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larry_g · 08-23-2020, 08:22 AM

I'm kinda partial to the Whipple, so far it's been a good experience although I would like more torque.

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fz4k98 · 08-23-2020, 10:44 AM

I'm real happy with whipple. Don't even know it's there until I get on it. Other than changing plugs every 20k it has been maintenance free for 27k +miles.

Now, all the other drivetrain parts it's broken due to power is a different story but was expected.

sscamaro · 08-23-2020, 12:08 PM

I have an Edelbrock E-Force roots S/C. See mods below in signature.

546/rwhp and 522/rwtq. 642 HP at the crank.

Silver14 · 08-23-2020, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by camarodoob1

Not opposed to turbo either, have just always heard they are complicated. I was just looking at the Turbonetics single 76. Is it as simple to install as they claim?

I don't think turbos are any more complex than a supercharger. No belt, brackets, and pulleys to deal with no crank pinning. Hardest part of going FI is probably swapping out fuel pumps, either by dropping the tank or cutting a hole under the rear seat.

As TTshovel said, AGP is the way to go on these cars if you want turbos. Also look into the ESS Tuning and ECS Supercharger kits if you want a centri.

Js2fst · 08-23-2020, 06:16 PM

What the heat and failures? And heat soak, 13 psi with 806 conservative horsepower

RupertPupkin · 08-23-2020, 06:50 PM

I like my ECS...

JANNETTYRACING · 08-26-2020, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by camarodoob1

I have seen a lot of differing opinions on Maggie vs. Whipple vs. Centrifugal, etc.
I have a 2011 LS3, with cold air, 1 7/8 Stainless Power longtubes with hi flo cats, and StainlessWorks Retro Chambered with rdp remote tune.
About ready to pull the trigger on forced induction, just want to get everyone's thoughts. I want as much power possible without grenading the bottom end or drivetrain. What direction would you guys recommend?

We have seen some amazing performance from the new Whipple 2.9s

Here is a recent example

I offer this package with remote custom tuning.

https://www.facebook.com/jannettyrac...02653304160797

Axe55 · 08-26-2020, 08:57 AM

I've had a good experience with my Whipple, been in the car for 3 years, no issues so far and definitely puts a grin on my face when I put my foot into it. I daily drive my car too, and it's not unreasonable on the street.

With the mods you've already got, I'd start at the 3.875" pulley at the biggest.

Big Biscuits · 08-26-2020, 11:07 PM

I like my ESS blower. Belt wrap is great, machine work and layout is top shelf. G3x is a beast on an ls3. BUT...agp would also be a great choice. What’s your power goals? It changes quickly. 1000 is the new 400.

Greenhornet2 · 08-27-2020, 03:45 PM

As far as PD SC's go a smaller blower spinning faster = more torque less peak HP and less overall HP capability. Bigger SC less torque more HP and more overall capability as you can see by my numbers. Torque is what breaks things. Centrifugal are easier on parts as they don't get the low RPM torque punch like the PD does and the power is more of a gradual climb. Same goes for Turbo's with Turbo's being capable of the most HP the easiest. If you are looking to stay stock bottom end any will work as they can all break things if you turn them up enough on the stock bottom end. I like my Whipple and where I am at torque and power wise, more lower end torque and it would be even harder to hook (which I have enough problems with) more HP and I really have to be ready to rebuild the engine but I can get over 900WHP on this whipple. With an lsa/kong or 2650 SC you can get to the 1000WHP mark I think.
Personnaly Whipple > Maggie > Centri (they are also really noisey)
If I were going for over 1K WHP I would be talking to AGP and going twin turbo but I wouldn't be doing it on a stock bottom end.

Mauimax3 · 08-27-2020, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenhornet2

As far as PD SC's go a smaller blower spinning faster = more torque less peak HP and less overall HP capability. Bigger SC less torque more HP and more overall capability as you can see by my numbers. Torque is what breaks things. Centrifugal are easier on parts as they don't get the low RPM torque punch like the PD does and the power is more of a gradual climb. Same goes for Turbo's with Turbo's being capable of the most HP the easiest. If you are looking to stay stock bottom end any will work as they can all break things if you turn them up enough on the stock bottom end. I like my Whipple and where I am at torque and power wise, more lower end torque and it would be even harder to hook (which I have enough problems with) more HP and I really have to be ready to rebuild the engine but I can get over 900WHP on this whipple. With an lsa/kong or 2650 SC you can get to the 1000WHP mark I think.
Personnaly Whipple > Maggie > Centri (they are also really noisey)
If I were going for over 1K WHP I would be talking to AGP and going twin turbo but I wouldn't be doing it on a stock bottom end.

