Why are most comparisons to an SS and not a ZL1?

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Yep. They built up from an SS, rather than going 'sideways' from a ZL1. So everything that was done on the car had the SS as the baseline. So it follows logically that most information would be presented relative to the SS instead of the ZL1.


Yeah, 3 seconds a lap improvement on the 3 mile Milford course is pretty 'marginal'

For context, the ZL1 is only about 2 seconds a lap ahead of the 1LE.

That 3 second gap is much much larger than the 2 second gap. The higher up the harder it is to create those gaps.

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by SamHouseIII

Yes I want one, no not bashing!

Yes I own a ZL1....but why are all most all comparisons done against the SS and not a ZL1 other than weight and lap time?

Perhaps because fewer people will ever get seat time in a ZL1 than in an SS. ZL1 comparisons other than those already made would be somewhat vague because of not having experience with either car, or with cars of performance comparable to the ZL1.

Forced induction also skews the way a car is perceived - F.I. adds a sense of additional cost, complexity, and front end weight, with an accompanying need to drive it a little differently. As good as the ZL1 is at cornering, it's still a "point and shoot" kind of car relative to either the 1LE or Z/28, which are the "momentum cars" in this comparison.


Norm

[Msmall143]

Ss compared to a z/28 is naturally aspirated compared to naturally aspirated, if you want to compare the z/28 to the zl1 then supercharge the z/28 and then compare

[Synerbee]

It looks more impressive comparing the Z/28 to the SS. It's all about how to generate more money.

[PYROLYSIS]

It also could be possible that the ZL1 can do some things better than the Z/28.

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

It also could be possible that the ZL1 can do some things better than the Z/28.

Seeing that the Z/28 is road-course oriented, one would be in the 1320 ft. range, and the other would be in ride quality and DD drivability.

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by Msmall143

Ss compared to a z/28 is naturally aspirated compared to naturally aspirated, if you want to compare the z/28 to the zl1 then supercharge the z/28 and then compare

To s/c the Z/28 no longer makes it so.

[SamHouseIII]

Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro

Seeing that the Z/28 is road-course oriented, one would be in the 1320 ft. range, and the other would be in ride quality and DD drivability.

But if you compare the ZL1 to the Z/28 the ZL1 had higher top speeds, so the corners is where the Z/28 wins.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by SamHouseIII

But if you compare the ZL1 to the Z/28 the ZL1 had higher top speeds, so the corners is where the Z/28 wins.

It also holds speed better going into the corner (less weight and braking) and gets power down faster coming out (less weight and gearing).

[PYROLYSIS]

Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro

Seeing that the Z/28 is road-course oriented, one would be in the 1320 ft. range, and the other would be in ride quality and DD drivability.

Forgot about daily driving capability. I do hope magnetic ride is an option in the sixth gen.

[ZWA SS]

Originally Posted by Msmall143

Ss compared to a z/28 is naturally aspirated compared to naturally aspirated, if you want to compare the z/28 to the zl1 then supercharge the z/28 and then compare

Then you're comparing 376 to 427. Which doesn't really even it up for comparison.
I think it is for marketing reasons. There are more SS owners that can relate the comparison to Z/28. Also makes it justifiable to be so exspensive seeing it perform so mun more vs SS.

[BigBoyBlue]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

They already compared the Z/28 to the ZL1 at their proving grounds which was done first.

Where did you get that MRC test track image? Do you have a link?


The Z/28 is only 4 seconds faster than the ZL1 around the Nurburgring. To me, that is marginally better. I would not give up the creature comforts of my ZL1 for those 4 seconds. This car is for the real hardcore racers among us.

[Norm Peterson]

4 seconds doesn't really tell the story. Given the differing weather conditions (favoring the ZL1) plus the ZL1's significantly higher top speed down that long straight (14 mph), it's pretty impressive that the Z/28 held on to that much.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/show...&postcount=319


There are (or at least were) videos floating around for when Z/28 rides were given to various members of the media. At 8/10ths driving rather than chasing hero lap times.


Norm

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by BigBoyBlue

Where did you get that MRC test track image? Do you have a link?


The Z/28 is only 4 seconds faster than the ZL1 around the Nurburgring. To me, that is marginally better. I would not give up the creature comforts of my ZL1 for those 4 seconds. This car is for the real hardcore racers among us.

On the forum. I saved a copy some time ago.

In reality the Z/28 is closer to 7:30 around the ring in conditions like the ZL1 experienced. Yes it is much more hardcore than the ZL1. You gotta love it because it's not built for touring.