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'11ls3camaro · 08-18-2018, 01:33 PM

Just what the title says. Who here runs a stock bottom end with any kind of forced induction? Any problems? Detonation? I appreciate your guys time and input in advance.

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mrimpala02 · 08-18-2018, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by '11ls3camaro

Just what the title says. Who here runs a stock bottom end with any kind of forced induction? Any problems? Detention? I appreciate your guys time and input in advance.

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Been running forced induction for 6 years. Between 10 -16 psi or 700 - 800 rwhp 93+meth. The key is good fuel system and good tuning.

nx85y5 · 08-18-2018, 04:44 PM

I run a Whipple with 3.875 pulley 9.9 psi no issues. I have some fuel system upgrades - ID850, LPE dual fuel pumps - plus headers and CAI intake and 3" flowmaster exhaust. Like nearly any mod, the tuning is the key. A bad tuner can kill a stock motor. A great tuner can let you daily drive decent boost numbers and high HP builds wild builds. Mine is tuned by JRE and I have no complaints. He was great with providing what I was looking for and explaining more HP can be gained by sacrificing safety incrementally and offering me the opportunity to increase if I wanted to. There are several other great tuners out there, but that's the only one I've dealt with. He was incredibly responsive to all calls and emails and that's what you want if you're going to invest in boost/cam/etc. Shop around and feel comfortable, they make or break your build not the parts and you should heed their advice on what parts and combinations work well and don't. The tune is the brains of the operation. You don't want a brain dead car.

'11ls3camaro · 08-18-2018, 04:52 PM

Right now I have the trick flow heads and cam kit from summit, long tubes with off roads cats, zl1 pump and injectors, and aem cai. I’m really wanting to supercharge or procharge it, I just don’t want to destroy my motor.

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nx85y5 · 08-18-2018, 04:57 PM

The as purchased kits are fairly conservative and give decent gains whether turbo or super charged. I think you'll be fine and soon find yourself wanting to up the boost. Get a reputable tuner. Ask then if they've tuned similar setups and they'll likely tell you what kind of HP you'll expect at what reliability. Most will have a safe and max tune with at least one inbetween.

'11ls3camaro · 08-18-2018, 05:04 PM

Thank you for sharing your guys knowledge and experiences. I truly appreciate it all.

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Hippy · 08-18-2018, 05:16 PM

Eforce, cam, arh headers 3" 850id injectors, meth, zl1 pump amd controller etc.
Tuned by Ted Jennettey
Stock bottom end
Starts and drives as stock..

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FrankieBee · 08-20-2018, 11:52 AM

Procharger 1DSC, JDP Motorsports Stage 3 blower cam, ARH with stock catback, ZL1 pump, AUS injectors, MSD Boost A Bump, 93 octane fuel and a great tune- 729 RWHP 698 RWTQ on 8 lbs of boost on a Mustang Dynamometer. Stock bottom end, car runs fantastic!

BiggFoot · 08-20-2018, 12:33 PM

LOL, I doubt many are pushing the envelope any harder than I am on an SBE. LS3 is a tough block but like others have already stated its all about the fuel delivery, tune, how you drive it, and a little luck doesn't hurt either.

UBB · 08-20-2018, 01:24 PM

I am.

agent5 · 08-20-2018, 04:11 PM

I had a procharger i1 bolt on + intercooler + tune at around 500hp with a dyno dynamics (heart breaker dyno), had this for about 3 years. Currently getting D1SC 10PSI with Dynatech headers and cats, aiming for 550-600. All stock bottom and even clutch has held up with absolutely no issue. I suspect 650 rwhp is the upper limit I would feel safe as a daily driver reliability. I think you could push it more but I wouldn't fall off my chair in shock if someone reported something breaking on the bottom end at that point.

sscamaro · 08-20-2018, 05:37 PM

Edelbrock E-Force has been on my 2010 SS since 9/2010 with 15K miles om it.
It now has 63K miles on it with no problems. See adders listed below.

ZZZTOPZZZ · 08-21-2018, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by '11ls3camaro

Just what the title says. Who here runs a stock bottom end with any kind of forced induction? Any problems? Detonation? I appreciate your guys time and input in advance.

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I do - Procharger installed last December. A good tune and you'll have no problems. Strictly a street machine so far. MPG about the same as long as you keep your foot off the fire wall.

08-18-2018, 01:33 PM	#1
'11ls3camaro Drives: 2011 camaro ss Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Phoenix Posts: 52	Supercharger with a stock bottom end no E85. Just what the title says. Who here runs a stock bottom end with any kind of forced induction? Any problems? Detonation? I appreciate your guys time and input in advance. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by '11ls3camaro; 08-18-2018 at 02:09 PM.

