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litle88 · 02-25-2013, 08:05 PM

The Stage 8's are bud, I see the ARP's might be a Lil easier.

rberns · 02-25-2013, 10:47 PM

So now I am looking at ARP. Seems like it has a cleaner look to it. Anybody have direct links to what I need for my L99? I think I am going more for the ARP Bolts and not the studs.

axis · 02-26-2013, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rberns

One of the guys I talked to said that I will need to retighten my bolts if I choose to go with the OEM bolts and I know that he torqued them down to the correct specs.

It's common practice to go back over any exhaust installation to make sure the bolts didn't loosen up with the constant heat and vibration. You should just have to recheck them once. I guess the stage 8 bolts wouldn't need that but it's not like it's a PITA to spend 15min with a Tq wrench, checking the 12 header bolts. FWIW, not a single one of mine was below tq specs after 1k miles. I'm using the OEM bolts as well. I've never heard of anyone having a issue with the OEM gasket or bolts.

429 · 02-26-2013, 12:23 AM

Stage 8s are good in theory and poor in practice. Will they prevent a bolt from loosening (out)? Yes. But what happens when they get a little loose? Now you have a bolt being fatigued for no reason and a stupid metal clip digging into your header. At that point the bolt is already useless, tighten it and it will just come loose again. 16 rattling reasons for the knock sensors to pick up false knock is not my idea of a good time. Nothing wrong with factory bolts.

Fast6.3 · 02-26-2013, 12:24 AM

Arent there only 10 bolts

axis · 02-26-2013, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fast6.3

Arent there only 10 bolts

I had to look at a pic from Jannetty.

There are 12 holes in the header flanges.

VADER SS L99 · 02-26-2013, 12:45 AM

I'm curious if anyone has ever had a leak from the stock bolts and stock header gaskets becuase I havent heard about any problems. Seems to me stock has worked really good.

biggerisbetter · 02-26-2013, 06:52 AM

i went stock and had no probs at all

JDP Tech · 02-26-2013, 10:46 AM

We will only use new GM factory exhaust manifold gaskets on all header installs. They are usually much better quality than anything you will get with the header.

We always use anti-seize on either the bolts that come with headers or the factory bolts. Tighten them down correctly (center working out side to side), get it hot once or twice, recheck them, and they will usually stay tight with no problem. If you're worried about it, check it a year later, but we've never had problems using anti-seize; plus you will be grateful you did when you take them off for whatever reason down the road. While ARP and Stage8 bolts do look nice, IMHO they aren't worth the cost unless you go with a super cheap set of headers.

Feel free to call, email, or PM us anytime!
- Jeremy

LS3 SS · 02-26-2013, 12:15 PM

I have Stage 8 locking header bolts on my car currently, not as big as a "PITA" as some may make it seem. There's really nothing difficult about bending a metal tab against your flange. After breaking an OEM bolt, and having to re-torque them down after my LT install (heat cycles), I didn't want to deal with the oem bolts anymore, so I got the Stage 8's from TSP.

toml_pa · 02-26-2013, 03:55 PM

ARP Stainless Steel Header Bolts 434-1202

1sikRS · 02-26-2013, 03:56 PM

I used percy locking header bolts I reccomend them as well wag better then stage 8

02-25-2013, 08:05 PM	#15
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	The Stage 8's are bud, I see the ARP's might be a Lil easier. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

02-25-2013, 10:47 PM	#16
rberns Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,291 View My Garage	So now I am looking at ARP. Seems like it has a cleaner look to it. Anybody have direct links to what I need for my L99? I think I am going more for the ARP Bolts and not the studs. __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS, Circle D 3200, ADM Transmission Cooler, BTR Valvetrain, Cam Motion .621 .595 228/244 113+4, ARH 1 7/8 full exhaust, Cold Air Inductions, Katech C5R TC, Melling HV, BTR SLR lifters, Trunion Upgrade, LS2 Dampner, LS9 head gaskets, Bo White PTB, MM can, GFX, Subs, B&M Deep transmission pan, Holley fuel rail, Proform valve covers, relocated coil packs

02-26-2013, 12:24 AM	#19
Fast6.3 Drives: 2016 2SS coupe 2015 3LT Stingray Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: El paso texas Posts: 880 View My Garage	Arent there only 10 bolts __________________ Ported intake manifold and throttle body kooks 2" headers no cats

02-26-2013, 12:45 AM	#21
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	I'm curious if anyone has ever had a leak from the stock bolts and stock header gaskets becuase I havent heard about any problems. Seems to me stock has worked really good. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

02-26-2013, 12:23 AM	#18
429 Account Suspended Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Richmond Hill, GA Posts: 726	Stage 8s are good in theory and poor in practice. Will they prevent a bolt from loosening (out)? Yes. But what happens when they get a little loose? Now you have a bolt being fatigued for no reason and a stupid metal clip digging into your header. At that point the bolt is already useless, tighten it and it will just come loose again. 16 rattling reasons for the knock sensors to pick up false knock is not my idea of a good time. Nothing wrong with factory bolts.

02-26-2013, 06:52 AM	#22
biggerisbetter lll Drives: 2010 camaro ss L99 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: new orleans Posts: 1,176	i went stock and had no probs at all

02-26-2013, 10:46 AM	#23
JDP Tech Drives: 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS/RS 429 LSX/F1X Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Sandy, UT Posts: 429	We will only use new GM factory exhaust manifold gaskets on all header installs. They are usually much better quality than anything you will get with the header. We always use anti-seize on either the bolts that come with headers or the factory bolts. Tighten them down correctly (center working out side to side), get it hot once or twice, recheck them, and they will usually stay tight with no problem. If you're worried about it, check it a year later, but we've never had problems using anti-seize; plus you will be grateful you did when you take them off for whatever reason down the road. While ARP and Stage8 bolts do look nice, IMHO they aren't worth the cost unless you go with a super cheap set of headers. Feel free to call, email, or PM us anytime! - Jeremy

02-26-2013, 12:15 PM	#24
LS3 SS Drives: 2010 Cyber Grey Camaro SS (LS3) Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Clarksville TN Posts: 2,275	I have Stage 8 locking header bolts on my car currently, not as big as a "PITA" as some may make it seem. There's really nothing difficult about bending a metal tab against your flange. After breaking an OEM bolt, and having to re-torque them down after my LT install (heat cycles), I didn't want to deal with the oem bolts anymore, so I got the Stage 8's from TSP.

02-26-2013, 03:55 PM	#25
toml_pa ʇuɐıʌǝp lɐıɔos Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3/M6 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 231	ARP Stainless Steel Header Bolts 434-1202

02-26-2013, 03:56 PM	#26
1sikRS Drives: chevy Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: cleveland ohio Posts: 847	I used percy locking header bolts I reccomend them as well wag better then stage 8