ROTO-FAB DYNO RESULTS!

Roto-fab 1 · 03-04-2017, 05:44 PM

First, thanks to the team at Xtreme Motorsports in Tempe, AZ for taking the time to dyno test our 2017 ZL1. Jan, Cody and Matt were great to work with. I was glad to see they showed a genuine interest in the performance of the products they offer.
The graph shows the Roto-fab system along with the stock baseline numbers. Our ZL1 put 586 HP to the tires and about a 1 lb increase in boost with our intake system installed! AFRs were in a very safe range with some room to tune for more power if you so desire. The results shown are without a tune-simply dropping in the Roto-fab intake system. Our intake is gaining about 26 HP over stock along with good torque gains across the upper RPMs. I'm confident you will be impressed with the AFRs, LTFTS and increase in boost. This is a true bolt-on system that really works. Not only does it perform well, it sounds awesome!
If you research the 2012-15 ZL1, you will see the Roto-fab is widely known as the one that works and makes the most power. Likewise, I fully believe our 2017 ZL1 intake will give you the best gains possible by a CAI and I can't wait for some reputable third party test results from this system!
We actually used the higher stock pull as the baseline. We could show a larger gain by using one of the lower stock pulls as a baseline. However, we like to keep things “real” for our customers. We don’t take the lowest baseline pull and compare it to the highest Roto-fab pull. When comparing to others, keep in mind we keep our claims very realistic. Although dyno numbers will always vary, we have a solid track record in terms of others seeing results matching our claims.

For those of you that think all air intakes are about the same-nothing could be further from the truth. The 6th gen Camaro is completely different and an intake system which functions properly is extremely rare. If you read third party test results from some of the experts in the field, you will see the Roto-fab stands out as the one that actually performs as it should with the engine's management system. Granted, there was not as much left on the table with the 16-17 Camaro SS in terms of gains with a CAI, but our system takes what's there. Like the 5th gens, the higher air demands of the ZL1 make it possible for us to achieve larger gains as compared to the SS.
We think it’s important for our customers to make an educated decision. Any time you test an intake, the car’s engine management system must first “learn” the intake. This is done through driving under various load conditions. Remember, these cars don’t use fuel trims at WOT. Rather, they use the fuel trims and other information learned to calculate WOT fueling. If you pull the stock intake, drop in our intake and make a WOT pull on the dyno, the fueling used will be for the stock intake and not ours. The same holds true if our intake has been on your car and you switch to stock. The car will need to learn the stock intake in order for you to achieve accurate numbers. Just something to keep in mind.

NB2017ZL1 · 03-04-2017, 05:50 PM

Wow. Let us all know when these will be going to market. Great job Mike!

Can'tHave2MuchHP · 03-04-2017, 06:22 PM

Very nice.

LiqTenExp · 03-04-2017, 06:42 PM

Probably one of the few things I'd buy so far for my ZL1 (once it is delivered, lol)

hawk02 · 03-04-2017, 06:50 PM

A little disappointed to see the slight loss of torque on the low end. There seems to be a drop in boost right around 75 mph. I'd love to see a comparison of knock retard between the stock airbox and the Roto-Fab -- especially in the lower RPM range.

cleoent · 03-04-2017, 07:09 PM

Roto-Fab,

What say you about the recent post (i dont want to look for it) that said CAI will show a gain if you dyno back to back because the computer hasn't adjusted yet for the additional air, so it's running lean and making more power.

let's say after 1k miles, and the stock computer has adjusted for the additional air, will the gains still be there? Any testing around this?

Roto-fab 1 · 03-04-2017, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NB2017ZL1

Wow. Let us all know when these will be going to market. Great job Mike!

We certainly will. Now that we know we are where we want to be, we can finalize tooling and patterns.

KyleL · 03-04-2017, 07:39 PM

I want......now!

kttxz06 · 03-04-2017, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawk02

A little disappointed to see the slight loss of torque on the low end. There seems to be a drop in boost right around 75 mph. I'd love to see a comparison of knock retard between the stock airbox and the Roto-Fab -- especially in the lower RPM range.

A tune will clean all that up.

Evolvedx27 · 03-04-2017, 11:53 PM

Comparisons to any enclosed airbox setups? If any are available that is...

Zeke.Malvo · 03-05-2017, 01:35 AM

Dynos are nice, but what does it translate to in the real world with hood closed? What kind of mph gains in the 1/4?

big dave · 03-05-2017, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke.Malvo

Dynos are nice, but what does it translate to in the real world with hood closed? What kind of mph gains in the 1/4?

This is what's most important to me also. Great question!

KyleL · 03-05-2017, 11:47 AM

I thought they did dyno their products with the hood closed?

Will there be any introductory specials/group buys by chance?

htron50 · 03-05-2017, 12:04 PM

It appears flywheel HP is increased to about 680

(vs 650 stock) based on applying the same drivetrain loss equation to both runs.

