Looks like there is finally proof, the Manual IS Quicker.... - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Mblock66 · 09-26-2008, 09:39 AM

Here is a quote from a discussion someone had with a person that ACTUALLY has tested the new camaro. I knew this was going to be the case all along. People had the times backwards as I thought. 4.6 for MT 4.9 for AT

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After Al announced 0-60 in 4.6 at the Summit the other night, I walked over and asked him specifically if that time was for the stick or the auto, since I was also under the impression that the auto was supposed to be faster.
Al replied replied that the 4.6 time was indeed, for the stick and that he was the one who actually wrung that time out of the car.
To confirm, I then said, "So the manual is quicker?" and his response was, "Yeah, by a couple of ticks."

... and the manual is actually now very easy to launch with the new Launch Control feature that's available on the SS. Al explained during the info session yesterday that in the right setting, just get the revs up and dump the clutch... and the car takes off with optimal grip. "It will make for very consistent times", was how Al described it.

He also added that they had just found there was actually a little bit of brake drag from the Brembos, and that he would be looking forward to a little better time once that gets ironed

SS4EVER · 09-26-2008, 09:41 AM

Sweet... This news makes me happy seeing I'll be getting a 6-spd.

So the same should apply with the Aisin 6spd manual for the V6?

Mblock66 · 09-26-2008, 09:45 AM

No idea, but I am glad this is finally resolved. It was amazing how many people jumped on the AT is faster bandwagon with information that had absolutely no merit. And it spread like WILDFIRE.

I knew all along that this wasn't going to be the case when they actually start to test it. With more HP and TQ, less weight, and launch control the MT can't possibly be slower (with a good driver) But no one listened to reason, I am just glad there is a solid test out there and from the sound of it they may be able to squeeze out another tenth or two when they fix the brake issue

MT looks like it will be a high 12's car. AT will be a low 13's car

Muscle Master · 09-26-2008, 09:54 AM

Thats good I Like........., But the Chally is going to be on that ass with our 0-60 in 4.9

*GTAHVIT* · 09-26-2008, 10:09 AM

^This isn't horse shoes or hand grenades... First across the line is still first across the line....

You guys better get used to it....

linkwpc · 09-26-2008, 10:14 AM

Now that more like it! I really looking forward to buy my first NEW car with a manual

gladiatoro · 09-26-2008, 10:18 AM

he said a couple of ticks slower for the auto which means (2) so the automatic should be 4.8 not 4.9 at it's quickest then

Hylton · 09-26-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Muscle Master

Thats good I Like........., But the Chally is going to be on that ass with our 0-60 in 4.9

Oh please!

karr1008 · 09-26-2008, 10:26 AM

Wow, 4.6 on the 0-60 mph on the manual with launch control. Impressive!
I wonder what it would do after I install a magnacharger, headers and a less restrictive exhaust...low 4's I hope.

Mblock66 · 09-26-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gladiatoro

he said a couple of ticks slower for the auto which means (2) so the automatic should be 4.8 not 4.9 at it's quickest then

I think you are nit picking a littttle much lol.

Mblock66 · 09-26-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by karr1008

Wow, 4.6 on the 0-60 mph on the manual with launch control. Impressive!
I wonder what it would do after I install a magnacharger, headers and a less restrictive exhaust...low 4's I hope.

Honestly it could actually run slower if you don't get better suspension and rubber to put that power to the ground. You might spin all the way through 60 mph

headpunter · 09-26-2008, 10:31 AM

guys this cant be true, the auto has optimized shift points, i mean OPTIMIZED SHIFT POINTS.

Mblock66 · 09-26-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by headpunter

guys this cant be true, the auto has optimized shift points, i mean OPTIMIZED SHIFT POINTS.

karr1008 · 09-26-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mblock66

Honestly it could actually run slower if you don't get better suspension and rubber to put that power to the ground. You might spin all the way through 60 mph

Yep, you are right. Some R compounds to grip better and avoid a fireworks show on takeoff

09-26-2008, 09:41 AM	#2
SS4EVER Camaro Convert... Drives: 2006 Cobalt SS Supercharged Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Metro Detroit, Mi Posts: 595 View My Garage	Sweet... This news makes me happy seeing I'll be getting a 6-spd. So the same should apply with the Aisin 6spd manual for the V6? __________________ 4 life! Currently Driving: 2006 Cobalt SS Supercharged

09-26-2008, 10:09 AM	#5
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,444 View My Garage	^This isn't horse shoes or hand grenades... First across the line is still first across the line.... You guys better get used to it.... __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

09-26-2008, 10:31 AM	#12
headpunter Not That sad..considering Drives: Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the part of washington the capital forgot about. Posts: 3,747 View My Garage	guys this cant be true, the auto has optimized shift points, i mean OPTIMIZED SHIFT POINTS. __________________ Stop Whinging

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09-26-2008, 09:45 AM	#3
Mblock66 Drives: 2005 Subaru Legacy GT Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 312	No idea, but I am glad this is finally resolved. It was amazing how many people jumped on the AT is faster bandwagon with information that had absolutely no merit. And it spread like WILDFIRE. I knew all along that this wasn't going to be the case when they actually start to test it. With more HP and TQ, less weight, and launch control the MT can't possibly be slower (with a good driver) But no one listened to reason, I am just glad there is a solid test out there and from the sound of it they may be able to squeeze out another tenth or two when they fix the brake issue MT looks like it will be a high 12's car. AT will be a low 13's car

09-26-2008, 10:14 AM	#6
linkwpc The punching cat Drives: '10 Camaro SS Black W/Hugger&W/IOI Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 4,048 View My Garage	Now that more like it! I really looking forward to buy my first NEW car with a manual

09-26-2008, 10:18 AM	#7
gladiatoro Drives: 1981 Z28 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kelowna B.C Canada Posts: 307	he said a couple of ticks slower for the auto which means (2) so the automatic should be 4.8 not 4.9 at it's quickest then

09-26-2008, 10:26 AM	#9
karr1008 Supercharging Drives: 20XX Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N. Alabama Posts: 178 View My Garage	Wow, 4.6 on the 0-60 mph on the manual with launch control. Impressive! I wonder what it would do after I install a magnacharger, headers and a less restrictive exhaust...low 4's I hope.