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racesloth · 05-27-2020, 04:29 PM

eLeSthree,

That combo is looking great. It will make some power no doubt.

Vortech did develop the V-15 and the V17 but I don't know if came to fruition. Both fit in the YSI bracketry.

https://www.racepagesdigital.com/tec...superchargers/

stevieturbo · 05-27-2020, 04:57 PM

There have been a couple of posts about the V15....but that was a long time ago, and they still don't seem to be out there. Vortech really are lagging behind, although even the old YSi is still a fantastic unit.

The did do the XB110 some years ago too, but it disappeared very fast. No idea why they seem to struggle when Procharger has so many good units out there.

I asked for years for an upgrade for the YSi, even just an impeller to no avail, got fed up in the end and switched to turbos. About 2 years later then came up with the YSi-B, but even that hasnt really shone much over the regular YSi

ESS for a much smaller company seem to be stepping up though and making good stuff.

racesloth · 05-28-2020, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieturbo

There have been a couple of posts about the V15....but that was a long time ago, and they still don't seem to be out there. Vortech really are lagging behind, although even the old YSi is still a fantastic unit.

I asked for years for an upgrade for the YSi, even just an impeller to no avail, got fed up in the end and switched to turbos. About 2 years later then came up with the YSi-B, but even that hasnt really shone much over the regular YSi

ESS for a much smaller company seem to be stepping up though and making good stuff.

ESS doe have some nice engineering - they orig came from high end euro car kits. I am surprised that Vortech, or even Procharger, is not using the 11-blade tech from the turbo world. I am sure that would breath some new life into their units.

stevieturbo · 05-28-2020, 08:46 AM

I doubt 11 blades would be of any advantage. The higher blade counts seem to be more for higher rpm impellers and due to physical limitations, blowers just do not operate at the same rpms turbos will see.
Over 100k would be common for turbos even 70k is very high for a blower.

Maybe it's still why the ysi performs so well despit an old cast unit.

I had even considered the V4XX, but it's massive.

eLeSthree · 05-29-2020, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racesloth

eLeSthree,

That combo is looking great. It will make some power no doubt.

Vortech did develop the V-15 and the V17 but I don't know if came to fruition. Both fit in the YSI bracketry.

https://www.racepagesdigital.com/tec...superchargers/

Those things are rediculous. 2500hp? i see no reason why the 1400hp from a ysib wouldnt be enough for a street/strip car. Its a very capable blower.

USPS is delivering my ptfe hose tomorrow. Hope to have it running sunday.

Got the G3X on currently with the big 110mm pulley for break in. Dont expect numbers for at least 500 miles

stevieturbo · 05-30-2020, 04:42 AM

Getting 1400 from a YSi anything is a little hopeful.

Generally it seems 11-1200 is the absolute max they do in an all out engine..

Making that same power with a milder build is easier with a bigger blower. Same way if you want to make big power at lower boost with turbos...you just pick bigger turbos, although there are downsides to doing so.
With a blower, even a big blower will still make boost at lower rpm's, although physically it will be harder to fit, and it will place more loads on the blower drive system

I think it was over a year ago ECS and A&A were posting about the V15....and still it's a bit of a unicorn

bct10985 · 05-30-2020, 06:05 AM

Guy with the name rgehring_yrntrdy on Instagram has a V15 on his vette. I think ecs is also testing a vette with one.

eLeSthree · 06-02-2020, 10:32 AM

Changed the tune file to reflect the new displacement, and the new TB scalar. It fired right up. Bumped fuel pressure to 60psi just to make sure it wasnt lean for first test drive. No leaks, no problems. 60psi of oil pressure as well. About 45 warmed up. Now for 500 break in miles

https://youtu.be/wiqgBPoXcRk

Scotty D · 06-02-2020, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eLeSthree

Changed the tune file to reflect the new displacement, and the new TB scalar. It fired right up. Bumped fuel pressure to 60psi just to make sure it wasnt lean for first test drive. No leaks, no problems. 60psi of oil pressure as well. About 45 warmed up. Now for 500 break in miles

https://youtu.be/wiqgBPoXcRk

Sick !!!

eLeSthree · 06-03-2020, 05:42 AM

Im done with my build, queue the 10 day rain squall!!!

