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Zslash28 · 11-09-2014, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tw78911sc

GM guy B "make sure you let them know all the parts will render their warranty worthless, so they are just going to buy after market stuff anyways since it will be cheaper."

GM guy C <<slaps guy B>> Looks at guy A with raised back hand, "and you were saying..."

Midnight Rat · 11-09-2014, 04:56 PM

What I was waiting for was the cold air intake which has already been out for awhile. But why if you use it does it void your power train warranty? Specifically says it will in the 2015 performance catalog.

SomeGeoffGuy · 11-09-2014, 05:32 PM

If you really look at it, most of the parts that can make your car perform like a z28 are available, but the parts to make it look like a z28 are not. That is the split Guys A and B used.

-Geoff

Denis · 11-09-2014, 06:14 PM

it doesnt really matter. i can put all the Z/28 parts i want on my SS....doesnt make it a Z. id say youre Z/28 is "protected".

*The_Blur* · 11-09-2014, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Zslash28

GM guy C <<slaps guy B>> Looks at guy A with raised back hand, "and you were saying..."

I really like GM Guy C. He seems like a cool dude.

90503 · 11-09-2014, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Denis

it doesnt really matter. i can put all the Z/28 parts i want on my SS....doesnt make it a Z. id say youre Z/28 is "protected".

Not according to this guy....lol....

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=383189

Apparently, a Z/28 is just another Camaro with some Z/28 stuff that can be just added....

If there were a Clones Equals Original Society, this guy would be their president....

Denis · 11-09-2014, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 90503

Not according to this guy....lol....

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=383189

Apparently, a Z/28 is just another Camaro with some Z/28 stuff that can be just added....

If there were a Clones Equals Original Society, this guy would be their president....

nah, run the vin. not a Z28. and anyone serious about buying one will do just that.

Mongo RS · 11-09-2014, 08:24 PM

Hmmm....

Somehow I like the idea of full Z/28 gear in a base V6 envelope.....

PYROLYSIS · 11-09-2014, 09:05 PM

Nothing has changed. The parts that GM originally listed as restricted are still restricted like the wheels, brakes and carbon fiber hood insert to name a few. The plan to offer some of the Z/28 parts is still in effect and hasn't changed since it's inception.

ParisTNDude · 11-10-2014, 06:06 AM

Like the cloning issue or not, if you watch Barrett Jackson or Mecum car auctions, some of the cloned 60s Camaros are fetching pretty good prices over the bone stockers. I'm sure todays cloning happens because the originals went higher than "sky high" in price, making a well done clone, a viable option.

Today's Z28 won't be cloned for quite some time and I believe it would be cheaper to buy an original if you wanted the entire package. GM parts are pretty expensive.

Mikamaro · 11-10-2014, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by soulsea

I remember reading numerous articles a while back about how GM was going to be very aggressive in not allowing z/28 clones by not allowing anyone without a Z/28 to purchase any of its trim specific parts. It looks like all that went out the window ... http://www.chevrolet.com/performance...parts/z28.html)

To answer you question. GM RESTRICTED ONLY A FEW PARTS FROM THE Z/28: wheels, flowtie. If I recall correctly.

CCMADONNA · 11-10-2014, 08:34 AM

who's gonna make the after market flowtie, please?

gimme a break - a Z/28 IS A Z/28 - there's no doubt about what car it is, let us working folk who can only come up with $30,000 - $40,000 have the freakin' little ornamentation that we can afford. It will NOT devalue your awesome work of art.

el ess A · 11-10-2014, 09:17 AM

To me, all these arguments one way or another are pointless.

If I want some Z/28 specific parts to put on my car, then I will find a way to obtain them, and I will put them on my car, and I STILL won't give two flying f***s whether you have a hissy fit or not about it. Example- I like the grille, but don't give a flip about the flowtie. Rear spoiler is cool, so I might add that. Center scoop on the hood- why not?

But as far as posing, that's not something I would care to do. Never have. Be proud of what you have, and enjoy modding the car YOU want.

My advice- if you want to mod, then mod. If you really want a Z/28 but think you can't afford one, then don't spend a dime on your current car and save that and more, so you can buy yourself a real Z/28.

As with the ZL1, there will be SOME people out there that just want the latest and greatest thing without regard to whether it makes sense. After the purchase, they're no longer hyped about it, and after a while, there will be some used ones out there, albeit more rare to find. The hunt is more appealing to them than field dressing the kill.

90503 · 11-10-2014, 09:53 AM

GM even waded in on the "cloning issue".....The very reason they give for the restriction in the first sentence is very telling...

11-09-2014, 05:32 PM	#17
SomeGeoffGuy Drives: 2023 2SS Convertible Join Date: May 2009 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 1,059	If you really look at it, most of the parts that can make your car perform like a z28 are available, but the parts to make it look like a z28 are not. That is the split Guys A and B used. -Geoff __________________ '12 2SS RS Convertible - Traded in. '16 2SS Convertible - White on white, mag-ride, NPP, nav. Sold! '23 2SS Convertible -Same as above except orange.

