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KevinHoward8509 · 12-28-2020, 07:57 AM

I am redoing my car this winter and am contemplating what setup to go with.

Going forged 416 with an F1A should make 900 to the tires without an issue.

My issue is what rear end setup should I go with?

between the strange dana setup and the ford 9 inch I am hesitant on which to choose.

Whats everyone's opinion on ride quality and traction. the Ford is $400 more so price is not a factor.

I want my car to hook as good as possible so going with a conversion setup like a 9 inch how will that work with parts and i have heard some issues in the past with clearance issues with exhaust? another concern is if and when something lets go EVERYTHING goes with it. where if i blow the center section out of the strange it only takes out the center section.

Will there be much of a ride quality difference in everyone's opinion? the car will be 99% street as i dont really have any intentions on taking it to the track more than once.

im assuming the 9 inch will be stronger and take more of a beating but with the strange being a direct factory bolt on i am assuming i can just call BMR and get whatever traction type parts i want to get

Chris49066SS · 12-28-2020, 09:13 AM

Do you mean a 9" center and keeping the IRS or going to a solid axle? If you were tracking it more on prepped surfaces I'd say the 9" but with 900 rwhp and street surfaces I'd say the Dana. Its a pretty stout piece. I'd even do the ZL1 rear for your intended purpose, and honestly, hooking on the street will be tough anyway at that power level. Basically ZL1 rearend or Dana if you really want peace of mind. And I've been there with these questions. I have talked with the guys at GPI about this very thing, and we both have similar HP goals. They suggested against a solid axle up to 1,100 rwhp and based on intended usage.

11-Camaro · 12-28-2020, 09:17 AM

Why not a ZL1 6L90 A6 transmission? I am similar in WHP now ranging from 800 - 1k (depending on boost setting I go with). Also using a Circle-D 3600 converter (or any stall REALLY helps the tracking piece).

Chris49066SS · 12-28-2020, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 11-Camaro

Why not a ZL1 6L90 A6 transmission? I am similar in WHP now ranging from 800 - 1k (depending on boost setting I go with). Also using a Circle-D 3600 converter (or any stall REALLY helps the tracking piece).

You can build boost with the turbo setup and leave on the trans brake if you go TH400, only shift twice, and have yourself a bulletproof tranny all in one.

KevinHoward8509 · 12-28-2020, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris49066SS

Do you mean a 9" center and keeping the IRS or going to a solid axle? If you were tracking it more on prepped surfaces I'd say the 9" but with 900 rwhp and street surfaces I'd say the Dana. Its a pretty stout piece. I'd even do the ZL1 rear for your intended purpose, and honestly, hooking on the street will be tough anyway at that power level. Basically ZL1 rearend or Dana if you really want peace of mind. And I've been there with these questions. I have talked with the guys at GPI about this very thing, and we both have similar HP goals. They suggested against a solid axle up to 1,100 rwhp and based on intended usage.

i was thinking about going straight axle instead of just center section. i beat the living shit out of my car so wanted to build it where i didnt have to worry about it all that often haha.

The strange and the straight axle 9" were what i was looking to go with.

KevinHoward8509 · 12-28-2020, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 11-Camaro

Why not a ZL1 6L90 A6 transmission? I am similar in WHP now ranging from 800 - 1k (depending on boost setting I go with). Also using a Circle-D 3600 converter (or any stall REALLY helps the tracking piece).

my car is a manual

Chris49066SS · 12-28-2020, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinHoward8509

i was thinking about going straight axle instead of just center section. i beat the living shit out of my car so wanted to build it where i didnt have to worry about it all that often haha.

The strange and the straight axle 9" were what i was looking to go with.

Gotcha. Yeah I really bet you'd be fine with the Dana on 900rwhp and non-prepped surfaces. Ditching the IRS is going to require a load more modifications to accomodate it. I would only do solid if you are doing more of a drag build where you see the track more often. In the end though its all up you, and it would leave even more room to grow once 900 rwhp isn't enough. (Is anything ever enough?) Good luck

12-28-2020, 07:57 AM	#1
KevinHoward8509 Drives: 2014 camaro ss 1LE Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Kalamazoo Michigan Posts: 209	ford 9 inch or a strange setup I am redoing my car this winter and am contemplating what setup to go with. Going forged 416 with an F1A should make 900 to the tires without an issue. My issue is what rear end setup should I go with? between the strange dana setup and the ford 9 inch I am hesitant on which to choose. Whats everyone's opinion on ride quality and traction. the Ford is $400 more so price is not a factor. I want my car to hook as good as possible so going with a conversion setup like a 9 inch how will that work with parts and i have heard some issues in the past with clearance issues with exhaust? another concern is if and when something lets go EVERYTHING goes with it. where if i blow the center section out of the strange it only takes out the center section. Will there be much of a ride quality difference in everyone's opinion? the car will be 99% street as i dont really have any intentions on taking it to the track more than once. im assuming the 9 inch will be stronger and take more of a beating but with the strange being a direct factory bolt on i am assuming i can just call BMR and get whatever traction type parts i want to get __________________ 2014 SS 1LE summit white RWHP 1032 Modifications are as follows: Engine, forged and stroked 416 CI, Procharger F1A-94 with upgraded race intercooler and big red blow off valve, HP Tuner, AEM Wideband with Gauge, TSP Supercharger Camshaft 224/240 .615/.615 112 +3, Brian Tooley Dual Valve Springs, Brian Tooley Chromoly Pushrods and ported heads. Fore innovations twin 450 pumps on E-85 Brian Tooley Titanium Retainers, GM 3 Bolt Conversion, New GM Oil Pump, Injector Dynamics ID 1700 Injectors, Kooks 1 7/8" Long Tube Headers ,

12-28-2020, 09:13 AM	#2
Chris49066SS Drives: 2010 SS L99 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,634	Do you mean a 9" center and keeping the IRS or going to a solid axle? If you were tracking it more on prepped surfaces I'd say the 9" but with 900 rwhp and street surfaces I'd say the Dana. Its a pretty stout piece. I'd even do the ZL1 rear for your intended purpose, and honestly, hooking on the street will be tough anyway at that power level. Basically ZL1 rearend or Dana if you really want peace of mind. And I've been there with these questions. I have talked with the guys at GPI about this very thing, and we both have similar HP goals. They suggested against a solid axle up to 1,100 rwhp and based on intended usage. __________________ Previous PB:11.079 @ 122.99mph.. New setup time: TBD The 11.079 pass: https://youtu.be/pz27Zq54t_E Build thread - www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=555371

12-28-2020, 09:17 AM	#3
11-Camaro Drives: 11 Camaro SS, Ninja 1000, Santa Fe Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Dallas Posts: 49	Why not a ZL1 6L90 A6 transmission? I am similar in WHP now ranging from 800 - 1k (depending on boost setting I go with). Also using a Circle-D 3600 converter (or any stall REALLY helps the tracking piece). __________________ 11 Camaro TT SS. 14 1LE motor, full coilover, CNC ported LSA heads, stainless valves, dual springs, Comp 224 cam, Melling oil pump, AGP Garrett GTX30r's, 1400cc injectors, full 3" Magnaflow, dual Walbro 450lph fuel pump, ZL1 6L90 trans, trans cooler, Circle-D 3600, 3.91:1 Eaton Truetrac, line lock, Lingenfelter 2 step. Current boost - e85 814 RWHP.