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Old 08-24-2013, 05:22 PM   #2199
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No changes other than putting the passenger seat back in and adding some weight to bring a passenger down to the track. The weather was a little bit nicer which more than made up for the added weight, D/A was +1100 at the time of this pass. Sorry Rhino79, had to bump ya out of the #2 spot for now. Hoping to be the fastest stock block N/A 5th gen soon!

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Nice! Are you still on 20" Drag radials?
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:09 PM   #2200
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Let's just say they make 80rwhp more than my SS did....
And they're 200lbs lighter (100 for the driver and 100 for seats and lighweight wheels and tires)....
I don't see a problem with them running 8-10mph faster than I did.

I think what makes it hard to believe is how many cars on this site don't run an ET or MPH close to what their car should be capable of based on their claimed rwhp.


agree......too far apart with the same rwhp. Do you really believe that the driver's weight makes a different? And if that's case loosing all of that weight should be indicated as an additional modification. I think that is misleading when it is not mentioned. If these cars are setup for drag racing only, then I need to rest my case. Most SS cam cars accompanied by supporting mods, should have a trap speed of around 114/115. Anything way beyond that, then I become curious. Later this fall, I will find out with my car at the track before I make any further judgement. I am in no way trying to knock anyone.....I just feel sorry for the guys that has a substantial amount of horsepower but unable to lay down big time trap speed (120 to 125 mph) or a least get close to it.
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:46 PM   #2201
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What are you guys doing to get that kind of trap speed out of a heavy car? This is becoming a mystery for sure. The average cammed Camaros are around 114/115 trap speed. Actually, it just does not make sense.
Most modded ZL1 can not run that fast.....even with a track setup. It is so mind boggling. I saw a bone stock ZL1 auto go 11.99/118 at the Capitol Raceway in Maryland. It's just difficult for me to believe that some of these SS's are 1 second faster with 5 more trap speed than a ZL1 with 580 hp at the crank with a average of 490 rwhp. I believe in the times that are attained, however it's just something else is going on. Some of the guys are spending a tremendous amount of money and still do not get close to those numbers. I definitely don't want to offend anyone.....it is just my opinion on the matter.
If my cammed SS only trapped 115 I would sell it, hell that's what I trapped with bolt ons......a cammed car should have non problem trapping 120+.
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:54 PM   #2202
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Nice! Are you still on 20" Drag radials?
No, 17 inch weld wheels, the 17 inch wheels and tires knocked 85 lbs off the car. Also 1.5 inch smaller diameter rear tire, I will try and post a pic later. I think maybe I will do a build thread to with everything that's done to it as well, and explain a few things.
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Old 08-24-2013, 07:24 PM   #2203
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If my cammed SS only trapped 115 I would sell it, hell that's what I trapped with bolt ons......a cammed car should have non problem trapping 120+.
And if my car that trapped 115 only went 12.22, I'd sell it too.
Nine cars on the fast list at 120+. 9.
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Old 08-24-2013, 07:34 PM   #2204
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By the way, the first ZL1 we worked on that we used to develop our ZL1 CAI system for, ran 11.4 @ 121 mph when we track tested it, with only our CAI, drag radials, and New Era tuning. Yes the ZL1 has more power, but it is also much heavier. My car is about 500 lbs less than a ZL1, so using the standard 100 lbs is worth 1 tenth and 1 mph faster, that ZL1 would have ran 10.9 @ 126 which is basically what my car does.

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Old 08-24-2013, 07:58 PM   #2205
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By the way, the first ZL1 we worked on that we used to develop our ZL1 CAI system for, ran 11.4 @ 121 mph when we track tested it, with only our CAI, drag radials, and New Era tuning. Yes the ZL1 has more power, but it is also much heavier. My car is about 500 lbs less than a ZL1, so using the standard 100 lbs is worth 1 tenth and 1 mph faster, that ZL1 would have ran 10.9 @ 126 which is basically what my car does.

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Well now that makes sense, 500 lbs less. I just think some of the guys are leaving out a little more pertinent information about their modifications. If you lost weight then say so. My cammed C6 2005 LS2 with 432 rwhp could only trap no more than 112 mph. I was not disappointed because there were not many street cars running above that. The exact same day, there were two SS Camaros with the same horsepower, no cam, running around 109/110 trap speed. Both guys were curious because they thought I had way less horsepower. I finally told them that I had a cam. Evidently the weight was the big difference between our cars. I run in hot Florida......so our times are going to be much different from the boys up North, where I use to live. thanks.
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Old 08-24-2013, 08:00 PM   #2206
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And if my car that trapped 115 only went 12.22, I'd sell it too.
Nine cars on the fast list at 120+. 9.
115 trap speed is fast too me for a street car/occasional driving. Your previous car is fine with me, White 2SS/RS. You have indicated everything that you have done to your car to the upmost. It appeared that you put down a better 60ft and better air at the track in order to get 115. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks
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Old 08-24-2013, 08:06 PM   #2207
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My car does not have 500 lbs in weight reduction, just to be clear. ZL1's weigh more than the SS's do, correct me if I am wrong but I think ZL1's are about 250 lbs heavier. We have done about 250 lbs of weight reduction to my car to run this fast (approximately 3750 lb current race weight with driver), and it dyno's at 475 rwhp.
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Old 08-24-2013, 08:17 PM   #2208
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My car does not have 500 lbs in weight reduction, just to be clear. ZL1's weigh more than the SS's do, correct me if I am wrong but I think ZL1's are about 250 lbs heavier. We have done about 250 lbs of weight reduction to my car to run this fast (approximately 3750 lb current race weight with driver), and it dyno's at 475 rwhp.
Your build sheet would pretty much support and justify everything that I am talking about. And you just told me something I did not know about total weight of the ZL1. Because down here in Florida most bone stock ZL1 can only muster around between 113-114 trap speed. Thanks
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Old 08-24-2013, 09:38 PM   #2209
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And if my car that trapped 115 only went 12.22, I'd sell it too.
Nine cars on the fast list at 120+. 9.
If your cammed car went 12.22 I would have sold it also.
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Old 08-24-2013, 10:43 PM   #2210
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If your cammed car went 12.22 I would have sold it also.
LOL.. I did.
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LOL.. I did.
Haha. At least it looked good!
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:06 AM   #2212
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It's all about using ALL the power you have! My car only dynoed 388 rwhp and has ran 11.62 @ 117.90 with a 1.62 60ft! With just bolt-on's.
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