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Old 01-03-2013, 08:27 AM   #43
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i have the cat back on a 2012 from solo no rice sound at all!!!
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:59 AM   #44
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These do not have any ricey sound at all...we would not have released it if that were the case. Our name is on it, so we have to stand behind it.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:29 AM   #45
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I was simply asking because the npp factory exhaust and non npp factory exhaust are different. Just making sure before i take the plunge.


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Old 01-03-2013, 02:26 PM   #46
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will the HFC void my GM warranty?
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:21 PM   #47
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Is this group buy only for lfx or can llt get in on it too?
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:09 AM   #48
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This sounds really good, but this part

  • These converters are not CARB certified, but they do pass all emissions and keep the CEL light off.
  • They are technically for off road use only.
makes me think that my dealer would throw a fit if I put it on a leased car.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:25 AM   #49
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From what ice heard its not legal to take converters off a car but if yours were stolen for their material value you have to replace them. That said, yours could have been stolen and you replaced them with these.
Your dealership won't have anything to say about HFC being installed. They may have issue with headers but not cats. I kinda checked on all this prior to my install and I love them! No "Rice" sound as someone said. My neighbors heard my car after install and yelled over "you've made some changes over there. Sounds like a whole lot of HP going on over there." My GF said my car is loud but not overly but significantly louder than before. I've now had people question the validity of my saying its a v6. There problem not mine but I love the sound and performance of it even more so! Now the question is what to do with my stock cat$?
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:46 PM   #50
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This sounds really good, but this part

  • These converters are not CARB certified, but they do pass all emissions and keep the CEL light off.
  • They are technically for off road use only.
makes me think that my dealer would throw a fit if I put it on a leased car.
A dealer would not be able to void warranty under the Magnusson-Moss Law. They would have to prove that your cats caused whatever issue you have with the car, otherwise they can not legally void your warranty under that law. They assume most consumers don't know this, so they will just tell you otherwise.
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:47 PM   #51
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From what ice heard its not legal to take converters off a car but if yours were stolen for their material value you have to replace them. That said, yours could have been stolen and you replaced them with these.
Your dealership won't have anything to say about HFC being installed. They may have issue with headers but not cats. I kinda checked on all this prior to my install and I love them! No "Rice" sound as someone said. My neighbors heard my car after install and yelled over "you've made some changes over there. Sounds like a whole lot of HP going on over there." My GF said my car is loud but not overly but significantly louder than before. I've now had people question the validity of my saying its a v6. There problem not mine but I love the sound and performance of it even more so! Now the question is what to do with my stock cat$?
Thanks for the kind words and you are absolutely 100% correct!
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:41 PM   #52
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I have to ask. This thread is heading into its third week and I still only see 3 on the list that have purchased it from this forum to get the discount and no where near the 10 to get the best deal. My question is, anytime in the future are you planing on lowering the price on these units instead of waiting for 7 more people to order them? Only 3 sold in 3 weeks here at a popular forum like this tells me that I am not the only one that thinks these are high priced. I probably would have ordered a set up by now if they were say about $150 less(same price then as my axle-backs) and how many other people are thinking the same thing?

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Old 01-05-2013, 04:12 PM   #53
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I have to ask. This thread is heading into its third week and I still only see 3 on the list that have purchased it from this forum to get the discount and no where near the 10 to get the best deal. My question is, anytime in the future are you planing on lowering the price on these units instead of waiting for 7 more people to order them? Only 3 sold in 3 weeks here at a popular forum like this tells me that I am not the only one that thinks these are high priced. I probably would have ordered a set up by now if they were say about $150 less(same price then as my axle-backs) and how many other people are thinking the same thing?

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Indeed! Once we get into the $500 range, I definitely see myself putting this on my short list of mods.
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Old 01-05-2013, 04:50 PM   #54
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I have to ask. This thread is heading into its third week and I still only see 3 on the list that have purchased it from this forum to get the discount and no where near the 10 to get the best deal. My question is, anytime in the future are you planing on lowering the price on these units instead of waiting for 7 more people to order them? Only 3 sold in 3 weeks here at a popular forum like this tells me that I am not the only one that thinks these are high priced. I probably would have ordered a set up by now if they were say about $150 less(same price then as my axle-backs) and how many other people are thinking the same thing?

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The retail price unfortunately is not going to be any lower because of the high cost to us as in making these. Margins are super thin on them because of the quality converter we use, along with the process in manufacturing them. We are the only converter that flows well enough AND filters harmless gases enough to prevent a check engine light. The winding process of the internal substrate is done using a special technique to ensure they never break apart, and they are chemically coated. It is also a fully bolt on unit, and comes with 02 extenders and all necessary hardware for installation.

What we need are more people to commit...as people purchase them, the price gets lower. You pay full price up front, but get that money back in the end with more people jumping in. Group buys like this usually start slow until a bunch more buy and post feedback, then everyone jumps in and the discount rapidly grows. Thanks so much and I hope this helps. Have a great day!

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The retail price unfortunately is not going to be any lower because of the high cost to us as in making these. Margins are super thin on them because of the quality converter we use, along with the process in manufacturing them. We are the only converter that flows well enough AND filters harmless gases enough to prevent a check engine light. The winding process of the internal substrate is done using a special technique to ensure they never break apart, and they are chemically coated. It is also a fully bolt on unit, and comes with 02 extenders and all necessary hardware for installation.

What we need are more people to commit...as people purchase them, the price gets lower. You pay full price up front, but get that money back in the end with more people jumping in. Group buys like this usually start slow until a bunch more buy and post feedback, then everyone jumps in and the discount rapidly grows. Thanks so much and I hope this helps. Have a great day!

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Thanks for the feedback! I am interested because the LFX doesn't really have any options for actual performance gains with exhaust bolt-on items, yet some of us still have to deal with emissions (the scary part with changing cats). :(

Definitely waiting to hear more 'real world' feedback. It will likely get a lot of people off the fence.
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Old 01-06-2013, 07:53 PM   #56
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The retail price unfortunately is not going to be any lower because of the high cost to us as in making these. Margins are super thin on them because of the quality converter we use, along with the process in manufacturing them. We are the only converter that flows well enough AND filters harmless gases enough to prevent a check engine light. The winding process of the internal substrate is done using a special technique to ensure they never break apart, and they are chemically coated. It is also a fully bolt on unit, and comes with 02 extenders and all necessary hardware for installation.

What we need are more people to commit...as people purchase them, the price gets lower. You pay full price up front, but get that money back in the end with more people jumping in. Group buys like this usually start slow until a bunch more buy and post feedback, then everyone jumps in and the discount rapidly grows. Thanks so much and I hope this helps. Have a great day!

Steve
Thank you for the information, I appreciate it. So if you hit 15 buyers we get approximately $105 back if my math is right, correct? So $594 total and free shipping if I have done the math. Okay, last question, since it seems kind of slow on selling are you planning on extending the deadline? I would probably think seriously about the 15% deal but that might not happen though. I will keep an eye on the list.

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