11-09-2014, 06:14 PM	#18
Denis Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Yorktown Heights, NY Posts: 7,695 View My Garage	it doesnt really matter. i can put all the Z/28 parts i want on my SS....doesnt make it a Z. id say youre Z/28 is "protected". __________________

11-09-2014, 09:05 PM	#23
PYROLYSIS Remember the Charleston 9 Drives: 2004 KME PREDATOR, 2014 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Summerv1LE SC Posts: 5,381 View My Garage	Nothing has changed. The parts that GM originally listed as restricted are still restricted like the wheels, brakes and carbon fiber hood insert to name a few. The plan to offer some of the Z/28 parts is still in effect and hasn't changed since it's inception. __________________ BRING BACK THE B4C POLICE CAMARO! 2002 V-6 5 speed rally red (current camaro) Also driven:1992 Z-28 305 auto Red w/ black stripes (anniversary), 2001 V-6 auto light pewter metallic,1991 RS V-6 auto Black

11-10-2014, 06:06 AM	#24
ParisTNDude Owning SSes for 50 Years Drives: Sharkskin Grey LT1 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Paris, TN Posts: 3,139 View My Garage	Like the cloning issue or not, if you watch Barrett Jackson or Mecum car auctions, some of the cloned 60s Camaros are fetching pretty good prices over the bone stockers. I'm sure todays cloning happens because the originals went higher than "sky high" in price, making a well done clone, a viable option. Today's Z28 won't be cloned for quite some time and I believe it would be cheaper to buy an original if you wanted the entire package. GM parts are pretty expensive. __________________ The new ride: 2023 Camaro, LT1, Sharkskin Grey Previous Performance Cars: 1966 Chevelle SS 4M, 2010 Corvette 6M 1968 Dodge Charger R/T Auto 2012 1SS 6M 1982 Corvette Auto 2010 1SS 6A 1984 Corvette Auto 2016 2SS 8A 1999 Camaro Auto 2017 HBM 1SS 1le 2002 C5 Corvette 6M 2018 2SS 2006 Corvette Auto 2023 Camaro LT1

11-10-2014, 08:34 AM	#26
CCMADONNA Drives: 2014 SW 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,681 View My Garage	who's gonna make the after market flowtie, please? gimme a break - a Z/28 IS A Z/28 - there's no doubt about what car it is, let us working folk who can only come up with $30,000 - $40,000 have the freakin' little ornamentation that we can afford. It will NOT devalue your awesome work of art. __________________ 2014 2SS/RS VERT L99 SUMMIT WHITE AIRAID CAI BORLA ATAK CAT-BACK EXHAUST ELITE ENGINEERING CATCH-CAN RANGE AFM-DELETE MODULE HUPER OPTIK 40 CHROME PEDALS PREMIUM FLOOR MATS PREMIUM CARGO MAT DEDICATED 32GB iPHONE HD[/I][/B][IMG][/IMG]

11-09-2014, 04:56 PM	#16
Midnight Rat Drives: SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 1,829	What I was waiting for was the cold air intake which has already been out for awhile. But why if you use it does it void your power train warranty? Specifically says it will in the 2015 performance catalog.

11-09-2014, 08:24 PM	#22
Mongo RS Drives: 2010 2LT M6 RS Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Eastpointe MI Posts: 278	Hmmm.... Somehow I like the idea of full Z/28 gear in a base V6 envelope.....

11-10-2014, 09:17 AM	#27
el ess A Older Than Dirt Drives: 2010 & 2013 Camaros Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Aiken, SC Posts: 4,563	To me, all these arguments one way or another are pointless. If I want some Z/28 specific parts to put on my car, then I will find a way to obtain them, and I will put them on my car, and I STILL won't give two flying f***s whether you have a hissy fit or not about it. Example- I like the grille, but don't give a flip about the flowtie. Rear spoiler is cool, so I might add that. Center scoop on the hood- why not? But as far as posing, that's not something I would care to do. Never have. Be proud of what you have, and enjoy modding the car YOU want. My advice- if you want to mod, then mod. If you really want a Z/28 but think you can't afford one, then don't spend a dime on your current car and save that and more, so you can buy yourself a real Z/28. As with the ZL1, there will be SOME people out there that just want the latest and greatest thing without regard to whether it makes sense. After the purchase, they're no longer hyped about it, and after a while, there will be some used ones out there, albeit more rare to find. The hunt is more appealing to them than field dressing the kill. __________________ 2010 2SS TE, 1 of 822/2013 Camaro ZL1 vert, 1 of 54

11-10-2014, 09:53 AM	#28
90503 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Torrance Posts: 14,420	GM even waded in on the "cloning issue".....The very reason they give for the restriction in the first sentence is very telling...