Js2fst · 06-03-2020, 11:33 PM

I have ran all kinds of super chargers and procharger is the way to go 140000 thousand hard miles and didn’t need rebuilt the guy who bought it had another 90 k on it I lost contact with it after the car sold

rgrmoreira13 · 06-04-2020, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eLeSthree

Im done with my build, queue the 10 day rain squall!!!

Same reason that I can't get my car retuned again. It rains almost everyday and hard

hunter1660 · 06-06-2020, 03:32 PM

Tis the season

eLeSthree · 06-09-2020, 05:25 AM

Roads dried up some. Been putting some break in miles on the new motor. Can't go beyond 5500 right now, but damn this thing is efficient. I'm seeing 3psi less boost at the same RPM than the last setup.

Between work, buying a second house, burying my dog, and my lack of patience/confidence with tuning, I decided to hire Ted to tune it. I was very pleased with his last remote tune.

I'm running the same 95mm pulley on the G3X, but I dont think it will make 20psi on this motor. I'm pretty confident that this thing will make 1000+ on this pulley though, probably around 17psi. Hell it made 950 on the stock ls3. Also have the 90mm pulley.

The G4 is still 60 days out.

I took the Snakeater TB off. It threw back to back p1516 codes and tripped REP mode at only 3 psi of boost. Dont have time to mess with it during break in.

Butt dyno and my ears are very happy. This thing sounds glorious at WOT.

05-27-2020, 04:29 PM	#57
racesloth Dan Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS IOM Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Georgia, USA not the other one Posts: 1,041	eLeSthree, That combo is looking great. It will make some power no doubt. Vortech did develop the V-15 and the V17 but I don't know if came to fruition. Both fit in the YSI bracketry. https://www.racepagesdigital.com/tec...superchargers/ __________________ Dan 2010 IOM SS YSI-B, Pat G Cam, Ported CTS-V Heads, ARH LTs MBRP 3" exhaust http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...&highlight=ysi

05-30-2020, 06:05 AM	#63
bct10985 Drives: 2010 2SS LS3, 2013 duramax Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Dover, De Posts: 1,451	Guy with the name rgehring_yrntrdy on Instagram has a V15 on his vette. I think ecs is also testing a vette with one. __________________ ECS Ysi-B, cam, Tsp 2" longtubes, Squash dual pumps, Id1300s, meth, 4L80e, FTI 3600, ZL1 3.73 diff, BMR suspension, 15" conversion, weld rts mt 275 et street R. 9.6@147mph

06-02-2020, 10:32 AM	#64
eLeSthree Drives: 2011 Camaro SS 6sp Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Drivers Seat Posts: 1,904	Changed the tune file to reflect the new displacement, and the new TB scalar. It fired right up. Bumped fuel pressure to 60psi just to make sure it wasnt lean for first test drive. No leaks, no problems. 60psi of oil pressure as well. About 45 warmed up. Now for 500 break in miles https://youtu.be/wiqgBPoXcRk __________________ 2011 Camaro SS---SOLD TMS Dart 427 FED M311s, ESS Tuning G4 Blower, DSX Triple FP Assembly, DSX FF, FIC1300, Mcleod RXT 1200HD, Edlebrock Pro Flo XT 1158whp 1017wtq. 2010 CTS-V A6 - "Stock" SOLD 630whp 658wtq 2024 F-150 RCSB 5.0 4x4 waiting for tunes...

06-03-2020, 05:42 AM	#66
eLeSthree Drives: 2011 Camaro SS 6sp Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Drivers Seat Posts: 1,904	Im done with my build, queue the 10 day rain squall!!! Attached Images __________________ 2011 Camaro SS---SOLD TMS Dart 427 FED M311s, ESS Tuning G4 Blower, DSX Triple FP Assembly, DSX FF, FIC1300, Mcleod RXT 1200HD, Edlebrock Pro Flo XT 1158whp 1017wtq. 2010 CTS-V A6 - "Stock" SOLD 630whp 658wtq 2024 F-150 RCSB 5.0 4x4 waiting for tunes...

