LMR CAI vs Cold Air Induction Inc TEST with RESULTS!!

[themossman]

Originally Posted by brAnd7onX

Does anyone have an LMR intake that can share a dyno graph for us? Preferably stock vs the intake.

If you look in my build journal...I have several dynos, only one with the LMR intake...non however that are a 'true' before and after of just the CAI....

[firengnred]

I hope that guy had the LMR given to him for allowing this "test", otherwise he just wasted a bundle of money. This "test" appears to have been run unfairly biased towards the LMR advantage of being open topped since the hood was open and assuming (yes I know what happens when ASSuming) the CAI Inc. was left sealed.

Dude, whoever you are..............If you read this, go back and insist on running this again with the HOOD CLOSED and even if there is no clear winner then......demand your money back for the LMR. If the LMR still performs better, KUDOS to LMR and hopefully sales pick up.

[Rafsanjani]

The level of detail in the testing done by Jannetty speaks volumes to me. Running a dyno of some guys car that happened to be in the shop and agreed to take part in a "test" seems at best, unscientific.

Just sayin...

[8ty8 ls1]

Still waiting on stock vs. Lmr vs. Cai Inc graphs. I just really want to see the gain difference between the 2 intakes.

[franknbeans]

5-7 hp... really people, is it that big of a deal?

What I don't like about the LMR intake is the huge LMR on the intake and the funky looking filter. . . To me buying a CAI will be laid upon looks then performance.

[Rafsanjani]

Originally Posted by franknbeans

What I don't like about the LMR intake is the huge LMR on the intake and the funky looking filter. . . To me buying a CAI will be laid upon looks then performance.

I would have to agree that the CAI most certainly looks cleaner.

[firengnred]

5-7 hp... really people, is it that big of a deal?

For the amount of money that gets laid out for these.....YES.

[darenf02]

As well as the crankcase breather hose......not a huge deal BUT....

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Both Pictures of the Cold Air Inductions Shows the Mass Air Meter Was Unplugged this could definately be the Problem.

[MadMav]

Sitting back and gonna enjoy this one.

I have to say though, I have no favorites here as both systems are UGLY!!!!!!!!

Mav

[Eric-MPD1.com]

Not a fan of black plastic. The CAI IS QUALITY!

[darenf02]

The biggest problem I see is the "customer" drove in to your shop, engine at full operating temp THEN did the dyno. I'm sure you guys stood around for a few minutes, engine off, reading and analyzing the dyno numbers. After you spent 30 more minutes removing and installing your intake, probably while the car was STILL sitting on the dyno, THEN, with a much colder engine, made 3 pulls on the dyno.....hardly unbiased in my opinion. It seems someone is bitter about the performance numbers on an independent test to me.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news folks, but look at the basic principles of what we are accomplishing with a CAI. Nearly all of these systems are virtually identical in basic design (except for the direct flow Vararam and the New Era) so LOGIC will tell you there simply CAN NOT be a 10rwhp difference in the LMR and the CAI. No way. Not on this planet. After spending several years doing precise, scientific experiments in a lab as a student at a private university, I can assure you that fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants "experiments" without controls, strict parameters, and exact measurements of secondary factors WILL cause unreliable results that can be exponentially and simply Wrong--sometimes intentionally.

Other notes:
1. Your (LMR) tube simply slips through the hole in the air box (it appears from your pictures anyway), leaving a small air gap to suck in hot engine air. Amount? Probably not much. Affect? Probably not much.
2. CAI's air filter/tube is sealed with a rubber "gasket," cutting off hot engine air. Affect vs LMR? Probably not much...BUT attention to detail is the key here.
3. CAI's sealed box comes with insulation applied to the inside of the box to insulate the air from engine temperatures. Affect? Probably not too much...BUT again the point here is attention to detail.

My take is this: CAI's CAI is built with much greater thought, higher attention to detail, better quality materials, and simply Looks better. I'm sorry, but the LMR looks cheap and/or basically the same as all the others. For basically the same price, I'll take the Cold Air Induction's CAI, which, in fact, I did. Sorry. I suggest LMR take a look at all the other CAI's that look JUST LIKE IT as part of the reason it's sales have fallen, NOT the test done by Jannetty Racing. I hate to say this, but this thread you posted makes you look desperate and a bit juvenile. I expected MUCH more from a reputable company. I would delete the original post if I were you.....it's embarrassing.

[Rafsanjani]

Originally Posted by franknbeans

5-7 hp... really people, is it that big of a deal?

It's fun to get to the facts, whatever they may be!

[DarricSS]

Originally Posted by MadMav

Sitting back and gonna enjoy this one.

I have to say though, I have no favorites here as both systems are UGLY!!!!!!!!

Mav

I agree, looks are a big part of the purchase when dealing with such small HP gains...Just my opinion but the LMR looks like a baby elephant trunk to me...




Does not look aesthetically pleasing to me…but to each his own.

[Milk 1027]

I will never buy a car part based on what someone else tested.

I suggest the same to everyone. Do your own research.