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inferno camaro · 07-07-2012, 01:07 PM

I have had my engine and trans tune for the better part of a year. We have tried over 20 different tunes and can't seem to get it the way I want it. One issue we keep struggling with is downshifting. The engine will rev up as it downshifts and it will throw your head back. It also seems like each gear downshift acts differently. Does this sound normal or is something just not being tuned correctly. Livernois is the shop tuning it and I even went as far as driving it 550 miles to them for a retune and still couldn't get it. I was going to have someone else try to tune it but was told by livernois that no one else can access the computer to tune it.
Any help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Scott

SS King · 07-07-2012, 02:37 PM

Hit up Ted at JRE I'm sure he can take care of your issues

inferno camaro · 07-08-2012, 12:22 PM

TTT

thebeast916 · 07-08-2012, 02:53 PM

Your tune is locked by Livernois. Your best bet it to buy a new ecu and flash it with your stock file. Then do a retune on that. Livernois will not unlock there tunes

Run4two · 07-08-2012, 03:03 PM

Did you sign paperwork giving Livernois full ownership of your ecu? Is this legal? There should be at the very least a fee to unlock.

grocerygetter · 07-08-2012, 04:26 PM

You need to be more clear on what it's doing. You had an aftermarket torque converter in a car before? (serious question....no flame)

MARINE1991 · 07-08-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by thebeast916

Your tune is locked by Livernois. Your best bet it to buy a new ecu and flash it with your stock file. Then do a retune on that. Livernois will not unlock there tunes

Just went through this with another tuner, had to get a new ecu and have the dealership flash it back for me, it shifted horrible, got a tune from Ted not as aggressive but the car is running great so I am leaving it alone...

MARINE1991 · 07-08-2012, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Run4two

Did you sign paperwork giving Livernois full ownership of your ecu? Is this legal? There should be at the very least a fee to unlock.

Most tuner lock the ecu after they tune it, so no one can see how they tune it...just learned this the hard way...

: thumbdown:

Mr_Draco · 07-08-2012, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MARINE1991

Most tuner lock the ecu after they tune it, so no one can see how they tune it...just learned this the hard way...

Actually only a few tuners lock their tunes, most don't do this piss poor practice.

speedmon · 07-08-2012, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Draco

Actually only a few tuners lock their tunes, most don't do this piss poor practice.

I agree......nonsense and illegal unless you signed an agreement stating such.
You have alot of patience to stay with them.... 20 tunes? Sheeeeesh! Sounds like an R&D project.

I got mine tuned through Tampa...2 flashes and they were spot on!

But you do have 400lbs of TQ, 3000 stall, and 370 gears and the "downshifting" is definitely a science.....and it is different by downshift gear....lots of variables.

? Does it behave (or have the same issues) the same when downshifting in automode or tap-shift.....or is it different?

And is your tune "actually" locked or did they just tell you it was locked?

Tampa Tuning · 07-08-2012, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MARINE1991

Most tuner lock the ecu after they tune it, so no one can see how they tune it...just learned this the hard way...

: thumbdown:

Maybe you just had a bad experience with a bad tuner that didnt want to show his work. I know guys that do that, and its just a stupid business practice. I have shops all over the world recieve mail order tunes from me, and im very proud of the work Tampa Tuning turns out.

Ive never locked a tune. The tuner should never lock the tune because its not their car. You paid for the tune, its your tune. You are the owner of the tune.
www.TampaTuning.com

Tampa Tuning · 07-08-2012, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by speedmon

I agree......nonsense and illegal unless you signed an agreement stating such.
You have alot of patience to stay with them.... 20 tunes? Sheeeeesh! Sounds like an R&D project.

I got mine tuned through Tampa...2 flashes and they were spot on!

But you do have 400lbs of TQ, 3000 stall, and 370 gears and the "downshifting" is definitely a science.....and it is different by downshift gear....lots of variables.

? Does it behave (or have the same issues) the same when downshifting in automode or tap-shift.....or is it different?

And is your tune "actually" locked or did they just tell you it was locked?

Thanks Bro!

inferno camaro · 07-08-2012, 07:47 PM

No I didn't sign anything. The only way I found out was when I told them that another shop was going to try a tune it.

inferno camaro · 07-08-2012, 07:48 PM

I have had several aftermarket converters but not in this style trans.

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Originally Posted by grocerygetter

You need to be more clear on what it's doing. You had an aftermarket torque converter in a car before? (serious question....no flame)

07-07-2012, 01:07 PM	#1
inferno camaro Drives: 2010 camaro pace car, 2008 cts bl, Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 841	Trans Tune Issues I have had my engine and trans tune for the better part of a year. We have tried over 20 different tunes and can't seem to get it the way I want it. One issue we keep struggling with is downshifting. The engine will rev up as it downshifts and it will throw your head back. It also seems like each gear downshift acts differently. Does this sound normal or is something just not being tuned correctly. Livernois is the shop tuning it and I even went as far as driving it 550 miles to them for a retune and still couldn't get it. I was going to have someone else try to tune it but was told by livernois that no one else can access the computer to tune it. Any help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Scott __________________ Mods, 2r max cam, ls3 conv,kooks lt w/hf cats,kooks street sleeper cat back with magnaflow res x-pipe, roto fab cai, v-max TB, vigilante 3700 stall, 3.70 LPE, 442hp/392tq, Mike Norris Tune 11.71@116.24 1.63 60' m&h DR's

07-07-2012, 02:37 PM	#2
SS King Drives: a Panty Dropper Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Dehi Posts: 478	Hit up Ted at JRE I'm sure he can take care of your issues __________________

07-08-2012, 12:22 PM	#3
inferno camaro Drives: 2010 camaro pace car, 2008 cts bl, Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 841	TTT __________________ Mods, 2r max cam, ls3 conv,kooks lt w/hf cats,kooks street sleeper cat back with magnaflow res x-pipe, roto fab cai, v-max TB, vigilante 3700 stall, 3.70 LPE, 442hp/392tq, Mike Norris Tune 11.71@116.24 1.63 60' m&h DR's

07-08-2012, 04:26 PM	#6
grocerygetter instigator Drives: 2020 6.2 Trail Boss, 2022 XC90 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 72034 Posts: 3,979 View My Garage	You need to be more clear on what it's doing. You had an aftermarket torque converter in a car before? (serious question....no flame) __________________ -John S.

07-08-2012, 07:47 PM	#13
inferno camaro Drives: 2010 camaro pace car, 2008 cts bl, Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 841	No I didn't sign anything. The only way I found out was when I told them that another shop was going to try a tune it. __________________ Mods, 2r max cam, ls3 conv,kooks lt w/hf cats,kooks street sleeper cat back with magnaflow res x-pipe, roto fab cai, v-max TB, vigilante 3700 stall, 3.70 LPE, 442hp/392tq, Mike Norris Tune 11.71@116.24 1.63 60' m&h DR's

07-08-2012, 02:53 PM	#4
thebeast916 Drives: Blown G8 GT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 782	Your tune is locked by Livernois. Your best bet it to buy a new ecu and flash it with your stock file. Then do a retune on that. Livernois will not unlock there tunes

07-08-2012, 03:03 PM	#5
Run4two Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS Transformer Edition Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Temecula, Ca Posts: 451	Did you sign paperwork giving Livernois full ownership of your ecu? Is this legal? There should be at the very least a fee to unlock.