L99 Cam advice

[WadeWilson]

Originally Posted by Padre

With experience, launching with a stall is great, with or without drag radials.

I've always been a "launch from idle" guy, and it works great for me (1.65 sixty with bolt-ons).

With more power (comes great responsibility... )... err... comes more throttle control. You can punch a stock car and no worries because it's within its limits, but when highly modded, it just takes some relearning, which isn't that big a deal.

Padre

It took me a little while to get used to how much throttle to give my car after my Whipple & cam install. Now I'm looking forward to the conversion and stall.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by brantley847

Yea... nothing beats being thrown into your chair for a good launch from idle... but I reaaaaally don't want to end up in the wall only 50 yards from the line. lol

After drag racing pro dragster and pro stock Harleys for years I can appreciate a good launch

[brantley847]

..well after crunching some numbers and looking for package deals, I think I will go with the conversion so if the day comes I want to go FI, I have a decent foundation. This is what I hope to complete within the next 2 months..

-LS3 conversion w/ custom comp cam. I like Ted's stuff, LG, Mike Norris, Lashway. I have a bunch of friends that went through Mike with their vettes and 4th gens. Really impressed with him... I really would like a cam that can keep me under the imaginary line of really needing a stall.
-Vmax Ported TB
-going to probably go 3.73
-Oil pump, most likely Melling
-The jury is still out on a stall. A lot of people have good advice on why it may not be necessary for a DD.
-Trans cooler if I go with the stall.

..should be a good build. I don't care much for numbers, but we should be flirting with mid-high 400s.

[CFD]

I had a chance to drive mine a bit today. It is definately louder with the cam but more impotantly, with this particular cam I would say a converter change is necessary. Off idle driveability is poor making it a chore to drive in traffic.

[brantley847]

Originally Posted by CFD

I had a chance to drive mine a bit today. It is definately louder with the cam but more impotantly, with this particular cam I would say a converter change is necessary. Off idle driveability is poor making it a chore to drive in traffic.

damn.... well I guess if I stall I might as well go with a bit more aggressive cam.

I was just a bit concerned as this will be my first time operating a vehicle with an agressive cam..not to mention stalled. Many seem to think it is hassle for a DD, but I would much rather deal with a loose feeling than struggling to maintain the chore of dealing without it.

I wish these damn things were about a grand.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by brantley847

damn.... well I guess if I stall I might as well go with a bit more aggressive cam.

I was just a bit concerned as this will be my first time operating a vehicle with an agressive cam..not to mention stalled. Many seem to think it is hassle for a DD, but I would much rather deal with a loose feeling than struggling to maintain the chore of dealing without it.

I wish these damn things were about a grand.

If you go with a stall then DEFINITELY go bigger on the cam... this is another nice advantage of the auto as they drive nicely with a big cam...

[Rockit_z28]

I did the 3200 Vig with my conversion and love every minute of it. Unlike Padre, I tend to launch a little more aggresively usually around 1500-1700. 20" Nittos are not a big help with traction.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by Rockit_z28

I did the 3200 Vig with my conversion and love every minute of it. Unlike Padre, I tend to launch a little more aggresively usually around 1500-1700. 20" Nittos are not a big help with traction.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't launching from idle with a stall considered more aggessive than 1500-1700..

[brantley847]

Originally Posted by Rockit_z28

I did the 3200 Vig with my conversion and love every minute of it. Unlike Padre, I tend to launch a little more aggresively usually around 1500-1700. 20" Nittos are not a big help with traction.

I gladly admit the stall would be ideal on the strip... you still enjoy it as a DD? One user explained the stall as biting or grabbing once it gets to its RPM range.. that "bite" is what I don't know if I care for.. like many of you have stated (all with great opinions) it is something you have to feel or experience. Maybe some stalls don't grab quite the same way, but I know the more we modify the more we will sacrifice drive ability. However, if there is anyway I can maintain a certain level of "smooth" driving, I would like to have it. Maybe that means a mild cam, focusing on low-end power without the stall.

I suppose I need to keep researching and speaking with tuners.

[Padre]

Originally Posted by brantley847

I was just a bit concerned as this will be my first time operating a vehicle with an agressive cam..not to mention stalled. Many seem to think it is hassle for a DD, but I would much rather deal with a loose feeling than struggling to maintain the chore of dealing without it.

Oh no worries there. It took me all of a day to relearn driving my car with a centrifugal blower and 620rwhp! You'll love it so much, you'll catch on quick.

Padre

[mlee]

Don't think the "bite" analogy is anywhere close... Stall will just rev a bit higher but you don't get an on/off type bite when it hits the stall. It's pretty smooth. Get the stall first and drive for a while before you get the cam. I did that for 6 months and it really didn't affect driveability much at all... just different RPM speeds and smooth as ever. it won't lock until 60 or 65 depending on where your tuner sets it and then it's exactly like stock.

[NateSS]

3200 and mine is a daily driver. it drives just fine.

Like mike, i got the converter about 3 months before the cam just so I could get used to it. Sure, its different, but you get used to it.

[edog]

Originally Posted by Ivan @ Southwest Speed

FYI,

We offer the LG G6X3 with the LS3 Conversion Kit.

Now you can have what everybody else wants in your L99!!!

Ivan

Ivan, what is the cost for the kit?

[brantley847]

One thing that drives me nuts is that some conversion kits cost you 700-800, but occasionally you find one that may not have the oil pump and it goes around 300-400. The damn oil pump only cost 150.