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Old 11-23-2019, 09:06 PM   #1
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Negotiating dealer pricing...anyone have any success.

I have been watching the Z28 market for well over a year bow maybe two to be honest. I see a lot of these cars sit at dealerships for quite sometime. The Z28 is my dream car but to be honest I have somewhat accepted that at this point in my life it may not be the most practical car.

I have been watching the mid to high $30s wondering if I could get one right at $35k as i think I can justify that over buying a moddified 1le in the $20ks. There have been a few examples but they sell pretty quick.

Now to the point of my post. There is quite a few listings in the low $40ks generally I wouldn't consider that as at the moment this is more than I am looking to spend on a stock Z28. I found the car in the ad below and I am absolutely obsessed as it is 100% exactly what I am looking for at a decent price in my opinion. The problem being though it is just a tar higher than I think I am willing to swing after taxes and everything. I was wondering if others feel that based on the market there may be any wiggle room or should I not even bother.

At the moment my other option is an 15 AGM 1LE with cam and bolt one for low 20ks.

Any advice is appreciated!

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Old 11-23-2019, 09:09 PM   #2
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Old 11-23-2019, 09:10 PM   #3
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Honestly, no. The most I was able to get the priced dropped was $500 on my wife's Z. Mine wasn't going to budge. We got mine for 37k, and hers for 38k.

My advice is save for it. Don't settle. Get a decent down payment together and just go for it. You will not regret it. We daily drive ours AND track them.
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Old 11-23-2019, 09:29 PM   #4
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Best way would be to secure a pre approved loan for a set amount from your personal bank. Dont let them handle the financing. Once you have that, you can take the loan approval to the dealer and start negotiating price.
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Old 11-23-2019, 10:38 PM   #5
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A dealer will take the car to auction at a loss well before they give you a deal that’s not in their margin.
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Old 11-23-2019, 11:20 PM   #6
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If it were me,before even considering negotiations i would find out who did the mods give them a call and get some background on it. It may be the previous owner did all the install and just paid for a tune . Either way its been modded so no sense in comparing it to other Zs out there that haven't. Meaning resale in the future if prices ever do go up for an original , if you care about that kinda stuff. It doesnt matter to some of us . Good luck though. 20k in mods and only 8k miles is really not bad. You wouldn't happen to know the hp would you?
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Old 11-24-2019, 06:23 AM   #7
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Negotiating with the right dealership is possible but very rare in my experience. I bought my Z/28 from Andrews TX which is 45 min from where I live (Odessa). They worked with me on lowering the overall price once I offered to put down $5k as a down payment. I also had to play the “I’m getting up and leaving game” but in the end they came down quite a bit. The car was originally $50k when it showed up and after it sat on the lot for about a month I negotiated the price down to $42k. It only had 2086 miles on the clock.

A year before purchasing this red Z/28 I was eyeing one in San Antonio and it was also red with around 1500 miles Got talking to the salesman and offered to put down $10k for a down payment to get them to budge on the price. They wouldn’t go any lower than $48k so that was the end of that.

Save up some extra cash, go there with your own pre approved loan, and be ready to really get up and go. A lot of variables have to happen for a dealership to really negotiated with you. Funny story ... I took my Z/28 to the Odessa Chevy dealership for service and I actually had a salesman laugh in my face that he would have never sold me the car for what I got it for in Andrews when we got talking. Needless to say I’m not going to be taking my business there any time soon.

Be patient and don’t settle. Get your finances in order so this car can be a blessing and not a burden. One of the greatest cars I’ve ever driven on public roads. Good luck
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Old 11-24-2019, 11:27 AM   #8
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i like the Z28 but i don't want to pay for replacing the brakes.
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Old 11-24-2019, 01:09 PM   #9
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If you've been watching the market, you've seen that some of these Z/28's are on lots for a good long time.

IMO and others will agree... the mods that particular car do not add value to the car over a similar condition/miles/optioned 100% stock one. If anything it decreases the value of the car. Too many variables with unknown assembly, parts, tune, etc. So does selling the car with snow tires included, lol. If that car was driven in the winter, I'd ask for pics of the under carriage, impact areas on the rear qtrs, and pics of the front bumper. The wear/tear has to be evident. Same with what those canards are doing to the front bumper, they rubbing the paint off?

Value is in the eyes of the behold though. The market is based on what people are willing to pay.

Seasonality comes into play too... you're in PA, the cars in CO. Talk to them... you're interested, logistics of travel/transport in general are tough, even more so with winter. Doubtful people are coming into the dealer, asking for snow those tires to be mounted and driving it out.

IMO, plenty of options out there. Especially if you're at the top of your budget. Should be without questionable mods or usage. These things all can be used as bargaining leverage too.
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Old 11-24-2019, 04:46 PM   #10
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i like the Z28 but i don't want to pay for replacing the brakes.
Unless you track the car you will most likely not need to replace any brake parts, until I think they say 90,000 miles.
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:29 PM   #11
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They did all that work and stuck shorty headers on it lol
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Old 11-24-2019, 11:27 PM   #12
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They did all that work and stuck shorty headers on it lol
Oh lord!!! Well, there's another bargaining chip right there.
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Old 11-25-2019, 08:03 AM   #13
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Unless you track the car you will most likely not need to replace any brake parts, until I think they say 90,000 miles.
Pads aren't going to last that long. As a daily, the rotors might, but my pads were down to 80% (@6200 miles) on my Z/28 from the previous owner, who didn't track it or anything. You are supposed to swap them out @ 50%. But considering the pads aren't nearly as expensive as the rotors, at least its not quite as bad (~900 bucks for the pads for front and rear)
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Old 11-25-2019, 08:26 AM   #14
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I have been watching the Z28 market for well over a year bow maybe two to be honest. I see a lot of these cars sit at dealerships for quite sometime. The Z28 is my dream car but to be honest I have somewhat accepted that at this point in my life it may not be the most practical car.

I have been watching the mid to high $30s wondering if I could get one right at $35k as i think I can justify that over buying a moddified 1le in the $20ks. There have been a few examples but they sell pretty quick.

Now to the point of my post. There is quite a few listings in the low $40ks generally I wouldn't consider that as at the moment this is more than I am looking to spend on a stock Z28. I found the car in the ad below and I am absolutely obsessed as it is 100% exactly what I am looking for at a decent price in my opinion. The problem being though it is just a tar higher than I think I am willing to swing after taxes and everything. I was wondering if others feel that based on the market there may be any wiggle room or should I not even bother.

At the moment my other option is an 15 AGM 1LE with cam and bolt one for low 20ks.

Any advice is appreciated!

Jared
It seems as if you're stretching your finances on an unpractical vehicle that you plan on daily driving in Pennsylvania winters. Please, be smart about this. The Z/28 is not a winter friendly vehicle. Can you strap winter tires on it and make a go? Certainly. But why? That huge track-inspired splitter makes a better snowplow than anything. It will be torn off in now time. If you can't outright buy a $35-40k car AND have a designated winter DD, this isn't for you, IMHO. There are plenty of winter capable, cheaper choices out there. Good luck.
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