My Maggie is not noisy at all.... I'm fairly certain that if you were to stand next to my car you would not even know it has a supercharger?

Yellow 1 · 08-28-2020, 08:09 AM

I actually wish my Maggi WAS louder! The whine is far too subtle...

chrish70 · 08-28-2020, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camarodoob1

I have seen a lot of differing opinions on Maggie vs. Whipple vs. Centrifugal, etc.
I have a 2011 LS3, with cold air, 1 7/8 Stainless Power longtubes with hi flo cats, and StainlessWorks Retro Chambered with rdp remote tune.
About ready to pull the trigger on forced induction, just want to get everyone's thoughts. I want as much power possible without grenading the bottom end or drivetrain. What direction would you guys recommend?

Go with the whipple system great power and looks impressive under the hood, RDP Dynosteve will hook you up with a great deal as well.

Greenhornet2 · 08-28-2020, 10:26 AM

My comment about being loud was the centrifugal superchargers. Some sound like damn jet engines, I don't like that. My Whipple is so quiet you would never know it had one no whine, no whistle. The only noise it makes is some air noise as the bypass valve is closing. Though I have seen others make more noise than mine, I think I just have an anomaly. Plus my exhaust is loud.

08-23-2020, 08:22 AM	#15
larry_g Drives: 2014 1SS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 437	I'm kinda partial to the Whipple, so far it's been a good experience although I would like more torque. Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk __________________ Daily Driven, 683WHP 554WTQ, Whipple 2.9 @ 8lbs Boost, Tuned by Blevins Tuning on 93 Octane, LSA SBE, ATI LS3 Damper, AFR 260cc Mongoose, ARP Studs, Yella Terra Ultralites, Johnson 2110R, BTR PDS Stage 3, Melling 10355, Improved Racing Baffle, ID1050X, 1LE Fuel Pump, RotoFab CAI, Stainless Works 1-7/8" LTH to 3" Speed Eng w/ NPP, Powermaster 9509 XS, Detroit Speed Motor Mounts, Revshift insert, MGW, Monster LT1-S, GForce 3.5" Aluminum, ZL1 Calipers, DBA Rotors & Pads, Bilstein B6 Struts & Shocks, BMR 1.25" Drop Springs & Adj Rear Bar, Pegasus Solid Bushings, Z/28 Wheels, other misc parts.

08-23-2020, 12:08 PM	#17
sscamaro Drives: 2010 2SS, 2017 Silverado LTZ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Denver,PA Posts: 3,067 View My Garage	I have an Edelbrock E-Force roots S/C. See mods below in signature. 546/rwhp and 522/rwtq. 642 HP at the crank. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS Victory Red, MN6, 1-7/8 Kooks LT Headers, SLP Axle Back, Edelbrock E-Force S/C, ZL1 Fuel Pump, 72# Injectors, JRE fuel rail upgrade, Roto-Fab CAI, Elite Catch Can, Billet Hurst Shifter, DSS 1000HP axles, Spohn Trailing Arms, Toe Links, Lower Control Arms. Chrome Torq-Thrust wheels. 546/rwhp & 522/rwtq Tune by Jeremy Formato.

08-23-2020, 06:16 PM	#19
Js2fst 2010 transformer Drives: 2010 ss camaro Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Lee's summit mo Posts: 582	What the heat and failures? And heat soak, 13 psi with 806 conservative horsepower __________________ 2010 transformer, vertical doors, 315nt05 rears, pedders supercar coilovers, hotchkis sway bars, links, adjustable, toe bars, bmr poly cradle bushings, 1le control arms, bmr tunnel brace, bmr subframe connectors. Cam 227/239-623-620@114 Mast medium bore heads, sw 1 7/8 headers, cat delete, x pipe, 3" dynomax true duals, fuel rails, fast 102 intake and NW 102 throttle body, catch can, rotofab cai, shifter, raptor custom shift light. Dss drive shaft, 3.91 gears. 492 rwhp