06-03-2020, 11:33 PM	#67
Js2fst 2010 transformer Drives: 2010 ss camaro Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Lee's summit mo Posts: 591	I have ran all kinds of super chargers and procharger is the way to go 140000 thousand hard miles and didn’t need rebuilt the guy who bought it had another 90 k on it I lost contact with it after the car sold __________________ 2010 transformer, vertical doors, 315nt05 rears, pedders supercar coilovers, hotchkis sway bars, links, adjustable, toe bars, bmr poly cradle bushings, 1le control arms, bmr tunnel brace, bmr subframe connectors. Cam 227/239-623-620@114 Mast medium bore heads, sw 1 7/8 headers, cat delete, x pipe, 3" dynomax true duals, fuel rails, fast 102 intake and NW 102 throttle body, catch can, rotofab cai, shifter, raptor custom shift light. Dss drive shaft, 3.91 gears. 492 rwhp

05-27-2020, 04:57 PM	#58
stevieturbo Drives: it changes Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 1,126	There have been a couple of posts about the V15....but that was a long time ago, and they still don't seem to be out there. Vortech really are lagging behind, although even the old YSi is still a fantastic unit. The did do the XB110 some years ago too, but it disappeared very fast. No idea why they seem to struggle when Procharger has so many good units out there. I asked for years for an upgrade for the YSi, even just an impeller to no avail, got fed up in the end and switched to turbos. About 2 years later then came up with the YSi-B, but even that hasnt really shone much over the regular YSi ESS for a much smaller company seem to be stepping up though and making good stuff.

05-28-2020, 08:46 AM	#60
stevieturbo Drives: it changes Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 1,126	I doubt 11 blades would be of any advantage. The higher blade counts seem to be more for higher rpm impellers and due to physical limitations, blowers just do not operate at the same rpms turbos will see. Over 100k would be common for turbos even 70k is very high for a blower. Maybe it's still why the ysi performs so well despit an old cast unit. I had even considered the V4XX, but it's massive.

05-30-2020, 04:42 AM	#62
stevieturbo Drives: it changes Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 1,126	Getting 1400 from a YSi anything is a little hopeful. Generally it seems 11-1200 is the absolute max they do in an all out engine.. Making that same power with a milder build is easier with a bigger blower. Same way if you want to make big power at lower boost with turbos...you just pick bigger turbos, although there are downsides to doing so. With a blower, even a big blower will still make boost at lower rpm's, although physically it will be harder to fit, and it will place more loads on the blower drive system I think it was over a year ago ECS and A&A were posting about the V15....and still it's a bit of a unicorn

06-06-2020, 03:32 PM	#69
hunter1660 Drives: 2011ss/rs camaro Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: florida Posts: 1,261	Tis the season __________________ . OBX LTH,Rotofab,Magnuson Heartbeat.AEM wideband, HP Tuners

06-09-2020, 05:25 AM	#70
eLeSthree Drives: 2011 Camaro SS 6sp Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Drivers Seat Posts: 1,904	Roads dried up some. Been putting some break in miles on the new motor. Can't go beyond 5500 right now, but damn this thing is efficient. I'm seeing 3psi less boost at the same RPM than the last setup. Between work, buying a second house, burying my dog, and my lack of patience/confidence with tuning, I decided to hire Ted to tune it. I was very pleased with his last remote tune. I'm running the same 95mm pulley on the G3X, but I dont think it will make 20psi on this motor. I'm pretty confident that this thing will make 1000+ on this pulley though, probably around 17psi. Hell it made 950 on the stock ls3. Also have the 90mm pulley. The G4 is still 60 days out. I took the Snakeater TB off. It threw back to back p1516 codes and tripped REP mode at only 3 psi of boost. Dont have time to mess with it during break in. Butt dyno and my ears are very happy. This thing sounds glorious at WOT. __________________ 2011 Camaro SS---SOLD TMS Dart 427 FED M311s, ESS Tuning G4 Blower, DSX Triple FP Assembly, DSX FF, FIC1300, Mcleod RXT 1200HD, Edlebrock Pro Flo XT 1158whp 1017wtq. 2010 CTS-V A6 - "Stock" SOLD 630whp 658wtq 2024 F-150 RCSB 5.0 4x4 waiting for tunes...