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Old 04-01-2013, 07:25 PM   #15
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Well there doing test & tune april 26 at SGMS going to disconnect it and see if it help's. If it dose it's coming out.
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Old 04-01-2013, 07:30 PM   #16
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Old 04-03-2013, 08:36 PM   #17
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I would never take the sway bar off a IRS car,its squats plenty on its on.What you will have is an ill handiling car.
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Old 04-03-2013, 08:46 PM   #18
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I've had mine off for over a year. Guys that want straightline performance don't care about handling so much.
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:18 AM   #19
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I've had mine off for over a year. Guys that want straightline performance don't care about handling so much.
Do you drive it much on the HWY? l do drive a little from time to time.
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:48 AM   #20
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My car is a daily driver. You'd be suprised how minimal the handling difference is.
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Old 04-04-2013, 07:24 AM   #21
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I've had mine off for over a year. Guys that want straightline performance don't care about handling so much.
Understood ↑↑↑ .

But I'd be surprised if removing the front bar as a mod all by itself was worth more than a hundredth or so in an IRS car. Sure, if you go from frequently losing by a few thou to winning by a few thou. Even just for the bragging rights of making a single 9.99x pass vs a whole string of 10.00x's, it'd probably be worth it. Otherwise, it gets quite a bit harder to make a sound case.


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My car is a daily driver. You'd be suprised how minimal the handling difference is.
In mild up to maybe moderate driving the differences aren't going to be huge. As long as your daily driving never has to step outside that realm, you probably will be OK. I've driven older cars that had bad endlink bushings where the front bar didn't start doing anything until the car was already rolled over a bit and it wasn't anything you couldn't cope with in normal driving.


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I would never take the sway bar off a IRS car,its squats plenty on its on.What you will have is an ill handiling car.
FWIW, any effect that either the front or rear bar has on 'squat' is strictly incidental; squat is not something that the bars are intended to directly resist.


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Old 04-09-2013, 05:43 PM   #22
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On a solid axle removing the front sway bar will help out a lot. IRS...... will do nothing but drop some weight and allow for some crappy handling.
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:49 PM   #23
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On a solid axle removing the front sway bar will help out a lot. IRS...... will do nothing but drop some weight and allow for some crappy handling.
Why not on the IRS?????
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Old 04-10-2013, 04:44 PM   #24
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To each their own. I all I know is I pulled a !.48 on stock suspension with it off.
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Why not on the IRS?????
Because the big way it helps a stick-axle car is virtually without any effect at all on an IRS car. Losing a few lbs of steel down low and up front is the little effect that still does help.

In a little more detail, an IRS car is almost completely free from unloading the RR tire due to driveline torque, and there is little or no overall chassis roll due to the engine torque reaction either. IOW, the RR doesn't need help like it does with a stick axle to begin with, and you don't have any help available that you could use by losing the front bar or installing a huge rear antiroll bar, either.

This is actually a lot easier to understand coming from a corner-carving background.



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Old 04-10-2013, 05:29 PM   #26
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Why not on the IRS?????
Has everything to do with weight transfer. An IRS transfers weight back and forth completely different from a straight axle in most cases. It depends on the setup of course, but for the most part they considerably different. Removing it will not get you better 60' (again on most setups....not all), but will cause more swaying on the big end ESPECIALLY with slicks. DR's you may or may not be able to tell too much of a difference. Leave it on and buy some adjustable end links and take it to a shop that knows how to set it up for drag racing...take it down the track and enjoy the handling, especially if the car gets outta control a bit. You will be glad you have it on there if you recover from a bad spin around 320'.

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