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R8cerX · 07-13-2010, 09:41 AM

Hey guys/girls,

Just purchased my wife a 2010 Camaro 2LT/RS Automatic this weekend. As I am co-owner of Dyno Tuned Performance in Va. Beach I decided I would post all the dyno information that I can as the car gets modified.

We are not a sponsoring vendor yet, but do plan to become one within the month. I do not sell parts over the internet, so don't feel there is any alterior motive here. I have been reading a lot of the V6 threads and most are going by how the car feels after a mod. Since I have a dyno at my disposal, I just figured I'd post what we get out of the mods that we do to this car.

We baselined the car this morning. The mileage is 1250, 87 Octane in the tank and completely stock front to rear. One thing I can tell you for sure is that these cars are super sensitive to heat.

The first pull was done as soon as I got to work, so the car was hot. The RWHP was 230.2 and the RWTQ was 218. We allowed the car to cool for 30 minutes and the RWHP jumped to 257.1 and the RWTQ to 234.

I am filling the car up today with Shell 93 and will drive on that for a few days, then will re-dyno the car on Friday to see if there are any quantifiable advantages to using 93 over 87.

The first mod will be an Airaid V2 as we have always seen great performance from the Airaid line. Once custom tuning software is available from either HP Tuners or Diablosport CMR, we will install some ARH LT's with HF cats and custom tune. I will post graphs and info as these mods happen.

2010SLVRBULIT · 07-13-2010, 09:48 AM

cool...

sailfan26 · 07-13-2010, 09:59 AM

Good Morning Dtpracing!
This is awesome. This is the kind of info I really want to see. I look forward to your posts!

formare · 07-13-2010, 10:02 AM

very good information - i look forward to more :-)

jth6373 · 07-13-2010, 10:04 AM

I am suprised to see that running 87 octane it did not pull any timing in the higher rpms...257 though is a good number for an auto.

Moody'sSS · 07-13-2010, 10:12 AM

R8cerX · 07-13-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jth6373

I am suprised to see that running 87 octane it did not pull any timing in the higher rpms...257 though is a good number for an auto.

One thing we saw on the dyno was that load made a big difference in the timing. The first pull we did (not shown), the load on our Dyno Dynamics Eddy Current was set to 130 and the graph was up and down almost the entire pull. We datalogged with HP Tuner software and the timing was as low as 6* and up to 22*...but up and down the whole way. We changed the load on the dyno to 100 and the timing stayed steady at 21/22* and the graph was fairly smooth.

speedy_g · 07-13-2010, 10:54 AM

Vary cool ill be watching ...so u holding out for a tuner?
Trifecta not up your alley ..

spyderbuddy · 07-13-2010, 11:16 AM

Really waiting on that 93 octane run.

KMPrenger · 07-13-2010, 11:27 AM

Awsome!

You can bet lots of us will be anxiously awaiting your updated posts on this thread as you add more mods over time. Glad that you seem to be mostly up to date on what affects the V6 as you have already mentioned heat and 93 octane (can't wait to see what happens on that one!).

As far as tuning goes, I think your only bet is going through Trifecta. From what I understand, we may never see an option from HP Tuners or DiabloSport for the simple fact that a tune alone really has shown to do little to nothing for this car. It is basically to just optimize your Air/Fuel after doing mods, and even then a tune hasn't shown to provide big gains. Most bang for the buck tunewise seems to be from moding the auto tranny shifting and fighting of CELs when Long tube headers are added.

Anyways...applaud you for your contribution!

EDIT: Oh, and sweet color!!! lol

scrming · 07-13-2010, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dtpracing

One thing we saw on the dyno was that load made a big difference in the timing. The first pull we did (not shown), the load on our Dyno Dynamics Eddy Current was set to 130 and the graph was up and down almost the entire pull. We datalogged with HP Tuner software and the timing was as low as 6* and up to 22*...but up and down the whole way. We changed the load on the dyno to 100 and the timing stayed steady at 21/22* and the graph was fairly smooth.

Interesting...

Looking forward to more of your testing!

2010 SSRS · 07-13-2010, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spyderbuddy

Really waiting on that 93 octane run.

+1

ROD1 · 07-13-2010, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010SLVRBULIT

cool...

What he said with a beer too.

Shuffler · 07-13-2010, 12:42 PM

The code has still not been cracked in over 2 years this engine has been out. Your in for a long wait for a tune.

