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JStampf · 11-15-2021, 06:44 AM

Getting some hop off the line. Finding that I either blow the rubber off the car or I grab and get some wheel hop in 1st gear mid range.

I am going to lean towards suspension for this one, any good recommendations? mostly just a street car so I don't need to go over the top but could use an upgrade.

2012 2SS 6spd

FasNuf · 11-15-2021, 07:01 AM

https://youtu.be/UFbXqmmENpY

Here's another shameless self promoting video showing what I did. Eliminated most wheel hop.
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JStampf · 11-15-2021, 07:08 AM

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https://youtu.be/UFbXqmmENpY

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Great thank you. Nice car!

1JEWLDSSRS · 11-15-2021, 08:22 AM

I got rid of all of mine by installing solid cradle bushings on the recomendation of Ryan at JDP Motorsports, and it worked, no more, and I haven't done any other suspension mods at all. She is also just a street car.

TheFlyingBananaSS · 11-15-2021, 10:59 AM

I did solid cradle bushings, toe rods, trailing arms, delrin control arm bushings. Zero hop.

Car Nation Videos · 11-18-2021, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FasNuf

https://youtu.be/UFbXqmmENpY

Here's another shameless self promoting video showing what I did. Eliminated most wheel hop.
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Going to watch now

LCPLPunk · 11-19-2021, 05:50 AM

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

acammer · 11-19-2021, 06:16 AM

Rear subframe (cradle) bushings are the only logical place to start - as just about every other rear suspension component (toe rods, trailing arms, etc) are all connected to the rear subframe. So, until the motion of the rear subframe is well controlled with either robust poly, or better yet solid bushings, then changing other components is not all that beneficial.

Also often overlooked are the rear differential bushings - upgrading to a poly bushing here can also help remove some twisting motion from the driveline. Do keep in mind that as you replace bushings in the driveline (including the subframe, which "mounts" the driveline) you create a much easier path for driveline noise to enter the cabin of the car. Not every differential is noisy - but they can be, especially with more aggressive aftermarket gears. So, if noise is a concern, definitely stick with poly, and not solid bushings for the rear subframe.

1JEWLDSSRS · 11-19-2021, 08:05 AM

Well said acammer!! Like I said in my previous post, I did the solid subframe bushings on the recomendations of JDP Motorsports as they have several vehicles they track all the time and that works for me. Wheel hop gone, but as acammer said, more rear end noise, but it is tolerable to me, and tight.

Greenhornet2 · 11-19-2021, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 1JEWLDSSRS

Well said acammer!! Like I said in my previous post, I did the solid subframe bushings on the recomendations of JDP Motorsports as they have several vehicles they track all the time and that works for me. Wheel hop gone, but as acammer said, more rear end noise, but it is tolerable to me, and tight.

Cradle bushings for sure. I went with inserts and they didn't do enough. I have toe links trailing arms and offset diff bushings. I still get hop sometimes, not all the time, but enough to be a problem. If I get the motivation I believe I am just going to go with solids. I'm starting work at a dealership next week maybe I'll be able to get a tech that's interested to do it on the side lol. My body does not like working on cars anymore.

CamaroDreams76 · 11-19-2021, 01:16 PM

I did Pfadt trailing arms and toe links. It made a significant improvement with wheel hop. Then I did Pfadt solid subframe bushings and I have very minimal wheel hop now.

BMR Sales · 11-19-2021, 03:05 PM

the Three Basics to get rid of Wheel Hop are;

Cradle Bushings
Trailing arms
Toe Rods

snizzle · 11-19-2021, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroDreams76

I did Pfadt trailing arms and toe links. It made a significant improvement with wheel hop. Then I did Pfadt solid subframe bushings and I have very minimal wheel hop now.

Same. Did the Pfadt Stage 3 pkg (I think Pfadt went under). Eliminated wheel hop and also enabled me to feel every bump in the road

CamaroDreams76 · 11-20-2021, 01:14 AM

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Same. Did the Pfadt Stage 3 pkg (I think Pfadt went under). Eliminated wheel hop and also enabled me to feel every bump in the road

They did but AFE Power bought their designs and manufacture them. In a nutshell AFE is rebranded Pfadt. Or AFE is the new Pfadt. However you want to view it.

11-15-2021, 06:44 AM	#1
JStampf Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS 2003 Silverado SS Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: New York Posts: 6 View My Garage	Getting some wheel hop off the line Getting some hop off the line. Finding that I either blow the rubber off the car or I grab and get some wheel hop in 1st gear mid range. I am going to lean towards suspension for this one, any good recommendations? mostly just a street car so I don't need to go over the top but could use an upgrade. 2012 2SS 6spd

11-15-2021, 07:01 AM	#2
FasNuf Drives: 2014 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,609 View My Garage	https://youtu.be/UFbXqmmENpY Here's another shameless self promoting video showing what I did. Eliminated most wheel hop. . . . . . . . __________________ . . . . https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgN...etl17hA/videos

11-15-2021, 08:22 AM	#4
1JEWLDSSRS Drives: 2011 SS-RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 11,381	I got rid of all of mine by installing solid cradle bushings on the recomendation of Ryan at JDP Motorsports, and it worked, no more, and I haven't done any other suspension mods at all. She is also just a street car. __________________ TSP STAGE 3 CAM,231/246 @112 LSA 614/641 LIFT, CIRCLE D 5C-4200-4500 CONVERTER,LOD INTAKE.CORSA EXHAUST. DSS 1 PC DS. PEGASUS SOLID CRADLE MOUNTS. 486RWHP/475RWTQ.LOTS MORE.

