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Steve · 02-14-2011, 09:37 PM

My VIN is 13279. Snapped the ouput shaft last July during a launch. I thought a 12 gage shotgun went off in the cabin! No modifications outside of a CAI. GM picked it up and had it back with a new tranny in 36 hours, all under warranty.

stikSS · 02-14-2011, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mercuryman96

So you flashed it back. Did GM require a ECM snapshot?

I didn't... mine has a dyno tune. They told me that they are required to reset it to factory and asked if I approved for them to do that so they could warranty the work.

I take it as.... without changing the ECM tune... no warranty... if I change it, GM will approve it.

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stikSS · 02-14-2011, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve

My VIN is 13279. Snapped the ouput shaft last July during a launch. I thought a 12 gage shotgun went off in the cabin! No modifications outside of a CAI. GM picked it up and had it back with a new tranny in 36 hours, all under warranty.

That sounds so familiar.... its loud for sure!

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Merc · 02-14-2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stikSS

I didn't... mine has a dyno tune. They told me that they are required to reset it to factory and asked if I approved for them to do that so they could warranty the work.

I take it as.... without changing the ECM tune... no warranty... if I change it, GM will approve it.

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Cool if that is the case then they can't see the the tune had been there.

stikSS · 02-14-2011, 09:56 PM

I'm gonna get the down and dirty when I pick it up... so I will pass along the details of what they have to do. I'm game for whatever it takes to fix it! I can deal with the tune later!

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Merc · 02-14-2011, 10:05 PM

The Dealer must be lying to me.

They said GM wanted a snapshot of ECM, apparently the norm on a major drivetrain failure. That took a week to get that done.

The word on this site is the ECM has a counter so to speak. So if it a tune they can tell.

Did you bust the case on your tranny?

AlSuwaidi · 02-14-2011, 10:19 PM

17xxx broke mine twice... once completely when it was fairly new (within 3 weeks) and then again at 20,000 kms .. 2nd time wasnt a complete break.. car was still moving but would vibrate severly over 60-70kmh

both timeses dealer fixed it... car is completely stock btw

stikSS · 02-14-2011, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mercuryman96

The Dealer must be lying to me.

They said GM wanted a snapshot of ECM, apparently the norm on a major drivetrain failure. That took a week to get that done.

The word on this site is the ECM has a counter so to speak. So if it a tune they can tell.

Did you bust the case on your tranny?

That sounds kinda weird imo.... I haven't heard of anything like that. They told me they do have to call GM on something like that because sometimes they are required to tear the trans down or just swap it so they're could be different responses for different situations.

I'm not sure about the case... I wasn't able to get under the car Saturday other than seeing fluid running out. All I was told today was the shaft was broke.... and I haven't paid enough attention to the trans to even know where the breaks are occurring.

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Heliwrench · 02-14-2011, 11:18 PM

I've heard a lot of rumors about them being able to see how many times it's been flashed but I've never seen proof.

Merc · 02-14-2011, 11:44 PM

I agree. But people swear up and down they can tell.

stikSS · 02-15-2011, 06:24 AM

I just wondering if there are certain parameters within the ECM that GM or the dealer can tell it has been tuned. I mean... think about it like this... say if you bought a used SS that had a tune in it or still does... and then you have a problem... how would GM or the Dealer handle that due to the new owner not having any knowledge of a tune?... so I a say it can be reflashed back to stock and it would be very difficult for the dealer to find.

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Amwellls1 · 02-20-2011, 10:49 PM

My vin is 17750

ssmike · 02-21-2011, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Amwellls1

My vin is 17750

Thanks! List updated!

ssmike · 02-21-2011, 03:40 PM

I forgot to mention, my car is going in tomorrow for a trans swap out because of 2nd & 3rd gear issues so that will take care of having to worry about the output shaft anymore!

GM is installing a brand new trans with the good output shaft! I'm really happy about this! I'll still continue with this tally as more report in!