07-13-2010, 09:41 AM	#1
R8cerX Drives: 2010 CamaroSS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Burlington NC Posts: 217	2010 2LT/RS Auto- Baseline Dyno and then the mods begin Hey guys/girls, Just purchased my wife a 2010 Camaro 2LT/RS Automatic this weekend. As I am co-owner of Dyno Tuned Performance in Va. Beach I decided I would post all the dyno information that I can as the car gets modified. We are not a sponsoring vendor yet, but do plan to become one within the month. I do not sell parts over the internet, so don't feel there is any alterior motive here. I have been reading a lot of the V6 threads and most are going by how the car feels after a mod. Since I have a dyno at my disposal, I just figured I'd post what we get out of the mods that we do to this car. We baselined the car this morning. The mileage is 1250, 87 Octane in the tank and completely stock front to rear. One thing I can tell you for sure is that these cars are super sensitive to heat. The first pull was done as soon as I got to work, so the car was hot. The RWHP was 230.2 and the RWTQ was 218. We allowed the car to cool for 30 minutes and the RWHP jumped to 257.1 and the RWTQ to 234. I am filling the car up today with Shell 93 and will drive on that for a few days, then will re-dyno the car on Friday to see if there are any quantifiable advantages to using 93 over 87. The first mod will be an Airaid V2 as we have always seen great performance from the Airaid line. Once custom tuning software is available from either HP Tuners or Diablosport CMR, we will install some ARH LT's with HF cats and custom tune. I will post graphs and info as these mods happen. Attached Images __________________ Frank 10 Camaro Magnacharged- 585rwhp/585rwtq, full exhaust, Pedders Justice/ZL1 sway, Stoptech brakes and 21" 3 Pc. Forgeline wheels 99 Corvette- 502rwhp/460rwtq-402 N/A, 6pis/4pis brakes...fun track car

07-13-2010, 10:02 AM	#4
formare The Milano Drives: 2017 Firefly ShipWorks Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chicagoland (Crown Point, IN) Posts: 1,877 View My Garage	very good information - i look forward to more :-) __________________ My first Love. She was called "Miss Carriage" (still cry when I think about her) 383, Muncie 4 speed, custom linkage mated to hurst short throw shifter.

07-13-2010, 10:12 AM	#6
Moody'sSS Drives: IOM 2SS 2010 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North Carolina Posts: 289 View My Garage	__________________ OBX headers/Flowmaster AT exhaust/C.A.I. intake/ADM race scoop/RX catchcan/Black replica wheels/Vmax throttle body/JRE tune

07-13-2010, 11:16 AM	#9
spyderbuddy Drives: 2010 RS Inferno Orange Metallic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Albany, Ga. Posts: 3,398 View My Garage	Really waiting on that 93 octane run. __________________ PCP Hideaway Headlight Covers, BBK Headers & High Flow Cats, ZL1 Add-ons Wicker Bill, TL1/ZL1 Hood Insert, Gen5 DIY Frameless Mirror, ABL Dash Lighting an My link Navigation, Blacked out Rear Bowtie, all Sylvania led Turn Signals, Ceramic Window Tint By Nicks, MBRP Exhaust tips, GEN5 DIY Virginia Legal DRL Harness, Painted Brake Calipers, Vittesse Throttle Controller, Heritage Grill, Diode Dynamics Led Lighting, Manual Shifter Boot, Paddle Shifters, CNC Throttle Body, Trifecta Tune, RX Catch Can & Breather, Trunk Black out and Side Grills, Chevorlet door Sills.

07-13-2010, 11:27 AM	#10
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	Awsome! You can bet lots of us will be anxiously awaiting your updated posts on this thread as you add more mods over time. Glad that you seem to be mostly up to date on what affects the V6 as you have already mentioned heat and 93 octane (can't wait to see what happens on that one!). As far as tuning goes, I think your only bet is going through Trifecta. From what I understand, we may never see an option from HP Tuners or DiabloSport for the simple fact that a tune alone really has shown to do little to nothing for this car. It is basically to just optimize your Air/Fuel after doing mods, and even then a tune hasn't shown to provide big gains. Most bang for the buck tunewise seems to be from moding the auto tranny shifting and fighting of CELs when Long tube headers are added. Anyways...applaud you for your contribution! EDIT: Oh, and sweet color!!! lol __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

07-13-2010, 09:48 AM	#2
2010SLVRBULIT Drives: G5(LLT) & C6(LS3) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MARS Posts: 7,527 View My Garage	cool...

07-13-2010, 09:59 AM	#3
sailfan26 Camaro driver since 1975 Drives: 97 RS, 98 SS and 2010 LT/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Shore, Massachusetts Posts: 181	Good Morning Dtpracing! This is awesome. This is the kind of info I really want to see. I look forward to your posts!

07-13-2010, 10:04 AM	#5
jth6373 Drives: 2013 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 107	I am suprised to see that running 87 octane it did not pull any timing in the higher rpms...257 though is a good number for an auto.

07-13-2010, 10:54 AM	#8
speedy_g Drives: CAMARO RS V6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Hoffman Estates, IL Posts: 227 View My Garage	Vary cool ill be watching ...so u holding out for a tuner? Trifecta not up your alley ..

07-13-2010, 12:42 PM	#14
Shuffler God Bless Dawson Drives: Synergy for my Daughter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 3,057	The code has still not been cracked in over 2 years this engine has been out. Your in for a long wait for a tune. __________________