and axles along with BMR suspension. I had Nittio NT-05 tires and would just blow the tires off through 4th gear. I switched to Mickey Thompson street ss drag radials and man do they hook!

🤔 Gonna look into those tires for sure. Ordering some within the next monthk

gm2376 · 06-03-2019, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bfh_american

Wheel hop, essentially the car losing and gaining traction over and over again. So, the remedy is either better tires or bushings, right?

for wheel hop, you will want cradle bushings toe rods and trailing arms, LCA's wont hurt either. if you put 700 to the wheels and run street tire....you will be fine, but the power will be wasted because you will constantly spin the tire from a dig. If you run a drag radial....it will be Russian roulette with the diff. If you upgrade, I would go the ZL1 diff. that should easily be good for 1000rwhp.

Omega · 06-03-2019, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bfh_american

Wheel hop, essentially the car losing and gaining traction over and over again. So, the remedy is either better tires or bushings, right?

Yeah, the bushings and upgraded arms reduce the chances of wheel hop when you break traction. Better tires reduce the wheel spin. Upgraded axles withstand the higher TQ load of the sticky tires and can survive wheel hop a lot better.

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dreksnot · 06-03-2019, 01:39 PM

Autos happen to be easier on the diff than the manuals (less shock). Like others have said here, some suspension work - at minimum swapping trailing arms and toe rods will reduce the wheel hop. Your stock axles will be the first to go. If you realize you need a stronger diff, the ZL1 is a great option being the best bang-for-the-buck. That includes the OEM ZL1 axles as well. The OEM driveshaft should handle your needs.

Bfh_american · 06-03-2019, 01:46 PM

Thanks gentlemen!

Bfh_american · 06-04-2019, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 10aSSee D

I’m running G-force 9 inch and axles along with BMR suspension. I had Nittio NT-05 tires and would just blow the tires off through 4th gear. I switched to Mickey Thompson street ss drag radials and man do they hook!

I read awful reviews on the MT STREET SS. They really hooked for you? I'm looking at Toyo R88Rs now. They seem like they have the most hook. Not crazy expensive either.

BiggFoot · 06-04-2019, 05:36 AM

Don't know about the M/T SS but check out the M/T ET Street Radials

10aSSee D · 06-04-2019, 12:09 PM

MT street radials are the ss tires I believe. I’m telling you they hook!! I was amazed by how well they took to the street. I went from blowing tires off to straight traction. I highly recommend these tires.

06-03-2019, 03:59 AM	#1
Bfh_american Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: New Jersey Posts: 62	700 RWHP Build question Afternoon Gents. I have a question. I'll be SCing, camming, etc my 2013 2SS Camaro. With that added power, 700 +- will the rear end need to be changed? I've been debating this with a friend, and would like another opinion.

06-03-2019, 06:08 AM	#2
bct10985 Drives: 2010 2SS LS3, 2013 duramax Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Dover, De Posts: 1,451	Some have rans 9’s with the stock SS rear. Depends on what your plans are with the car. 700hp your not going to get traction with stock wheels/tires. If smoking tires till 80mph is the goal then the stock rear/axles might survive. If you add a decent rim/tire and get traction then they may not. __________________ ECS Ysi-B, cam, Tsp 2" longtubes, Squash dual pumps, Id1300s, meth, 4L80e, FTI 3600, ZL1 3.73 diff, BMR suspension, 15" conversion, weld rts mt 275 et street R. 9.6@147mph

06-03-2019, 09:07 AM	#6
10aSSee D Drives: Silver 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 2,562	I’m running G-force 9 inch and axles along with BMR suspension. I had Nittio NT-05 tires and would just blow the tires off through 4th gear. I switched to Mickey Thompson street ss drag radials and man do they hook! __________________ MODS: ADM built 417, 2.9L Whipple with 3.250 pulley, ADM ported and polished LSA heads,ADM stage3 cam,ADM LSA belt drive system,ADM CAI race scoop, ADM dual fuel pumps, ID 850's, BMR full suspension, Gforce 9 inch kit with 3.5 inch driveshaft, Street Slayer twin carbon clutch, Lingenfelter oil seperator. Tuned by built by ADM Performance, 763rwhp,705rwtq

06-03-2019, 01:39 PM	#10
dreksnot Served USN - Atomic Chimp Drives: 13 Camaro LSX434 TT M6, 21 ZLE A10 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,603 View My Garage	Autos happen to be easier on the diff than the manuals (less shock). Like others have said here, some suspension work - at minimum swapping trailing arms and toe rods will reduce the wheel hop. Your stock axles will be the first to go. If you realize you need a stronger diff, the ZL1 is a great option being the best bang-for-the-buck. That includes the OEM ZL1 axles as well. The OEM driveshaft should handle your needs. __________________ In excess of 1,000WHP LSX434 \| AGP 65/65 TT \| BTR Equalizer Intake \| Trickflow 245cc cathedral \| BTR custom cam \| Cortex EBC \| n2mb WOT \| ID-1700x \| Brisk GR12S \| RPM Lv 7 TR6060 \| AGP's Triple 525LPH Fore Fuel \| Monster LT1-S Triple \| 4.11 DSS Proform 9", CF driveshaft, 1400hp axles \| Hurst Line Lock \| MGW Retro Short Throw w/old skool Hurst T-handle \| ADM solid subframe mounts \| Prothane Motor Mounts \| Revshift Poly Trans insert \| Moreno camber/caster plates

06-04-2019, 05:36 AM	#13
BiggFoot Drives: 2010 Camaro (M6) 1000+ HP SBE Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 1,391	Don't know about the M/T SS but check out the M/T ET Street Radials __________________ F-1X, Cog Drive, ATI Super Pulley/Sprag ~ 19 psi Blower Cam Brodix BP BR 3 Heads Kooks LT Headers and full 3" exhaust Fore Triple Pump Fuel System with ID 1700X Injectors - E85 conversion DSS 9” Conversion (1400 hp axles, driveshaft, pumpkin) & Strange 3.70 gears McLeod RXT Twin HD Clutch & Upgraded Slave RPM Level VII TR6060 BMR Drag Suspension Package w/Strange shocks Carlyle 15" and M/T ET Street R radials 10.1 @ 143 mph 1/4 mile

06-03-2019, 06:25 AM	#4
Omega Drives: G8 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 251	If you address everything you need to to eliminate wheel hop, you will be fine. Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

06-03-2019, 01:46 PM	#11
Bfh_american Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: New Jersey Posts: 62	Thanks gentlemen!

06-04-2019, 12:09 PM	#14
10aSSee D Drives: Silver 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 2,562	MT street radials are the ss tires I believe. I’m telling you they hook!! I was amazed by how well they took to the street. I went from blowing tires off to straight traction. I highly recommend these tires. __________________ MODS: ADM built 417, 2.9L Whipple with 3.250 pulley, ADM ported and polished LSA heads,ADM stage3 cam,ADM LSA belt drive system,ADM CAI race scoop, ADM dual fuel pumps, ID 850's, BMR full suspension, Gforce 9 inch kit with 3.5 inch driveshaft, Street Slayer twin carbon clutch, Lingenfelter oil seperator. Tuned by built by ADM Performance, 763rwhp,705rwtq