Performance mods to match a new 1LE in a drag race.

[6low]

A 6th gen 1le weighs 3750lbs and the 5th gen 1le weighs 3860lbs. That's a 110lb difference. 6th gen is marketed at 455 horse and a lot of us know 2013+ camaros are actually putting down more than 426, more than likely around 432ish hp.

3750/455 = 8.24lb per horsepower. Motortrend puts the 1/4 mile at 12.5 and 0-60 at 4.1

3860/432 = 8.94lb per horsepower. Motortrend puts the 1/4 at 12.7 and 0-60 at 4.3

Now, if you were to ONLY add hp to the 5th gen, you would need about: 3860/470hp = 8.21lb/hp. This is a vacuum comparison, not including gear ratios and driver. For curiosity, let's say we remove 100lbs from the 5th gen. 3760/432 = 8.7lb/hp. 3760/457= 8.23lb/hp. The removal of 100 lbs and the addition of 2hp (in comparison to the 6th gen, so 432+*27*hp) under these simple equations, give us an idea of what should be needed to beat it. This is about as accurate as we can get without putting the 2 cars next to each other and comparing mods back to back.

Also, I want to add that the 6th gen 1le is manual only as well. Racing a 6th gen automatic ss is going to be a different story because it has 8 gears and shifts insanely fast. You will need more power as that 8 speed is going to drop him back into the sweet spot of the band, better than our 6 speed.

[Gstick]

Originally Posted by 6low

A 6th gen 1le weighs 3750lbs and the 5th gen 1le weighs 3860lbs. That's a 110lb difference. 6th gen is marketed at 455 horse and a lot of us know 2013+ camaros are actually putting down more than 426, more than likely around 432ish hp.

3750/455 = 8.24lb per horsepower. Motortrend puts the 1/4 mile at 12.5 and 0-60 at 4.1

3860/432 = 8.94lb per horsepower. Motortrend puts the 1/4 at 12.7 and 0-60 at 4.3

Now, if you were to ONLY add hp to the 5th gen, you would need about: 3860/470hp = 8.21lb/hp. This is a vacuum comparison, not including gear ratios and driver. For curiosity, let's say we remove 100lbs from the 5th gen. 3760/432 = 8.7lb/hp. 3760/457= 8.23lb/hp. The removal of 100 lbs and the addition of 2hp under these simple equations, give us an idea of what should be needed to beat it. This is about as accurate as we can get without putting the 2 cars next to each other and comparing mods back to back.

Also, I want to add that the 6th gen 1le is manual only as well. Racing a 6th gen automatic ss is going to be a different story because it has 8 gears and shifts insanely fast. You will need more power as that 8 speed is going to drop him back into the sweet spot of the band, better than our 6 speed.

Wow, very interesting numbers. I had no idea that the 6th gen 1LE's were that heavy. Thanks for posting this !!!

[6low]

Originally Posted by Gstick

Wow, very interesting numbers. I had no idea that the 6th gen 1LE's were that heavy. Thanks for posting this !!!

Yep! I believe the non 1le variant of the 6th gen ss, weighs a bit less than the 1le package. Magnetic ride? Not 100% sure what the reasoning is. I was extremely curious to see just how much of a difference there was, obviously wanting the faster car... after some research it turns out the difference really isn't as much as people parrot.

HOLD ON TO YOUR 5TH GEN 1LE LADS! I've seen more lamborghinis than I have 5th gen 1le's where I live, South of Minneapolis!

[Ls_Camaro]

Originally Posted by 6low

A 6th gen 1le weighs 3750lbs and the 5th gen 1le weighs 3860lbs. That's a 110lb difference. 6th gen is marketed at 455 horse and a lot of us know 2013+ camaros are actually putting down more than 426, more than likely around 432ish hp.

3750/455 = 8.24lb per horsepower. Motortrend puts the 1/4 mile at 12.5 and 0-60 at 4.1

3860/432 = 8.94lb per horsepower. Motortrend puts the 1/4 at 12.7 and 0-60 at 4.3

Now, if you were to ONLY add hp to the 5th gen, you would need about: 3860/470hp = 8.21lb/hp. This is a vacuum comparison, not including gear ratios and driver. For curiosity, let's say we remove 100lbs from the 5th gen. 3760/432 = 8.7lb/hp. 3760/457= 8.23lb/hp. The removal of 100 lbs and the addition of 2hp under these simple equations, give us an idea of what should be needed to beat it. This is about as accurate as we can get without putting the 2 cars next to each other and comparing mods back to back.

Also, I want to add that the 6th gen 1le is manual only as well. Racing a 6th gen automatic ss is going to be a different story because it has 8 gears and shifts insanely fast. You will need more power as that 8 speed is going to drop him back into the sweet spot of the band, better than our 6 speed.

Wow this was pretty good quality information that you shared here! I do appreciate this. And by the way I must say your 5th gen 1LE in your avatar pic looks really nice especially in the summit white. I think they look best in that color. The 5th gen 1LE IMO does look better than the 6th gen 1LE. I sat in a 6th gen 1LE (2017) and it was way too small as well.

[BAH2SS]

Not sure about the new 1LE performance gains over the SS.

having said that, a bolt ons 5th gen 1LE edges the 6th gen SS

[_Onyx_Wolf_]

Here’s my 1le putting busses on a 6th gen https://youtu.be/ewezoVqUDTs

[Venomcustom]

Originally Posted by _Onyx_Wolf_

Here’s my 1le putting busses on a 6th gen https://youtu.be/ewezoVqUDTs

What’s been done to your 1LE?

[_Onyx_Wolf_]

Originally Posted by Venomcustom

What’s been done to your 1LE?

Some weight reduction, fbo stage 3 cam, gpi intake,bo white stage 3 throttle body and a custom street tune no dyno. Building the motor for all out n/a since it got hurt when a lifter fully collapsed.

[Venomcustom]

Originally Posted by _Onyx_Wolf_

Some weight reduction, fbo stage 3 cam, gpi intake,bo white stage 3 throttle body and a custom street tune no dyno. Building the motor for all out n/a since it got hurt when a lifter fully collapsed.

Runs and sounds good!!!

[_Onyx_Wolf_]

Originally Posted by Venomcustom

Runs and sounds good!!!

Thanks bro the gpi intake with bo whites throttle body really woke up my setup back then haha

[pomomp]

Originally Posted by Vegas Bound

What is your starting point? What are you adding the performance mods you? For all I know, you have a v6.

A V6 in a 5th gen 1LE sub forum?