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Old 11-05-2018, 09:19 AM   #29
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OP, I am struggling with the exact opposite decision of selling my Z and getting a much lighter car like a Cayman or similar.
My needs are track only and the Z is an Ok track car for my driving style.


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What is it about your driving style that makes you want to change to a Cayman? Consumables?
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Old 11-05-2018, 09:57 AM   #30
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What is it about your driving style that makes you want to change to a Cayman? Consumables?
I can't speak for him but a good bit of people who track regularly do not like heavy cars for track duties. The inertia, hp/lb ratio, frontal area... then just the time and efforts to change rotors/pads/fluids/tires (not even talking about the money that needs allotted). Heavier the car, the more that works against everything involved

All depends what YOU want.

My buddy has a ~2800 lb e36 M3 hill climb car, full cage, aero, LS3 swapped 500 rwhp, t56, with 285's square on it. Would destroy a new ZR1 as is with less than $20k total in the car. He's working the fenders/qtrs over the winter to accommodate 335's square on it, cutting more weight too.
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Old 11-05-2018, 10:07 PM   #31
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I bought my Z used in May of this year and absolutely love it. The first night I drove it home from Denver to Fort Collins I stopped at the gas station to fill it up. I mistakenly pulled up to the wrong side of the gas pump as it is the opposite of my mustang. I started it back up and burbled over to the other side. A couple of other cars were there getting gas. While I was filling up a guy came from behind me and said “ Excuse me sir! I just have to ask you. What the Hell is that thing!?” I said, “It is a Z/28. You need to get one man.” He replied “yeah right, I am stuck driving this grandma car. By the way I saw those 4 tailpipes and heard that exhaust and needed to know!”

I have had nothing but fun since. Hoping to take it to The Big Willow track next spring.
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Old 11-06-2018, 08:17 PM   #32
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Road course -- mainly NE... WGI, LRP, Pocono, Summit Point, VIR, Mid-Ohio, etc..
Hrmm, how exactly does the Z/28 not fit your style? I figured you'd be an autocross racer that likes the tiny twisty courses to not like a Z. The Z/28 should shine on those road courses.
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Old 11-06-2018, 08:46 PM   #33
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We sound like similar stories for sure.

BTW - you won't love the NJ tracks... I've got thousands of laps on all of the tracks you've mentioned (sans Monticello) as well as plenty of time down in Millville and can attest that NJMP does not compare. But try them you must! You'll know what I mean after a weekend there.

My Cayman is a great sports car, but I own the 2.7, it's stock and it is just too slow. I just made a mistake in buying it. It hangs in better at the Glen where you can keep up pace, but it's ever so frustrating to drive at a place like Summit Point where you have to dig hard from T1 and coming out of the carousel. I miss some of my old race cars, but have no energy to deal with a strictly track car any longer.

I was taken with the Z28 since it was re-introduced and I watched all the videos with Pobst and Harris driving them. Now I just can't wait and need to dump the Porsche before I do something stupid like install a lift in my one car just to fit a Z!

I have raced both NJMP tracks. About 7 years ago I ran a 944S2 at Lightning and won (NASA race). First time there. Ran a 1:15 lap.

Two years later I raced at Thunderbolt in the Cayman in an ITC race. Liked it except for the Octopus, too rough on the car and tires. Started 25th, finished 5th. Don't recall lap times.


I have an old race buddy, Bobby Brown, who owns four vintage race cars and has a villa there. He is a Chevy dealer and tracks a ZL1 1LE. He invited me down next season so I am planning to go.


Good luck on your track car decision. Most of the time I always think I made a mistake and bought the wrong car, but I am enjoying both the Z and the Cayman on the track (the Cayman has roughly 325 RWHP), the Z about 542 RWHP).
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Old 11-07-2018, 01:23 AM   #34
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What is it about your driving style that makes you want to change to a Cayman? Consumables?

Consumables and weight are my issues.
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Old 11-07-2018, 03:37 PM   #35
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Good luck on your track car decision. Most of the time I always think I made a mistake and bought the wrong car, but I am enjoying both the Z and the Cayman on the track (the Cayman has roughly 325 RWHP), the Z about 542 RWHP).

I usually feel the same way... but the 275 crank HP of the Cayman clearly was the wrong decision.
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