08-18-2018, 04:57 PM	#5
nx85y5 Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS RS Synergy package Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 29	The as purchased kits are fairly conservative and give decent gains whether turbo or super charged. I think you'll be fine and soon find yourself wanting to up the boost. Get a reputable tuner. Ask then if they've tuned similar setups and they'll likely tell you what kind of HP you'll expect at what reliability. Most will have a safe and max tune with at least one inbetween. __________________ Whipple 2.9, 3.875 pulley @ 10psi, ID850, LPE dual pumps, Kooks 1 7/8 headers with no cats, CAI intake, 3" flowmaster OG 40 exhaust, stock TC and trans and rear diff. Tuned by JRE. ZL1 frontend conversion. Future mods: Alky Control (in hand waiting to install) BTR stage 3 PD cam 1LE conversion 417 forged stroker kit

08-18-2018, 05:16 PM	#7
Hippy Hotwheels Drives: Hotwheels Edition Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: New Jersey Posts: 382 View My Garage	Eforce, cam, arh headers 3" 850id injectors, meth, zl1 pump amd controller etc. Tuned by Ted Jennettey Stock bottom end Starts and drives as stock.. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk __________________ Parts for Sale 2013 2SS Hot Wheels Edition 734 of 1524

08-20-2018, 11:52 AM	#8
FrankieBee Drives: 2015 Commemorative Edition Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Holbrook NY Posts: 285	Procharger 1DSC, JDP Motorsports Stage 3 blower cam, ARH with stock catback, ZL1 pump, AUS injectors, MSD Boost A Bump, 93 octane fuel and a great tune- 729 RWHP 698 RWTQ on 8 lbs of boost on a Mustang Dynamometer. Stock bottom end, car runs fantastic! __________________ 2015 Commemorative Edition Procharger D1SC - JDP ZR1 Cam - FAST LSX 102 intake, ARH , 729.7 RWHP 698 RWTQ

08-20-2018, 12:33 PM	#9
BiggFoot Drives: 2010 Camaro (M6) 1000+ HP SBE Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 1,391	LOL, I doubt many are pushing the envelope any harder than I am on an SBE. LS3 is a tough block but like others have already stated its all about the fuel delivery, tune, how you drive it, and a little luck doesn't hurt either. __________________ F-1X, Cog Drive, ATI Super Pulley/Sprag ~ 19 psi Blower Cam Brodix BP BR 3 Heads Kooks LT Headers and full 3" exhaust Fore Triple Pump Fuel System with ID 1700X Injectors - E85 conversion DSS 9” Conversion (1400 hp axles, driveshaft, pumpkin) & Strange 3.70 gears McLeod RXT Twin HD Clutch & Upgraded Slave RPM Level VII TR6060 BMR Drag Suspension Package w/Strange shocks Carlyle 15" and M/T ET Street R radials 10.1 @ 143 mph 1/4 mile

08-18-2018, 04:44 PM	#3
nx85y5 Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS RS Synergy package Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 29	I run a Whipple with 3.875 pulley 9.9 psi no issues. I have some fuel system upgrades - ID850, LPE dual fuel pumps - plus headers and CAI intake and 3" flowmaster exhaust. Like nearly any mod, the tuning is the key. A bad tuner can kill a stock motor. A great tuner can let you daily drive decent boost numbers and high HP builds wild builds. Mine is tuned by JRE and I have no complaints. He was great with providing what I was looking for and explaining more HP can be gained by sacrificing safety incrementally and offering me the opportunity to increase if I wanted to. There are several other great tuners out there, but that's the only one I've dealt with. He was incredibly responsive to all calls and emails and that's what you want if you're going to invest in boost/cam/etc. Shop around and feel comfortable, they make or break your build not the parts and you should heed their advice on what parts and combinations work well and don't. The tune is the brains of the operation. You don't want a brain dead car.

08-18-2018, 04:52 PM	#4
'11ls3camaro Drives: 2011 camaro ss Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Phoenix Posts: 52	Right now I have the trick flow heads and cam kit from summit, long tubes with off roads cats, zl1 pump and injectors, and aem cai. I’m really wanting to supercharge or procharge it, I just don’t want to destroy my motor. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08-18-2018, 05:04 PM	#6
'11ls3camaro Drives: 2011 camaro ss Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Phoenix Posts: 52	Thank you for sharing your guys knowledge and experiences. I truly appreciate it all. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08-20-2018, 01:24 PM	#10
UBB Drives: 2018 ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Bismarck Posts: 572 View My Garage	I am.

08-20-2018, 04:11 PM	#11
agent5 Drives: 2013 Camaro SS (+RS) + Hurst+ DME Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Saint Louis, MO,United States Posts: 147	I had a procharger i1 bolt on + intercooler + tune at around 500hp with a dyno dynamics (heart breaker dyno), had this for about 3 years. Currently getting D1SC 10PSI with Dynatech headers and cats, aiming for 550-600. All stock bottom and even clutch has held up with absolutely no issue. I suspect 650 rwhp is the upper limit I would feel safe as a daily driver reliability. I think you could push it more but I wouldn't fall off my chair in shock if someone reported something breaking on the bottom end at that point.

08-20-2018, 05:37 PM	#12
sscamaro Drives: 2010 2SS, 2017 Silverado LTZ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Denver,PA Posts: 3,195 View My Garage	Edelbrock E-Force has been on my 2010 SS since 9/2010 with 15K miles om it. It now has 63K miles on it with no problems. See adders listed below. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS Victory Red, MN6, 1-7/8 Kooks LT Headers, SLP Axle Back, Edelbrock E-Force S/C, ZL1 Fuel Pump, 72# Injectors, JRE fuel rail upgrade, Roto-Fab CAI, Elite Catch Can, Billet Hurst Shifter, DSS 1000HP axles, Spohn Trailing Arms, Toe Links, Lower Control Arms. Chrome American Racing Torq-Thrust wheels. 546/rwhp & 522/rwtq & 10.9# boost Tune by Jeremy Formato.