11-15-2021, 10:59 AM	#5
TheFlyingBananaSS Evil Genius of Chevrolet Drives: 2017 Z06, 2019 XTS, 2013 SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New York Posts: 3,260	I did solid cradle bushings, toe rods, trailing arms, delrin control arm bushings. Zero hop. __________________ GPI SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger, Corsa Extreme, Detroit Speed and BMR suspension, Circle D triple disc, Melling oil pump, LS2 chain tensioner, ATI 10% UD, DSX E85 kit, High Energy coils, BTR springs, LS2 Lifter trays, Titanium retainers, hardened push rods, FIC 1000 injectors, ZL1 pump, Mighty Mouse catch can, AEM gauges, Tial BOV, Richmond 3.91 gears, Custom gauge bezels, Speed Engineering headers, Stainless Works HF cats, DSX Aux pump, 710rwhp on E85.

11-19-2021, 05:50 AM	#7
LCPLPunk USA-1 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Near DC Posts: 1,893 View My Garage	https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 __________________ "A Camaro in the garage is safe, but that's not what Camaros are built for..." R2C CAI / Apex Scoop / VMAX Ported TB / Speed Engineering LTHs / X-pipe / GPI port/rod-mod intake manifold / Circle D 3200 278mm Converter / 3.91 gears / DynoSteve tuned / 1LE Shocks/Struts/Toe Links / ZL1 Rear Sway Bar / Z/28 Trailing arms / Prothane Radius Arm & Subframe Bushings / BMR UCA Bracket, Steering rack bushing / B&M Tranny Cooler / RX Catch Can / Jannetty Tranny Dipstick / 2012+ Heater Hose / 2013+ Rearview Mirror / Fuel rail flip / Drake shifter / Oil Cooler Delete

11-19-2021, 06:16 AM	#8
acammer GPI Sales Consultant Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS SGM Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Weedsport, NY Posts: 2,794 View My Garage	Rear subframe (cradle) bushings are the only logical place to start - as just about every other rear suspension component (toe rods, trailing arms, etc) are all connected to the rear subframe. So, until the motion of the rear subframe is well controlled with either robust poly, or better yet solid bushings, then changing other components is not all that beneficial. Also often overlooked are the rear differential bushings - upgrading to a poly bushing here can also help remove some twisting motion from the driveline. Do keep in mind that as you replace bushings in the driveline (including the subframe, which "mounts" the driveline) you create a much easier path for driveline noise to enter the cabin of the car. Not every differential is noisy - but they can be, especially with more aggressive aftermarket gears. So, if noise is a concern, definitely stick with poly, and not solid bushings for the rear subframe. __________________ GPI Max Package 2.0: Brodix BR7 heads/GPI porting, MAX3 cam, ST2116LSR, BSR Max Lift rockers, LS7 LSXR with 103mm TB, Vararam OTR, Mcleod RXT, G-Force/Strange 9" IRS setup with 4.63 gear. 551whp, 11.1@124mph. *Got a question about a GPI product? Feel free to shoot me a message!*

11-19-2021, 08:05 AM	#9
1JEWLDSSRS Drives: 2011 SS-RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 11,381	Well said acammer!! Like I said in my previous post, I did the solid subframe bushings on the recomendations of JDP Motorsports as they have several vehicles they track all the time and that works for me. Wheel hop gone, but as acammer said, more rear end noise, but it is tolerable to me, and tight. __________________ TSP STAGE 3 CAM,231/246 @112 LSA 614/641 LIFT, CIRCLE D 5C-4200-4500 CONVERTER,LOD INTAKE.CORSA EXHAUST. DSS 1 PC DS. PEGASUS SOLID CRADLE MOUNTS. 486RWHP/475RWTQ.LOTS MORE.

11-19-2021, 01:16 PM	#11
CamaroDreams76 Tri-County Camaro SWFL Drives: 2013 IOM 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: South West FL Posts: 3,066 View My Garage	I did Pfadt trailing arms and toe links. It made a significant improvement with wheel hop. Then I did Pfadt solid subframe bushings and I have very minimal wheel hop now. __________________ Just bolt ons........ https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343023

11-19-2021, 03:05 PM	#12
BMR Sales Drives: Race Car Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Seffner, FL Posts: 6,226	the Three Basics to get rid of Wheel Hop are; Cradle Bushings Trailing arms Toe Rods