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Old 10-04-2013, 07:12 PM   #253
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Can you pm me a price for a permagrin package shipped to Hawaii 96818 please. Thanks.
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Old 10-05-2013, 09:31 AM   #254
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What other track cars have you guys had? What I find appealing about the 1LE is that it seems like a great combination of street/track, of course so does thenZL1.

I keep looking at the 1LE but can't talk myself into switching from my current car.
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:41 AM   #255
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What other track cars have you guys had? What I find appealing about the 1LE is that it seems like a great combination of street/track, of course so does thenZL1.

I keep looking at the 1LE but can't talk myself into switching from my current car.
How long have you been driving the Porsche on track?
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:53 AM   #256
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I'd get a perma grin package.. but funding does not allow it :(
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Old 10-05-2013, 12:38 PM   #257
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How long have you been driving the Porsche on track?
GT3 the last 2 years, 996TT for 2 years before that a Lotus Exige S for 2 years.
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Old 10-05-2013, 01:12 PM   #258
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GT3 the last 2 years, 996TT for 2 years before that a Lotus Exige S for 2 years.
Would this be a dedicated track car?
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Old 10-05-2013, 08:24 PM   #259
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Would this be a dedicated track car?
No, I'm also on a Chumpcar team so I would only track it a few weekends a year. That's why it is appealing to me, seems like a 1LE would be a good street/limited track car. Plus I love a V8 !
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Old 10-06-2013, 05:16 PM   #260
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No, I'm also on a Chumpcar team so I would only track it a few weekends a year. That's why it is appealing to me, seems like a 1LE would be a good street/limited track car. Plus I love a V8 !
Compared to what you have been driving, I think you'll find it feels heavy and has too much understeer. Compared to what you have been driving it will be a steal too

With some mods, a 1LE leaves a wide range of cars looking at Chevy tail lights. Here is what I would do with a 1LE.

1. Permagrin Package, 32mm rear sway, sub-frame and radius bushes.
2. Oil Cooler, a Fluidyne with -12 lines.
3. SRF Brake Fluid
4. Cobalt Friction Pads XR1 up front and XR3 in the rear.
5. Front Brake Ducts
6. Five Point Harness and a Hoop with a Removable Cross Bar

These six steps transform the 1LE from a very good daily driver / HPDE car to a very good daily driver and very good track car. If you want to run at the front of the pack we do just a bit more.

7. Heads, Cam Headers, we want 500 RWHP, but no more than 650.
8. Supercars and a handful of rear bushings.
9. AccuSump for some engine protection.
10. Differential Upgrade / Swap. We go to the ZL1 differential because it is stronger in case and in function. It will put power down in the tuns, better than the 1LE. It also is designed for a cooler, but you'll plumb your to a rear mounted cooler (no extra weight up front). We want the 1LE gears so that means we swap between the two units. There is a bit more involved, but you get the idea.

With these 10 upgrades, and driving skills to match the first event you should attend is your Porsche club track day . Let them over you Chevy... if they can get close enough.
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:15 PM   #261
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Old 10-06-2013, 08:41 PM   #262
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Some thing is wrong here. 200+ 1LE members on C5. We have only sold 52 Permagrin packages. There is a lot of work to do before the C5FV to get to be at 100% market penetration.

You do know that you start your runs with -2 seconds on the timer when you have installed a Permagrin package on your 1LE at the Justice Pete C5FV CamaroCross, don't you?
I don't track my car enough to justify the $1grand. But, it looks like a solid kit.
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Old 10-07-2013, 10:59 AM   #263
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Compared to what you have been driving, I think you'll find it feels heavy and has too much understeer. Compared to what you have been driving it will be a steal too

With some mods, a 1LE leaves a wide range of cars looking at Chevy tail lights. Here is what I would do with a 1LE.

1. Permagrin Package, 32mm rear sway, sub-frame and radius bushes.
2. Oil Cooler, a Fluidyne with -12 lines.
3. SRF Brake Fluid
4. Cobalt Friction Pads XR1 up front and XR3 in the rear.
5. Front Brake Ducts
6. Five Point Harness and a Hoop with a Removable Cross Bar

These six steps transform the 1LE from a very good daily driver / HPDE car to a very good daily driver and very good track car. If you want to run at the front of the pack we do just a bit more.

7. Heads and Cam, Headers, we want 500 RWHP, but no more than 650.
8. Supercars and a handful of rear bushings.
9. AccuSump for some engine protection.
10. Differential Upgrade / Swap. We go to the ZL1 differential because it is stronger in case and in function. It will put power down in the tuns, better than the 1LE. It also is designed for a cooler, but you'll plumb your to a rear mounted cooler (no extra weight up front). We want the 1LE gears so that means we swap between the two units. There is a bit more involved, but you get the idea.

With these 10 upgrades, and driving skills to match the first event you should attend is your Porsche club track day . Let them over you Chevy... if they can get close enough.
Thanks Pete!!

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Old 10-07-2013, 08:43 PM   #264
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The best part of tracking the 911 is durability but even the consumables get expensive. I'm considering signing up for Bondurant so I can get a 1LE out on the track.

So the 1LE with the 10 things you outlined - is it a better track car than the ZL1? How close will that put the 1LE to the cost of the ZL1?
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:58 PM   #265
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The best part of tracking the 911 is durability but even the consumables get expensive. I'm considering signing up for Bondurant so I can get a 1LE out on the track.

So the 1LE with the 10 things you outlined - is it a better track car than the ZL1? How close will that put the 1LE to the cost of the ZL1?
A 1LE with the 10 upgrades will walk all over a ZL1, a Z06 Vette, Porsches, $250,000 Pro Touring Cars and more. The L/28 is at worst, the fifth fastest road course car competing in the OPTIMA. You would be in the same performance envelope.




#2 on this list is a 1LE with heads, cam, headers, Pedders Permagrin, Supercars, 6 pot fronts and Cobalt Friction pads.

#4 is a race car driven by a professional.

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1LE plus mods is a bad axx automobile.
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:48 PM   #266
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How close will that put the 1LE to the cost of the ZL1?
My guess is about the same..

37500 for a 1SS 1LE and 15000 should cover mods with labor. If you turned the wrenches that price could be driven down by about a third.... IMO



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