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blufin · 10-15-2013, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusticePete

If you canceled your Z/28 order, now would be a good time to call or email your dealer.

There is a wealth of information that came out of the media day at Milford got the Z/28. Some on the record. Some off the record. The six seconds are not guess work or hypothetical. There is more in the car than people think. My best guess is a return to the Ring will produce lap times just under 7:30. I'll let the media step in because I am not sure what is on the record or off the record.

Given that your mole was correct about the 'Ring times before they were published, I am inclined to believe what you're saying.

PYROLYSIS · 10-15-2013, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 90503

My uneducated guess would be perhaps the Z/28 was considered a "track-capable" car already and tested as such....Perhaps the ZL=1 was not in the same "category"....

Could be. Maybe the driver talked them into not installing it to keep the weight down and produce a more realistic time.

Mikamaro · 10-15-2013, 10:15 PM

I've been waiting 4 years to actually post a comment is this thread...
I guess I was waiing fo the Z to come out in a bashing fashion!
I'm going to stick with you guys for a while... it's hard to find my place in this forum nowadays.
I feel like the Z is actually reaching more of my interets in Motorsport.
I think I'm a candidate for owning one.

ShnOmac · 10-15-2013, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikamaro

I've been waiting 4 years to actually post a comment is this thread...
I guess I was waiing fo the Z to come out in a bashing fashion!
I'm going to stick with you guys for a while... it's hard to find my place in this forum nowadays.
I feel like the Z is actually reaching more of my interets in Motorsport.
I think I'm a candidate for owning one.

Welcome to the Houz!

ShnOmac · 10-15-2013, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusticePete

If you canceled your Z/28 order, now would be a good time to call or email your dealer.

There is a wealth of information that came out of the media day at Milford got the Z/28. Some on the record. Some off the record. The six seconds are not guess work or hypothetical. There is more in the car than people think. My best guess is a return to the Ring will produce lap times just under 7:30. I'll let the media step in because I am not sure what is on the record or off the record.

I'm on the search for news....

JusticePete · 10-15-2013, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

I'm on the search for news....

You are the right man for the job!

ShnOmac · 10-16-2013, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusticePete

You are the right man for the job!

Getting closer to your under 7:30 comment....

"Oppenheiser notes. He says the car posted 7:31.9 in dry testing, although that is not considered an official time because cameras were not rolling."

*radz28* · 10-16-2013, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

Getting closer to your under 7:30 comment....

"Oppenheiser notes. He says the car posted 7:31.9 in dry testing, although that is not considered an official time because cameras were not rolling."

I don't think I've ever thought Z/28 would break the '30s, and it's not that what GM has officially released is bad at all, but a low '30s is what I thought would be a reasonable expectation, all things considered.

I'm looking forward to more info'

ShnOmac · 10-16-2013, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radz28

I'm looking forward to more info'

Trust me I am digging....

But I have a feeling you already know what I will find....

JusticePete · 10-16-2013, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShnOmac

Trust me I am digging....

But I have a feeling you already know what I will find....

Let's just say I guess well.

ShnOmac · 10-16-2013, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Let's just say I guess well.

Yeah, we will go with that.

Number 3 · 10-16-2013, 08:01 PM

So the Z/28 section is now so busy that The House falls rapidly to the middle of the page. Nice!

But let's recap the recent events.

A video gets posted with a 9:37 placing it in rare company.

With the sound on and not giving a crap about the clock, the sound track is pure, absolute, unadulterated, awesomeness. This reminds me of my Ducati 916 with the carbon exhaust. I used to ride it around just to hear it. I would do the same with this car and I would want to do it every day.

GM also declares the time is not THE time. It is actually slower than THE time because the track was wet and windshield wipers slow the car down

or some such nonsense. So there is or will be more to come. So we are victims to GMs marketing machine that has even the Honda Civic website ablaze with love and hate. This will only be duplicated when and if GM goes BACK to the 'ring and runs a 7:31 moving well up the chart. Part of me feels like a sucker because we got sucked in only to be sucked in again later. Yes, I fell for it too.

We are still waiting on 2 simple and key pieces of information that will either clarify this or fragment this discussion.

The first is the price of the Z/28. We and many speculate this will not be a cheap car and may be in the $70,000 plus rang. Which relative to the cars the Z/28 lives next to on the LIST will make that seem cheap by comparison.

But the 2nd piece of information, and perhaps one GM may be withholding (and I say this because the car is for sale and we don't know the 'ring time) is the C7 Z51. Here is a car that is in the middle 50s and is a pure wonderment in it's own right. If the Z51 runs the ring at or about the same time as the Z/28 will that diminish what the Z/28 is????? And is that why GM has not posted Z51 'ring time? Not a conspiracy theorist by nature, but I'm guessing we are seeing the result of marketing at play here.

So now what do you pick in that case? A rare and expensive Camaro that even GM says you SHOULDN'T drive every day or a car that has all the refinement you could want and can run with the other car all day? I worked on Corvette. I've driven a lot of Corvettes. I can't imagine that the Z51, only a tick behind a Z06, can't run with the Z/28.

So for me those are the two questions left to be answered. The Z vs. THE Z. But a winning lotto ticket would make that a moot point now wouldn't it?

JusticePete · 10-16-2013, 08:08 PM

Is it too late for me to buy a lottery ticket?

Number 3 · 10-16-2013, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Is it too late for me to buy a lottery ticket?

I bought mine on the home tonight. So the odds I get Z/28 ANNNNND a C7 Z51 are about 1 in 175,000,000. Seems legit.

10-15-2013, 10:15 PM	#13653
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10-16-2013, 08:01 PM	#13662
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,170 View My Garage	So the Z/28 section is now so busy that The House falls rapidly to the middle of the page. Nice! But let's recap the recent events. A video gets posted with a 9:37 placing it in rare company. With the sound on and not giving a crap about the clock, the sound track is pure, absolute, unadulterated, awesomeness. This reminds me of my Ducati 916 with the carbon exhaust. I used to ride it around just to hear it. I would do the same with this car and I would want to do it every day. GM also declares the time is not THE time. It is actually slower than THE time because the track was wet and windshield wipers slow the car down or some such nonsense. So there is or will be more to come. So we are victims to GMs marketing machine that has even the Honda Civic website ablaze with love and hate. This will only be duplicated when and if GM goes BACK to the 'ring and runs a 7:31 moving well up the chart. Part of me feels like a sucker because we got sucked in only to be sucked in again later. Yes, I fell for it too. We are still waiting on 2 simple and key pieces of information that will either clarify this or fragment this discussion. The first is the price of the Z/28. We and many speculate this will not be a cheap car and may be in the $70,000 plus rang. Which relative to the cars the Z/28 lives next to on the LIST will make that seem cheap by comparison. But the 2nd piece of information, and perhaps one GM may be withholding (and I say this because the car is for sale and we don't know the 'ring time) is the C7 Z51. Here is a car that is in the middle 50s and is a pure wonderment in it's own right. If the Z51 runs the ring at or about the same time as the Z/28 will that diminish what the Z/28 is????? And is that why GM has not posted Z51 'ring time? Not a conspiracy theorist by nature, but I'm guessing we are seeing the result of marketing at play here. So now what do you pick in that case? A rare and expensive Camaro that even GM says you SHOULDN'T drive every day or a car that has all the refinement you could want and can run with the other car all day? I worked on Corvette. I've driven a lot of Corvettes. I can't imagine that the Z51, only a tick behind a Z06, can't run with the Z/28. So for me those are the two questions left to be answered. The Z vs. THE Z. But a winning lotto ticket would make that a moot point now wouldn't it? __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

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