02-14-2011, 09:37 PM	#43
Steve Ancalagon The Black Drives: 2013 Silverado 4X4, 2010 RJT 1SS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Upstate - NY Posts: 901	My VIN is 13279. Snapped the ouput shaft last July during a launch. I thought a 12 gage shotgun went off in the cabin! No modifications outside of a CAI. GM picked it up and had it back with a new tranny in 36 hours, all under warranty. __________________

02-14-2011, 09:56 PM	#47
stikSS 9691 & 97586 Drives: 2010 SS, 1999 SS, 1993 Z28 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sanford, NC Posts: 2,814 View My Garage	I'm gonna get the down and dirty when I pick it up... so I will pass along the details of what they have to do. I'm game for whatever it takes to fix it! I can deal with the tune later! Sent from my EVO 4G __________________ http://www.camarosouth.com camarosouth@hotmail.com

02-14-2011, 10:05 PM	#48
Merc In The Circle Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SSRS IOM M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Abbotsford BC Canada Posts: 11,292	The Dealer must be lying to me. They said GM wanted a snapshot of ECM, apparently the norm on a major drivetrain failure. That took a week to get that done.The word on this site is the ECM has a counter so to speak. So if it a tune they can tell. Did you bust the case on your tranny? __________________ My Build Thread

02-14-2011, 11:18 PM	#51
Heliwrench Drives: 2010 Black 1SS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Langley BC Posts: 666	I've heard a lot of rumors about them being able to see how many times it's been flashed but I've never seen proof. __________________ 2010 Black 1SS LS3 M6 Power: Kook's 1 7/8" Long Tubes and 3" Exhaust, Injen Full Length CAI, Jannetty Tune Drivetrain: MGW Short Shifter, Street Slayer Twin Clutch, DSS 1 Piece Aluminum Driveshaft, DSS 1000HP Axles, BMR Pro and Delrin Diff Bushings Suspension: BMR Trailing Arms and Bushings, FE6 Swaybar Conversion With Pedders 27mm Front and 32mm Rear ZL1 Swaybars and Links Chassis: Hotchkis Chassis Max Brace, BMR Pro Cradle Bushings Exterior:: Shine by Adam's. ...and plenty more

02-14-2011, 11:44 PM	#52
Merc In The Circle Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SSRS IOM M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Abbotsford BC Canada Posts: 11,292	I agree. But people swear up and down they can tell. __________________ My Build Thread

02-14-2011, 10:19 PM	#49
AlSuwaidi Drives: BLACK LS3 GCC-Spec Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UAE - SHARJAH Posts: 2,824 View My Garage	17xxx broke mine twice... once completely when it was fairly new (within 3 weeks) and then again at 20,000 kms .. 2nd time wasnt a complete break.. car was still moving but would vibrate severly over 60-70kmh both timeses dealer fixed it... car is completely stock btw

02-15-2011, 06:24 AM	#53
stikSS 9691 & 97586 Drives: 2010 SS, 1999 SS, 1993 Z28 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sanford, NC Posts: 2,814 View My Garage	I just wondering if there are certain parameters within the ECM that GM or the dealer can tell it has been tuned. I mean... think about it like this... say if you bought a used SS that had a tune in it or still does... and then you have a problem... how would GM or the Dealer handle that due to the new owner not having any knowledge of a tune?... so I a say it can be reflashed back to stock and it would be very difficult for the dealer to find. Sent from my EVO 4G __________________ http://www.camarosouth.com camarosouth@hotmail.com

02-20-2011, 10:49 PM	#54
Amwellls1 Old School Drives: 2002 WS6 440 m6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Washington Pa Posts: 180	My vin is 17750 __________________ 2002 White WS6 440LSX M6 2010 GMC Sierra All terrain 6.2 2012 Corvette GS M6

02-21-2011, 03:40 PM	#56
ssmike BL1ZZRD Drives: '16 Camaro 2SS, '20 Equinox Redline Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 7,840	I forgot to mention, my car is going in tomorrow for a trans swap out because of 2nd & 3rd gear issues so that will take care of having to worry about the output shaft anymore! GM is installing a brand new trans with the good output shaft! I'm really happy about this! I'll still continue with this tally as more report in!

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