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ls7camaro · 01-24-2013, 01:12 PM

Why didnt you just text me for my return address, also why did you have to refurbish it? I tried to take it offline, and I called him today, but he hung up on me

GunnyG · 01-24-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Aecannon1

Because of everything i stated. Inluding the labor, parts, install and tuning costs. It's way over the $4k i spent on it. I tried to return it... no address to return to. It was shipped directly from Livernoise, NOT the seller. Paypal protection requires you send the item back to a confirmed address by the buyer, which was NEVER provided.

As for the injectors dumping tons of fuel, obviously you know jack about MAF pressure delta's and injector pulse width timing. If the injector data is wrong, it will nevvver in a million years tune correctly. That diagnostic alone cost me more money than I want to headache about.

The blower runs perfectly well now no thanks to this mess. Now, I'm going to sell it, do a new build because that's what snow on the ground is for and keep on keeping on.

So what if whoever you sell it to says it need $5000 more work done on it, and swindles you? Would that be "fair"?

GunnyG · 01-24-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Moriartii

Seems to me you guys may want to take this offline for a resolution. I think the statement of "getting a refund and keeping the item" may have some legal ramifications.

Just sayin.
Cheers
K

Hells NO this is getting good!

tramtwo · 01-24-2013, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GunnyG

That's what I've been saying from the beginning. WTF are you talking about?

I know... and I agreed with you just used different words... must be a nawlinz thang.

I said Tracy nailed it cause I think that is the main point... refund and return.

I for one would hate to have 4k in play for months tho...

EliteCZM523 · 01-24-2013, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Aecannon1

Because of everything i stated. Inluding the labor, parts, install and tuning costs. It's way over the $4k i spent on it. I tried to return it... no address to return to. It was shipped directly from Livernoise, NOT the seller. Paypal protection requires you send the item back to a confirmed address by the buyer, which was NEVER provided.

As for the injectors dumping tons of fuel, obviously you know jack about MAF pressure delta's and injector pulse width timing. If the injector data is wrong, it will nevvver in a million years tune correctly. That diagnostic alone cost me more money than I want to headache about.

The blower runs perfectly well now no thanks to this mess. Now, I'm going to sell it, do a new build because that's what snow on the ground is for and keep on keeping on.

It wasn't your item to spend money on. If you planned on keeping it, the money you invested was just that - your own investment. However it seems as if this is what you where going to do from the get-go.

As for Paypal terms, this is irrelevant. You should have returned it to the place it shipped from, that is where your responsibility ends. Its like doing 150 mph in a 55 mph zone, because you didnt "See" the speed limit sign. Ignorance is no excuse.

EliteCZM523 · 01-24-2013, 01:16 PM

Before i forget -

Aecannon1 · 01-24-2013, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GunnyG

So what if whoever you sell it to says it need $5000 more work done on it, and swindles you? Would that be "fair"?

Honestly, yes. I'd make it right. Because i don't screw people unless they truly try and screw me. I know it's looks ass headish but considering the money I spent AFTER giving a chance to make it right, after the refund and after trying to return it. I'll live with my decision because I tried in every which way to make it right on my end. Now it's a question of returning something I fixed/completed and paid the labor to install/tune and diagnose... hell no. I'll live with my decision before letting that happen. Ignoring the entire case until way after the fact did that to himself.

ls7camaro · 01-24-2013, 01:16 PM

I see you said paypal requires you to ship it to the seller. And if you shipped it back to Livernois, paypal's not going to fine you.

GunnyG · 01-24-2013, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tramtwo

I know... and I agreed with you just used different words... must be a nawlinz thang.

I said Tracy nailed it cause I think that is the main point... refund and return.

I for one would hate to have 4k in play for months tho...

My bad bro. I should be ok picking up Nawlin slang. My grandfather was from Houma. LoL

2012REDSS · 01-24-2013, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GunnyG

Hells NO this is getting good!

GunnyG · 01-24-2013, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Aecannon1

Honestly, yes. I'd make it right. Because i don't screw people unless they truly try and screw me. I know it's looks ass headish but considering the money I spent AFTER giving a chance to make it right, after the refund and after trying to return it. I'll live with my decision because I tried in every which way to make it right on my end. Now it's a question of returning something I fixed/completed and paid the labor to install/tune and diagnose... hell no. I'll live with my decision before letting that happen. Ignoring the entire case until way after the fact did that to himself.

Are you going to give ls7camaro any of the $5000 you sell his original component for? That's where I'm lost at. He loses his blower and gets nothing? You gained his blower for nothing, and possible get an extra $1000?

tramtwo · 01-24-2013, 01:22 PM

This thread gives me an idea for a charity fund raiser event we could have at Camaro5 fest....

We need some of those fat sumo suits..

Aecannon1 · 01-24-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by EliteCZM523

It wasn't your item to spend money on. If you planned on keeping it, the money you invested was just that - your own investment. However it seems as if this is what you where going to do from the get-go.

As for Paypal terms, this is irrelevant. You should have returned it to the place it shipped from, that is where your responsibility ends. Its like doing 150 mph in a 55 mph zone, because you didnt "See" the speed limit sign. Ignorance is no excuse.

Not a chance, I paid through paypal, he sold through paypal. I'm following the legal standard they set forth for every buyer and seller to make a transaction safely. They handle all the legal stuff and write the rules of transacting through their channels specifically for these kinds of cases.

As for digging myself a hole by telling the truth, not a chance. He ignored my texts, emails, voicemails and paypal's emails.

digs holes and truth fills em up. Not mine to repair? Again, forfeiture.

As for the repairs being an "investment". No. I don't think so. The kit wasn't advertised as damaged, missing parts and such. I spoke verbally and via text about the condition of the kit and what it included. If my expenditure to fix/replace what was damaged, that's just not right because as aforementioned, the kit was described as complete and not damaged.

EliteCZM523 · 01-24-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tramtwo

This thread gives me an idea for a charity fund raiser event we could have at Camaro5 fest....

We need some of those fat sumo suits..

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