08-23-2020, 06:50 PM	#20
RupertPupkin Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1Le Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: IL Posts: 896	I like my ECS... __________________ 14SS 1LE 2SS/RS/Recaros\|Tick Polluter Stg-3\|E85 LS7 Lifters\|BTR Springs\|Speed Engineering LTs\|Muffler Mod\|ECS 1500\|DSX Aux Pump\|DSX Flex Fuel Sensor\|FIC 127#\|ATI Balancer\|DashLogic\| McLeod RXT\|BMR 1.4 Springs\|MightyMouse Wild\|AEM WideBand\|AEM BoostGauge\|ZL1Addons Splitter\|VA Sideskirts\|POWER : 737whp/635trq

08-26-2020, 08:57 AM	#22
Axe55 Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Toronto Posts: 113	I've had a good experience with my Whipple, been in the car for 3 years, no issues so far and definitely puts a grin on my face when I put my foot into it. I daily drive my car too, and it's not unreasonable on the street. With the mods you've already got, I'd start at the 3.875" pulley at the biggest. __________________ 2012 Camaro SS LS3, JRE Scoop, CAI intake, Whipple Supercharger, Fast 85lb injectors, ZL1 pump, McLeod RXT clutch, MGW shifter, Stainless Power 1 7/8 headers w/HFC, Ridetech coilovers, BMR sway bars, trailing arms, toe rods, cradle bushing inserts, 2020 Speed Tuned.

08-23-2020, 10:44 AM	#16
fz4k98 Drives: 2013 1ss Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: WI. Posts: 314	I'm real happy with whipple. Don't even know it's there until I get on it. Other than changing plugs every 20k it has been maintenance free for 27k +miles. Now, all the other drivetrain parts it's broken due to power is a different story but was expected.

08-26-2020, 11:07 PM	#23
Big Biscuits Drives: 2010 1SS LS3 Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Waxahachie, TX Posts: 237	I like my ESS blower. Belt wrap is great, machine work and layout is top shelf. G3x is a beast on an ls3. BUT...agp would also be a great choice. What’s your power goals? It changes quickly. 1000 is the new 400. __________________ 2010 CGM 1SS M6 LS3 ESS G3X 15 psi 95/200mm Fore Twins/ID1300x E85 BTR LS3 N/A Cam Monster LT1-S Kooks 2" DSS/ZL1 3.73

08-27-2020, 03:45 PM	#24
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,770	As far as PD SC's go a smaller blower spinning faster = more torque less peak HP and less overall HP capability. Bigger SC less torque more HP and more overall capability as you can see by my numbers. Torque is what breaks things. Centrifugal are easier on parts as they don't get the low RPM torque punch like the PD does and the power is more of a gradual climb. Same goes for Turbo's with Turbo's being capable of the most HP the easiest. If you are looking to stay stock bottom end any will work as they can all break things if you turn them up enough on the stock bottom end. I like my Whipple and where I am at torque and power wise, more lower end torque and it would be even harder to hook (which I have enough problems with) more HP and I really have to be ready to rebuild the engine but I can get over 900WHP on this whipple. With an lsa/kong or 2650 SC you can get to the 1000WHP mark I think. Personnaly Whipple > Maggie > Centri (they are also really noisey) If I were going for over 1K WHP I would be talking to AGP and going twin turbo but I wouldn't be doing it on a stock bottom end. __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

08-28-2020, 08:09 AM	#26
Yellow 1 Grumpy Grey-haired Guy Drives: 2013 CamaroSS/2021Merc 300De Sport Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: South Warwickshire, UK. Posts: 780 View My Garage	I actually wish my Maggi WAS louder! The whine is far too subtle... __________________ --------------------------------------------------------- 2SS/RS/LS3; ROTO-FAB INTAKE. MAGNUSON HEARTBEAT SUPERCHARGER. GMPP-CNC HEADS. COMP CAMS PUSHRODS. SMITH BROS TRUNNION KIT. DYNATECH L/T's. NOWEEDS EXHAUST DIVERTERS. HI-FLOW CATS. MANZO CAT-BACK SYSTEM + JANETTY TUNE. BMR TRAILING ARMS, TOE RODS AND CRADLE BUSHINGS.

08-28-2020, 10:26 AM	#28
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,770	My comment about being loud was the centrifugal superchargers. Some sound like damn jet engines, I don't like that. My Whipple is so quiet you would never know it had one no whine, no whistle. The only noise it makes is some air noise as the bypass valve is closing. Though I have seen others make more noise than mine, I think I just have an anomaly. Plus my exhaust is loud. __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane