No Lift Shifting...you doing it?

[Legend]

Heck...years ago man, years ago! Never had a car that was worth trying it on so I've never done it...but power shifting to me was busting throught the gears without lifting and/or use of the clutch.

No lift shifting was leaving the gas down but punching the clutch as you shift.

Learn more each day...that's good!

[Unfair]

try it now without a clutch then, good luck getting into the next gear.

[Legend]

Originally Posted by Unfair

try it now without a clutch then, good luck getting into the next gear.

Yeah...certainly can see the difficulty but was told years ago like I said.

I'm here asking to learn...if I break it I'll replace it!

[Unfair]

Well I'm here maybe helping you not break it in the first place!? lol

[GTAHVIT]

I could be wrong but true power shifting doesn't work on a syncro'd tranny????

I think? or is it the other way around. Speed shifting or no lift shiting is what you are talking about legend...

I always thought power shifting was different as well. Maybe I'm confused.

I thought you had to have a tranny setup up so that the gears were mechanically synchronized to shift at the right time with out a clutch... So you just pulled on the shift lever at the right RPMS and it went into gear. I don't think that works on a syncro tranny like we have. What I'm thinking is Speed or no lift shifting is different than Power shifting.

[GTAHVIT]

Anyway,

Yes I No lift shift all the time but with the supercharger I'm a little scurred on the 1-2 shift. so I get out of it just a bit. It gets to 2nd so quicly that I'm still bouncing off the rev limiter... So until I get better and hitting my shift RPM I back out of the gas into second. Which helps a bit cus I can still roast em in 2nd. After second it's no lift all the way. I've done it is all TC modes the only time the computer doesn like it is if I'm loosing traction then it falls on its face until the tires hook back up.

[Legend]

GTAHVIT...that may be what I was told...I'm no spring chicken here so may very well be right!

The 1 - 2 shift would be pretty hairy as traction is a problem!

Anyone launch in second?

[DarricSS]

Power shifting is more of a term for Motorcycles. You don't use the clutch at all; just press your left foot up on the shifter as you blip the throttle off for a split second. A motorcycle can do that easy with no damage.

I have no-lift (gas peddle) shifted the Camaro a few times, only at the drag strip though. Get good at shifting really fast at high RPM, when you feel confident in doing so then you can try the no-lift on the gas peddle. It does save some time because you don't have as much a drop outside your torque curve. But allot can go wrong really quickly.

[avro206]

I have shifted a little without the clutch--both up and down but not when racing.

I don't even think it would get good times--the rpms have to fall to a certain range where you can then shift it. If you were racing you want to bang the shift off as fast as you can--use the clutch

Speed shifting and power shifting means leaving the gas pedal floored when you engage the clutch to upshift. Grown up all my life around cars and never heard these terms to mean anything else.

Only done that a few times--way to hard on the car IMO.

The title of this thread is unknowingly misleading I think. No lift shit is feature in the Turbocharged Cobalts. It's an electronic feature where you don't have to lift. (not the best explanation I know)

[jnm2003]

I ran a 12.82 this night ALMOST bone stock with borla mufflers only!! I ran with TC and ST off. Yes hold down the button until you see both ligths light up. Here is one vid from that night of me catching second and third with my stock garbage shifter.

[FastOil]

is there any tunner gurus that has a reflash for this to mod the ECU ?

this would be great added benefit !

[Brokenlizrd]

I do it but you must shift very fast and accurate to avoid redline

[nuptualnemesis]

I have a Lingerfelter 2 step rev limiter. Hooked the primary limiter to a reverse pressure switch at the top of the clutch arm. Set primary for 5,200 rpm and as soon as the clutch moves first quarter of an inch rpms drop. Reverts back to secondary limiter set for 7,000 rpm when clutch all the way back out. (both are adjustable) I also have a rip shifter. No lift shift all gears. Prevents over spinning when hitting second. Can raise or lower primary rpm limiter for less spin in second or to hit second harder. Much better for motor and transmission than full rpm no lift shift.

Don't cut any wires to install like the vette instructions. It won't work for Camaro.
Caution don't use for launch or burn outs. I melted my cats trying to use it with a momentary switch to limit rpms during burnouts. Dumped raw fuel when it pulled spark to alternating cylinders and when it hit the cats they melted and stopped them up (no power with more than a 1/4 throttle) This is not a problem for no lift shift because it is so quick.

[RedJewelSS]

Originally Posted by Unfair

The time you will gain is not worth the damage to the tranny you are doing.