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Old 11-18-2018, 11:52 AM   #1
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Arrow 5th Generation V6 vs. 6th Generation 4-Cyl

Hello Everyone,


I haven't been here in a while and this may have come up in other threads, but I wanted to ask a question about something. I am not condoning racing at all by asking this, it's just more of a performance question.


The 5th Generation V6 Camaros have an approximate curb weight of 3,728-lbs (after Google checking it) and they started with 312-hp (which is what I have in my 2011 1LT).


The 6th Generation 4-Cyl Camaros have an approximate curb weight of 3,339-lbs, and they have a Turbo which gives them 275-hp.


My question is this. The 6th Gen weighs about 400-lbs less (389 to be exact) than the 5th Gen, but also has 37 less hp (if you compare 6th Gen 4-Cyl vs. 5th Gen V6). Would 37 less HP be compensated for by moving a vehicle that's 389 pounds lighter, to a point where it may be able to get to a 1/4 mile finish line first?


To people that don't feel that a Camaro has to have a V8 and that's that, 275-hp does sound like enough to get the vehicle out of it's own way, but I am just wondering how a 6th Gen 4-Cyl would perform if I was used to a 5th Gen V6, considering the less HP...but also...the less weight.


I wouldn't even question that a 6th Gen V6 would out perform a 5th Gen V6 because the 6th Gen has 23 More HP (335 vs. 312)...AND...weighs less. I would just like to hear some performance comments about a 6th Gen 4-Cyl vs. a 5th Gen V6.


Thank you.
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Old 11-18-2018, 11:54 PM   #2
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While the 5th and 6th gen both use the same 3.27 final drive, the 6th gen has slightly smaller tires, giving it a bit of acceleration advantage.
Then, the 10-speed on the 6th gen has more aggressive gearing then the 6-speed.
And a turbo, while it might have some lag, once it gets rolling, will not slow down on an upshift. You will get a kick in the ass when 2nd gear hits.
But, just like a V8 vs. V6, the farther you go, the farther the more powerful engine will pull away.
Another consideration is that accessories, like AC, will pull a higher percentage of power from a 4 than it will from a 6. I had a Sentra SE-R SpecV, which was very quick. Until I turned on the AC.

Up to you if you like the better acceleration of the 6 or the better mileage of the 4.
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Old 11-19-2018, 11:18 AM   #3
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The Gen6 (2016+) 2.0 Turbo is faster than the Gen5 V6 in both 0-60 and 1/4 mile due to the lighter weight and better gearing. Around a 1/2 second or so stock to stock.
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Old 11-19-2018, 12:19 PM   #4
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Big 4 cylinders with a turbo can be pretty potent, vs NA V6 or whatever. Typically smallish turbos give a broad torque wave from low rpm. Peak power is less important in this case. Direct injected turbo 4 bangers are especially capable vs old school 4cyl turbo.

Then the fact that you can turn up the boost and usually get 40% power boost.

I've thought about the 4cyl Gen6 as a different path to take, but it's hard for me think of a turbo 4 in a muscle car as a viable option - for some reason it has to be in a smaller car, but that's just how my brain has been trained.
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Old 11-19-2018, 01:15 PM   #5
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Big 4 cylinders with a turbo can be pretty potent, vs NA V6 or whatever. Typically smallish turbos give a broad torque wave from low rpm. Peak power is less important in this case. Direct injected turbo 4 bangers are especially capable vs old school 4cyl turbo.

Then the fact that you can turn up the boost and usually get 40% power boost.

I've thought about the 4cyl Gen6 as a different path to take, but it's hard for me think of a turbo 4 in a muscle car as a viable option - for some reason it has to be in a smaller car, but that's just how my brain has been trained.
There was a guy on You Tube who had a Gen6 2.0T with a tune that was getting really good power and numbers. But he also later blew up his engine so maybe a little over on the extra boost.
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Old 11-19-2018, 01:26 PM   #6
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Even tho I own a V8 Camaro...the ls is known to be a solid motor. I have zero faith in any domestic 4 cyl motors....turbo or not. The imports are the only 4cyl motor I would own.
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Even tho I own a V8 Camaro...the ls is known to be a solid motor. I have zero faith in any domestic 4 cyl motors....turbo or not. The imports are the only 4cyl motor I would own.
I had high hopes for the Olds Quad 4 of the early 90’s. But, yeah I agree. Too many US duds in that segment.
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I had high hopes for the Olds Quad 4 of the early 90’s. But, yeah I agree. Too many US duds in that segment.
Terrible stuff for sure. Not all but damn near most.
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:54 AM   #9
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had a loaner 4 cylinder turbo while my v6 was in the shop for TPMS issues.it was pretty quick off a stoplight,but the engine sounded like it belonged in a tractor.factor in the premium fuel recommended and the fact that im not normally racing on the street,i went with the 6.no turbo,intercooler,etc. to replace later in the ownership cycle.
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Old 11-24-2018, 02:44 AM   #10
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The turbo 4 runs about the same times as the 5th gen V6 unless it's a 2LS with the higher rear gearing. The 6th gen V6 runs about .5 secs quicker. Many magazine tests were getting 13.7-13.8 compared to Chevy's optimistic 13.5 secs.

Lighter curb weight, smaller diameter tires and more aggressive gearing on the auto.

Also, the 5th gen V6 had the WOT restriction until 40 mph. I don't know if the 6th gen has the same thing on the V6.
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Big 4 cylinders with a turbo can be pretty potent, vs NA V6 or whatever. Typically smallish turbos give a broad torque wave from low rpm. Peak power is less important in this case. Direct injected turbo 4 bangers are especially capable vs old school 4cyl turbo.

Then the fact that you can turn up the boost and usually get 40% power boost.

I've thought about the 4cyl Gen6 as a different path to take, but it's hard for me think of a turbo 4 in a muscle car as a viable option - for some reason it has to be in a smaller car, but that's just how my brain has been trained.
It isnt a muscle car!
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