03-04-2017, 05:44 PM	#1
Roto-fab 1 Drives: 16 Camaro SS w/ Roto-fab CAI Join Date: May 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,682	ROTO-FAB DYNO RESULTS! First, thanks to the team at Xtreme Motorsports in Tempe, AZ for taking the time to dyno test our 2017 ZL1. Jan, Cody and Matt were great to work with. I was glad to see they showed a genuine interest in the performance of the products they offer. The graph shows the Roto-fab system along with the stock baseline numbers. Our ZL1 put 586 HP to the tires and about a 1 lb increase in boost with our intake system installed! AFRs were in a very safe range with some room to tune for more power if you so desire. The results shown are without a tune-simply dropping in the Roto-fab intake system. Our intake is gaining about 26 HP over stock along with good torque gains across the upper RPMs. I'm confident you will be impressed with the AFRs, LTFTS and increase in boost. This is a true bolt-on system that really works. Not only does it perform well, it sounds awesome! If you research the 2012-15 ZL1, you will see the Roto-fab is widely known as the one that works and makes the most power. Likewise, I fully believe our 2017 ZL1 intake will give you the best gains possible by a CAI and I can't wait for some reputable third party test results from this system! We actually used the higher stock pull as the baseline. We could show a larger gain by using one of the lower stock pulls as a baseline. However, we like to keep things “real” for our customers. We don’t take the lowest baseline pull and compare it to the highest Roto-fab pull. When comparing to others, keep in mind we keep our claims very realistic. Although dyno numbers will always vary, we have a solid track record in terms of others seeing results matching our claims. For those of you that think all air intakes are about the same-nothing could be further from the truth. The 6th gen Camaro is completely different and an intake system which functions properly is extremely rare. If you read third party test results from some of the experts in the field, you will see the Roto-fab stands out as the one that actually performs as it should with the engine's management system. Granted, there was not as much left on the table with the 16-17 Camaro SS in terms of gains with a CAI, but our system takes what's there. Like the 5th gens, the higher air demands of the ZL1 make it possible for us to achieve larger gains as compared to the SS. We think it’s important for our customers to make an educated decision. Any time you test an intake, the car’s engine management system must first “learn” the intake. This is done through driving under various load conditions. Remember, these cars don’t use fuel trims at WOT. Rather, they use the fuel trims and other information learned to calculate WOT fueling. If you pull the stock intake, drop in our intake and make a WOT pull on the dyno, the fueling used will be for the stock intake and not ours. The same holds true if our intake has been on your car and you switch to stock. The car will need to learn the stock intake in order for you to achieve accurate numbers. Just something to keep in mind. Last edited by Roto-fab 1; 07-19-2017 at 04:13 PM.

03-04-2017, 05:50 PM	#2
NB2017ZL1 Drives: 2017 ZL1 10 Speed Hyper Blue Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Canada Posts: 1,349	Wow. Let us all know when these will be going to market. Great job Mike! __________________ 2017 ZL1

03-04-2017, 06:42 PM	#4
LiqTenExp Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: NJ Posts: 905	Probably one of the few things I'd buy so far for my ZL1 (once it is delivered, lol) __________________ 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe M6 (847whp Dynojet on 93)

03-04-2017, 06:50 PM	#5
hawk02 Coupe Newbie Drives: 2017 ZL1, 2021 Corvette Convertible Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 3,279 View My Garage	A little disappointed to see the slight loss of torque on the low end. There seems to be a drop in boost right around 75 mph. I'd love to see a comparison of knock retard between the stock airbox and the Roto-Fab -- especially in the lower RPM range. __________________

03-04-2017, 07:09 PM	#6
cleoent Drives: 16' Camaro E-Force SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Morgan Hill, Ca Posts: 836	Roto-Fab, What say you about the recent post (i dont want to look for it) that said CAI will show a gain if you dyno back to back because the computer hasn't adjusted yet for the additional air, so it's running lean and making more power. let's say after 1k miles, and the stock computer has adjusted for the additional air, will the gains still be there? Any testing around this? __________________ Leo 2016 e-Force 2SS Instagram @cleoent

03-04-2017, 06:22 PM	#3
Can'tHave2MuchHP Drives: Fast Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,696	Very nice.

03-04-2017, 07:39 PM	#8
KyleL Drives: Slow Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 669	I want......now! __________________ 2016 Toyota 4Runner 2017 Camaro ZL1

03-04-2017, 11:53 PM	#10
Evolvedx27 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,036	Comparisons to any enclosed airbox setups? If any are available that is...

03-05-2017, 01:35 AM	#11
Zeke.Malvo Drives: 1969 Mustang MaCh1 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: SJ Posts: 835	Dynos are nice, but what does it translate to in the real world with hood closed? What kind of mph gains in the 1/4? __________________ 1969 Pro-Touring MaCh 1 - CHP 427w 10.8 comp - 3140 lbs. - 460 rwhp / 490 rwtq T56 Magnum \|\| 14" 6 piston front / 13" 4 piston rear Wilwood brakes \|\| Hydraulic clutch \|\| 9" Detroit Locker \|\| TCP Coilovers \|\| Forgeline Wheels 18x10 275/35 front, 19x12 325/30 rear

03-05-2017, 11:47 AM	#13
KyleL Drives: Slow Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 669	I thought they did dyno their products with the hood closed? Will there be any introductory specials/group buys by chance? __________________ 2016 Toyota 4Runner 2017 Camaro ZL1

03-05-2017, 12:04 PM	#14
htron50 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Status "Thank You!" Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,498	It appears flywheel HP is increased to about 680 (vs 650 stock) based on applying the same drivetrain loss equation to both runs.

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